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PostPosted: Sun Jul 09, 2017 6:44 pm    Post subject:

#StayInYoLane wrote:
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I know you guys will probably hate me for this but does it seem like Brandon likes isoing a bit too much? Even last season I thought to myself on more than a few occasions, "make the simple play".


If you're not a good catch/shooter , you're probably going to try to ISO to get points...


Exactly what I was thinking. Also with BI he doesn't usually pound the rock. He'll get isolated and make a quick move.


And you still need elite ISO players in the game today. When defenses tighten up and take away all other options, it's essential to have a guy who can create his own shot. Given that this is summer league, I was fine with watching him showcase and develop his one-on-one scoring ability.
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TheBlackMamba wrote:
#StayInYoLane wrote:
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I know you guys will probably hate me for this but does it seem like Brandon likes isoing a bit too much? Even last season I thought to myself on more than a few occasions, "make the simple play".


If you're not a good catch/shooter , you're probably going to try to ISO to get points...


Exactly what I was thinking. Also with BI he doesn't usually pound the rock. He'll get isolated and make a quick move.


And you still need elite ISO players in the game today. When defenses tighten up and take away all other options, it's essential to have a guy who can create his own shot. Given that this is summer league, I was fine with watching him showcase and develop his one-on-one scoring ability.


Yup. That IMO is what makes GS so deadly. They are a ball movement first team but have some phenomenal ISO players who can score when needed in Curry and Durant.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 09, 2017 6:55 pm    Post subject:

TheBlackMamba wrote:
#StayInYoLane wrote:
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I know you guys will probably hate me for this but does it seem like Brandon likes isoing a bit too much? Even last season I thought to myself on more than a few occasions, "make the simple play".


If you're not a good catch/shooter , you're probably going to try to ISO to get points...


Exactly what I was thinking. Also with BI he doesn't usually pound the rock. He'll get isolated and make a quick move.


And you still need elite ISO players in the game today. When defenses tighten up and take away all other options, it's essential to have a guy who can create his own shot. Given that this is summer league, I was fine with watching him showcase and develop his one-on-one scoring ability.


I guess in some cases that's true. but Ingram doesn't pass up wide open shots to iso.. And if he is iso'ing it's the coaches encouraging him to do it. So his shot has nothing to do with him iso'ing.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 09, 2017 7:00 pm    Post subject:

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defense wrote:
I know you guys will probably hate me for this but does it seem like Brandon likes isoing a bit too much? Even last season I thought to myself on more than a few occasions, "make the simple play".

Yeah I thought the same thing. But I think it'll be invaluable as he learns to harness that into a more egalitarian style of play.


It's a combination of Brandon being more comfortable in the triple threat than spot up, and Lonzo not being a pick and roll guard. Even in Chino Hills their half court go to was Gelo iso'ing in the mid post. Still, when the regular season starts I'd probably rather see an Ingram ISO than a Randle ISO or a Clarkson pick and shoot. Hope they run more set plays in the half court too.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 09, 2017 9:37 pm    Post subject:

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Sixers gonna regret not taking him with the #1 pick


I don't think they'll regret picking Simmons over Ingram.

They'll regret picking Okafor over Porzingis.

I think if the Sixers had drafted Porzingis, the next move they should have made was a future 1st in 2018 and the late 1st in 2017 to us for D'Angelo Russell if they were still keen on trading him. If the Lakers bit on that, then the 76ers lineup this season would be

D'Angelo Russell
Markelle Fultz
Ben Simmons
Kristaps Porzingis
Joel Embiid

Which would be frightening.

but fortunately the Sixers didn't draft Porzingis


lol D'Angelo does not have as much value as Porzingis.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 09, 2017 10:01 pm    Post subject:

misterrunon wrote:
MJST wrote:
governator wrote:
Sixers gonna regret not taking him with the #1 pick


I don't think they'll regret picking Simmons over Ingram.

They'll regret picking Okafor over Porzingis.

I think if the Sixers had drafted Porzingis, the next move they should have made was a future 1st in 2018 and the late 1st in 2017 to us for D'Angelo Russell if they were still keen on trading him. If the Lakers bit on that, then the 76ers lineup this season would be

D'Angelo Russell
Markelle Fultz
Ben Simmons
Kristaps Porzingis
Joel Embiid

Which would be frightening.

but fortunately the Sixers didn't draft Porzingis


lol D'Angelo does not have as much value as Porzingis.


On LG he does.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 09, 2017 10:09 pm    Post subject:

^ so true...
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 09, 2017 10:18 pm    Post subject:

SocalDevin wrote:
misterrunon wrote:
MJST wrote:
governator wrote:
Sixers gonna regret not taking him with the #1 pick


I don't think they'll regret picking Simmons over Ingram.

They'll regret picking Okafor over Porzingis.

I think if the Sixers had drafted Porzingis, the next move they should have made was a future 1st in 2018 and the late 1st in 2017 to us for D'Angelo Russell if they were still keen on trading him. If the Lakers bit on that, then the 76ers lineup this season would be

D'Angelo Russell
Markelle Fultz
Ben Simmons
Kristaps Porzingis
Joel Embiid

Which would be frightening.

but fortunately the Sixers didn't draft Porzingis


lol D'Angelo does not have as much value as Porzingis.


On LG he does.

I'm failing to see where anyone said Russell had as much value as porzingis.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 09, 2017 10:21 pm    Post subject:

AY2043 wrote:
SocalDevin wrote:
misterrunon wrote:
MJST wrote:
governator wrote:
Sixers gonna regret not taking him with the #1 pick


I don't think they'll regret picking Simmons over Ingram.

They'll regret picking Okafor over Porzingis.

I think if the Sixers had drafted Porzingis, the next move they should have made was a future 1st in 2018 and the late 1st in 2017 to us for D'Angelo Russell if they were still keen on trading him. If the Lakers bit on that, then the 76ers lineup this season would be

D'Angelo Russell
Markelle Fultz
Ben Simmons
Kristaps Porzingis
Joel Embiid

Which would be frightening.

but fortunately the Sixers didn't draft Porzingis


lol D'Angelo does not have as much value as Porzingis.


On LG he does.

I'm failing to see where anyone said Russell had as much value as porzingis.


My mistake, I thought he proposed a Zingis for DLO trade.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 10, 2017 10:12 am    Post subject:

Did BI grew 1-2 inches?

https://clutchpoints.com/brandon-ingram-maybe-ill-grow-to-kds-height/

He's probably 6-10 or 6-11 now.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 10, 2017 12:08 pm    Post subject:

MJST wrote:
governator wrote:
Sixers gonna regret not taking him with the #1 pick


I don't think they'll regret picking Simmons over Ingram.

They'll regret picking Okafor over Porzingis.

I think if the Sixers had drafted Porzingis, the next move they should have made was a future 1st in 2018 and the late 1st in 2017 to us for D'Angelo Russell if they were still keen on trading him. If the Lakers bit on that, then the 76ers lineup this season would be

D'Angelo Russell
Markelle Fultz
Ben Simmons
Kristaps Porzingis
Joel Embiid

Which would be frightening.

but fortunately the Sixers didn't draft Porzingis


Well only in an alternate universe where you don't factor in Kristaps giving the 6ers more wins which may mean they never get Simmons or Fultz.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 10, 2017 1:00 pm    Post subject:

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Ingram, whos 19, has been hearing from LAL trainers that he looks like hes grown an inch or two. Said: Maybe Ill grow to KDs height.


Yup- He will end up being 7 feet tall in shoes when he is done growing. Arms keep growing too.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 10, 2017 1:02 pm    Post subject:

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Ingram, whos 19, has been hearing from LAL trainers that he looks like hes grown an inch or two. Said: Maybe Ill grow to KDs height.

Would it be too hard to break out a tape measure?
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 10, 2017 1:07 pm    Post subject:

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Ingram, whos 19, has been hearing from LAL trainers that he looks like hes grown an inch or two. Said: Maybe Ill grow to KDs height.

Would it be too hard to break out a tape measure?


he doesn't want to know...not weighing himself either
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 10, 2017 2:59 pm    Post subject:

ringfinger wrote:
TheBlackMamba wrote:
#StayInYoLane wrote:
KeepItRealOrElse wrote:
defense wrote:
I know you guys will probably hate me for this but does it seem like Brandon likes isoing a bit too much? Even last season I thought to myself on more than a few occasions, "make the simple play".


If you're not a good catch/shooter , you're probably going to try to ISO to get points...


Exactly what I was thinking. Also with BI he doesn't usually pound the rock. He'll get isolated and make a quick move.


And you still need elite ISO players in the game today. When defenses tighten up and take away all other options, it's essential to have a guy who can create his own shot. Given that this is summer league, I was fine with watching him showcase and develop his one-on-one scoring ability.


Yup. That IMO is what makes GS so deadly. They are a ball movement first team but have some phenomenal ISO players who can score when needed in Curry and Durant.


That is how Cleveland beat them two years ago. Durant wasn't there and Curry was hobbled, so they went over 2 minutes at the end of the game without scoring.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 10, 2017 3:13 pm    Post subject:

VicXLakers wrote:
greenfrog wrote:
LakerEric wrote:
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Ingram, whos 19, has been hearing from LAL trainers that he looks like hes grown an inch or two. Said: Maybe Ill grow to KDs height.

Would it be too hard to break out a tape measure?


he doesn't want to know...not weighing himself either

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socalsp3 wrote:
Did BI grew 1-2 inches?

https://clutchpoints.com/brandon-ingram-maybe-ill-grow-to-kds-height/

He's probably 6-10 or 6-11 now.


Hopefully he reaches KD's height in terms of skill level too
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2017 5:12 pm    Post subject:

http://us.blastingnews.com/sports/2017/07/brandon-ingram-praises-teammate-lonzo-ball-001842653.html

all good between B.I. and Zo so far, which is simply awesome
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2017 6:31 pm    Post subject:

Andre2K wrote:
socalsp3 wrote:
Did BI grew 1-2 inches?

https://clutchpoints.com/brandon-ingram-maybe-ill-grow-to-kds-height/

He's probably 6-10 or 6-11 now.


Hopefully he reaches KD's height in terms of skill level too


He need to weight train and bulk himself up to at least KD's frame. I dont really concern/ hype about his length all that much...
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 14, 2017 8:01 am    Post subject:

I guess he's not playing sg next year
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 14, 2017 3:33 pm    Post subject:

statyin wrote:
Andre2K wrote:
socalsp3 wrote:
Did BI grew 1-2 inches?

https://clutchpoints.com/brandon-ingram-maybe-ill-grow-to-kds-height/

He's probably 6-10 or 6-11 now.


Hopefully he reaches KD's height in terms of skill level too


He need to weight train and bulk himself up to at least KD's frame. I dont really concern/ hype about his length all that much...


His skill level in combination with his length is what separates him from other wing players
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 14, 2017 3:44 pm    Post subject:

MJST wrote:
governator wrote:
Sixers gonna regret not taking him with the #1 pick


I don't think they'll regret picking Simmons over Ingram.

They'll regret picking Okafor over Porzingis.

I think if the Sixers had drafted Porzingis, the next move they should have made was a future 1st in 2018 and the late 1st in 2017 to us for D'Angelo Russell if they were still keen on trading him. If the Lakers bit on that, then the 76ers lineup this season would be

D'Angelo Russell
Markelle Fultz
Ben Simmons
Kristaps Porzingis
Joel Embiid

Which would be frightening.

but fortunately the Sixers didn't draft Porzingis


DLo was our starting PG for the past three years and we were no where near being frightening. But once you replaced Dlo with a PG whos competent, the Lakers became very, very frightening. I cant wait for pre-season to see Ball, Ingram and Kuz running the break and see how teams decide to pick their poison to defend that.
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lakersfever714 wrote:
MJST wrote:
governator wrote:
Sixers gonna regret not taking him with the #1 pick


I don't think they'll regret picking Simmons over Ingram.

They'll regret picking Okafor over Porzingis.

I think if the Sixers had drafted Porzingis, the next move they should have made was a future 1st in 2018 and the late 1st in 2017 to us for D'Angelo Russell if they were still keen on trading him. If the Lakers bit on that, then the 76ers lineup this season would be

D'Angelo Russell
Markelle Fultz
Ben Simmons
Kristaps Porzingis
Joel Embiid

Which would be frightening.

but fortunately the Sixers didn't draft Porzingis


DLo was our starting PG for the past three years and we were no where near being frightening. But once you replaced Dlo with a PG whos competent, the Lakers became very, very frightening. I cant wait for pre-season to see Ball, Ingram and Kuz running the break and see how teams decide to pick their poison to defend that.


Russell was only our starting point for two seasons.

One in the Kobe retirement tour where he never really had the reigns unless Kobe was sitting and his numbers were solid.

And last year was the first and only he had the reigns and we made an 7 win improvement.
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lakersfever714 wrote:
MJST wrote:
governator wrote:
Sixers gonna regret not taking him with the #1 pick


I don't think they'll regret picking Simmons over Ingram.

They'll regret picking Okafor over Porzingis.

I think if the Sixers had drafted Porzingis, the next move they should have made was a future 1st in 2018 and the late 1st in 2017 to us for D'Angelo Russell if they were still keen on trading him. If the Lakers bit on that, then the 76ers lineup this season would be

D'Angelo Russell
Markelle Fultz
Ben Simmons
Kristaps Porzingis
Joel Embiid

Which would be frightening.

but fortunately the Sixers didn't draft Porzingis


DLo was our starting PG for the past three years and we were no where near being frightening. But once you replaced Dlo with a PG whos competent, the Lakers became very, very frightening. I cant wait for pre-season to see Ball, Ingram and Kuz running the break and see how teams decide to pick their poison to defend that.


3 years? He's entering his 3rd year but let's not let facts get in the way.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 15, 2017 8:54 am    Post subject:

If the Lakers continue advancing in the tournament, they'll end up playing 3 games in 3 consecutive nights (the SL schedule is wack). Might as well activate Ingram for one of them, because with Hart, Dozier, Nwaba all out, it's going to be tough to find a minute distribution that doesn't involve Ball playing 35 minutes. It's pretty much game over if Ingram is playing anyways.
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