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| PG didn't exceed Ingram's eFG until he was 26... but yeah according to the usual suspects it's impossible for him to improve at 21. |
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No one posting about Magic saying Ingram had a successful surgery and is healthy now? Not sure how healthy he is now, but it was good to hear.
Not to mention, Magic was really high on BI today. |
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VicXLakers
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Take it to the hole young man!  |
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SocalDevin
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| epak wrote: | No one posting about Magic saying Ingram had a successful surgery and is healthy now? Not sure how healthy he is now, but it was good to hear.
Not to mention, Magic was really high on BI today. |
Yea he pretty much acknowledged that the young guys weren't the problem, in spite of the narrative that the national media tried to promote. |
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| SocalDevin wrote: | | Practice wrote: | | After today I'm really interested in seeing how Vogel plans on using Ingram. |
On offense he prioritizes FT's, layups, and corner three's.. in that order.. Ingram should be okay. |
I know. It was a positive post about what Ingram could do next season with Vogel instead of Luke lol |
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SocalDevin
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| Posted: Mon May 20, 2019 5:02 pm Post subject: |
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| Practice wrote: | | SocalDevin wrote: | | Practice wrote: | | After today I'm really interested in seeing how Vogel plans on using Ingram. |
On offense he prioritizes FT's, layups, and corner three's.. in that order.. Ingram should be okay. |
I know. It was a positive post about what Ingram could do next season with Vogel instead of Luke lol |
Understood boss, I didn't read anything negative into your post. |
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Luminous8
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| Posted: Mon May 20, 2019 5:03 pm Post subject: |
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| SocalDevin wrote: | | Practice wrote: | | SocalDevin wrote: | | Practice wrote: | | After today I'm really interested in seeing how Vogel plans on using Ingram. |
On offense he prioritizes FT's, layups, and corner three's.. in that order.. Ingram should be okay. |
I know. It was a positive post about what Ingram could do next season with Vogel instead of Luke lol |
Understood boss, I didn't read anything negative into your post. |
What did I miss regarding Vogel/BI? |
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| Luminous8 wrote: | | SocalDevin wrote: | | Practice wrote: | | SocalDevin wrote: | | Practice wrote: | | After today I'm really interested in seeing how Vogel plans on using Ingram. |
On offense he prioritizes FT's, layups, and corner three's.. in that order.. Ingram should be okay. |
I know. It was a positive post about what Ingram could do next season with Vogel instead of Luke lol |
Understood boss, I didn't read anything negative into your post. |
What did I miss regarding Vogel/BI? |
Vogel describing how he wants to play implies that Ingram will be used and developed differently for the better in addition to making his strengths a priority. |
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SocalDevin
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We want FT's 1st. Layups at the rim 2nd. Corner threes 3rd. Angle 3's 4th and then the mid range jumpshot. That's how we're going to prioritize our shot selection.
Vogel Quote.. |
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VicXLakers
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| Posted: Mon May 20, 2019 5:27 pm Post subject: |
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| SocalDevin wrote: | We want FT's 1st. Layups at the rim 2nd. Corner threes 3rd. Angle 3's 4th and then the mid range jumpshot. That's how we're going to prioritize our shot selection.
Vogel Quote.. |
Like I said...take it to the hole young man! |
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He has the be the very best BI. Not KD not MJ... he just has to be the best player HE is. That’s all. I guarantee a successful career for him if he can do that. Be the first of your kind, BI. A lot of us believe in you, young man.
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SocalDevin
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| VicXLakers wrote: | | SocalDevin wrote: | We want FT's 1st. Layups at the rim 2nd. Corner threes 3rd. Angle 3's 4th and then the mid range jumpshot. That's how we're going to prioritize our shot selection.
Vogel Quote.. |
Like I said...take it to the hole young man! |
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Frank Vogel seems to be the right coach for him, because he values the efficient shot over the three pointer. BI was efficient in the post and at getting to the line, though Luke wanted him to operate from the perimeter. I think a lot of our success will be predicated on how they utilize BI next season. If they can employ an inside-out approach, then our 3 pt success should go up as well.
I hope the days of us trying to replicate GS are over. |
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| SocalDevin wrote: | We want FT's 1st. Layups at the rim 2nd. Corner threes 3rd. Angle 3's 4th and then the mid range jumpshot. That's how we're going to prioritize our shot selection.
Vogel Quote.. |
Could be a problem for Brandon.. Freethrows and 3s...
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Ingram is a jack of all trades. I don't worry about him fitting in with what Vogel wants to do, considering he's our best perimeter defender with length. Vogel was the guy who helped make PG13 a better perimeter player (along with Danny Granger's mentoring).
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| kikanga wrote: | | Ingram is a jack of all trades. I don't worry about him fitting in with what Vogel wants to do, considering he's our best perimeter defender with length. Vogel was the guy who helped make PG13 a better perimeter player (along with Danny Granger's mentoring). |
yeah...no worries with BI...just wasting your time if you do |
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SocalDevin
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| LKA wrote: | | SocalDevin wrote: | We want FT's 1st. Layups at the rim 2nd. Corner threes 3rd. Angle 3's 4th and then the mid range jumpshot. That's how we're going to prioritize our shot selection.
Vogel Quote.. |
Could be a problem for Brandon.. Freethrows and 3s... |
Dude, at some point you have to be able to set the bias aside and see things objectively. You find a way to be negative on this site 95% of the time on all matters. I would say that percentage is higher on matters involving Ingram.
Explain why you would even say that when Ingram is excellent at driving? He's also shown improvement on corner three's. He's also shown improvement at the FT line.. Was shooting 75% before the injury. |
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| LKA wrote: | | SocalDevin wrote: | We want FT's 1st. Layups at the rim 2nd. Corner threes 3rd. Angle 3's 4th and then the mid range jumpshot. That's how we're going to prioritize our shot selection.
Vogel Quote.. |
Could be a problem for Brandon.. Freethrows and 3s... |
Or could be a career changer. Teach him to stop passing up open 3s for contested midrange jumpers. He’s already a very good finisher. I’m more excited about Vogel getting him to buy in on the defensive end though. Hopefully he plays for the team and not a contract this year. |
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LKA
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| Posted: Tue May 21, 2019 1:43 pm Post subject: |
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| SocalDevin wrote: | | LKA wrote: | | SocalDevin wrote: | We want FT's 1st. Layups at the rim 2nd. Corner threes 3rd. Angle 3's 4th and then the mid range jumpshot. That's how we're going to prioritize our shot selection.
Vogel Quote.. |
Could be a problem for Brandon.. Freethrows and 3s... |
Dude, at some point you have to be able to set the bias aside and see things objectively. You find a way to be negative on this site 95% of the time on all matters. I would say that percentage is higher on matters involving Ingram.
Explain why you would even say that when Ingram is excellent at driving? He's also shown improvement on corner three's. He's also shown improvement at the FT line.. Was shooting 75% before the injury. |
95%?? Cmon now. I am only critical when it comes to certain matters. With the current circus state that the Lakers are in I'd say it's justified to be a bit more critical with anything involving the team right now.
Also I didn't say anything about driving. I said freethrows and 3s. Until he shows a season of shooting 80+% from the line, it's a warranted criticism imo. We also are well aware that Brandon has a slow shooting motion, which makes it difficult for him to get off clean looks from the short corners. And he's already not a good shooter as it is. I see reasons for concern.
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| Posted: Tue May 21, 2019 1:44 pm Post subject: |
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| BigGameHames wrote: | | LKA wrote: | | SocalDevin wrote: | We want FT's 1st. Layups at the rim 2nd. Corner threes 3rd. Angle 3's 4th and then the mid range jumpshot. That's how we're going to prioritize our shot selection.
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Could be a problem for Brandon.. Freethrows and 3s... |
Or could be a career changer. Teach him to stop passing up open 3s for contested midrange jumpers. He’s already a very good finisher. I’m more excited about Vogel getting him to buy in on the defensive end though. Hopefully he plays for the team and not a contract this year. |
Good point, another concern of mine.
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| LKA wrote: | | BigGameHames wrote: | | LKA wrote: | | SocalDevin wrote: | We want FT's 1st. Layups at the rim 2nd. Corner threes 3rd. Angle 3's 4th and then the mid range jumpshot. That's how we're going to prioritize our shot selection.
Vogel Quote.. |
Could be a problem for Brandon.. Freethrows and 3s... |
Or could be a career changer. Teach him to stop passing up open 3s for contested midrange jumpers. He’s already a very good finisher. I’m more excited about Vogel getting him to buy in on the defensive end though. Hopefully he plays for the team and not a contract this year. |
Good point, another concern of mine. |
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SocalDevin
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| LKA wrote: | | SocalDevin wrote: | | LKA wrote: | | SocalDevin wrote: | We want FT's 1st. Layups at the rim 2nd. Corner threes 3rd. Angle 3's 4th and then the mid range jumpshot. That's how we're going to prioritize our shot selection.
Vogel Quote.. |
Could be a problem for Brandon.. Freethrows and 3s... |
Dude, at some point you have to be able to set the bias aside and see things objectively. You find a way to be negative on this site 95% of the time on all matters. I would say that percentage is higher on matters involving Ingram.
Explain why you would even say that when Ingram is excellent at driving? He's also shown improvement on corner three's. He's also shown improvement at the FT line.. Was shooting 75% before the injury. |
95%?? Cmon now. I am only critical when it comes to certain matters. With the current circus state that the Lakers are in I'd say it's justified to be a bit more critical with anything involving the team right now.
Also I didn't say anything about driving. I said freethrows and 3s. Until he shows a season of shooting 80+% from the line, it's a warranted criticism imo. We also are well aware that Brandon has a slow shooting motion, which makes it difficult for him to get off clean looks from the short corners. And he's already not a good shooter as it is. I see reasons for concern. |
Okay.. be concerned boss.  |
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| VicXLakers wrote: | | LKA wrote: | | BigGameHames wrote: | | LKA wrote: | | SocalDevin wrote: | We want FT's 1st. Layups at the rim 2nd. Corner threes 3rd. Angle 3's 4th and then the mid range jumpshot. That's how we're going to prioritize our shot selection.
Vogel Quote.. |
Could be a problem for Brandon.. Freethrows and 3s... |
Or could be a career changer. Teach him to stop passing up open 3s for contested midrange jumpers. He’s already a very good finisher. I’m more excited about Vogel getting him to buy in on the defensive end though. Hopefully he plays for the team and not a contract this year. |
Good point, another concern of mine. |
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Not worried about BI, he probably has the best mentality compared to the rest of the players drafted in the dark era. JR is a close second  |
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| Posted: Tue May 21, 2019 1:48 pm Post subject: |
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| LKA wrote: | | SocalDevin wrote: | | LKA wrote: | | SocalDevin wrote: | We want FT's 1st. Layups at the rim 2nd. Corner threes 3rd. Angle 3's 4th and then the mid range jumpshot. That's how we're going to prioritize our shot selection.
Vogel Quote.. |
Could be a problem for Brandon.. Freethrows and 3s... |
Dude, at some point you have to be able to set the bias aside and see things objectively. You find a way to be negative on this site 95% of the time on all matters. I would say that percentage is higher on matters involving Ingram.
Explain why you would even say that when Ingram is excellent at driving? He's also shown improvement on corner three's. He's also shown improvement at the FT line.. Was shooting 75% before the injury. |
95%?? Cmon now. I am only critical when it comes to certain matters. With the current circus state that the Lakers are in I'd say it's justified to be a bit more critical with anything involving the team right now.
Also I didn't say anything about driving. I said freethrows and 3s. Until he shows a season of shooting 80+% from the line, it's a warranted criticism imo. We also are well aware that Brandon has a slow shooting motion, which makes it difficult for him to get off clean looks from the short corners. And he's already not a good shooter as it is. I see reasons for concern. |
80+% is tough to do. I’d be happy with 75-80%. |
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| bandiger wrote: | | VicXLakers wrote: | | LKA wrote: | | BigGameHames wrote: | | LKA wrote: | | SocalDevin wrote: | We want FT's 1st. Layups at the rim 2nd. Corner threes 3rd. Angle 3's 4th and then the mid range jumpshot. That's how we're going to prioritize our shot selection.
Vogel Quote.. |
Could be a problem for Brandon.. Freethrows and 3s... |
Or could be a career changer. Teach him to stop passing up open 3s for contested midrange jumpers. He’s already a very good finisher. I’m more excited about Vogel getting him to buy in on the defensive end though. Hopefully he plays for the team and not a contract this year. |
Good point, another concern of mine. |
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Not worried about BI, he probably has the best mentality compared to the rest of the players drafted in the dark era. JR is a close second |
Jeez we value very different mentalities |
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