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PostPosted: Wed Oct 11, 2017 3:10 pm    Post subject:

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Give this 20 year old kid a break. Can we be more positive. I saw improvement from his last 4 pre season games. He still took bad shot in the end but for the most part he took what the defense gave him. Hope for a more relax Ingram moving forward.


If the Lakers drafted Brandon Knight one year out of one year at Kentucky and he had an okay rookie season, and then Lakers drafted Damian Lillard the next off-season and he showed in pre-season that he was currently better in every way than Knight, would you start the better player in Lillard despite the fact he's 2 years older, or would you stay with Brandon Knight and hope he eventually figures it out?


I feel like I get dumber every time I read one of your posts...


Allow me to rid you of the burden of doing so for a while then.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 11, 2017 3:25 pm    Post subject:

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Give this 20 year old kid a break. Can we be more positive. I saw improvement from his last 4 pre season games. He still took bad shot in the end but for the most part he took what the defense gave him. Hope for a more relax Ingram moving forward.


If the Lakers drafted Brandon Knight one year out of one year at Kentucky and he had an okay rookie season, and then Lakers drafted Damian Lillard the next off-season and he showed in pre-season that he was currently better in every way than Knight, would you start the better player in Lillard despite the fact he's 2 years older, or would you stay with Brandon Knight and hope he eventually figures it out?


Lost you MJST. If you are talking about Kuz starting in front of Ingram, I have no problem. Kuz is 22 and is more polished from what I see. I was more disappointed at the Lakers fan being so down on a 20 year old kid. I just want to see improvement from him this year and it does not have to be at the beginning of the year.
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From Emplay's latest article:

In the meantime, Ingram has his teammates' support. "We're by no means worried. We know what he can do and what he's capable of," Brook Lopez said. "We've seen it in practice and summer league. We have the utmost, ultimate confidence in [Ingram]."

and:

Walton hopes to guide Ingram through a difficult time. "I think he wants to be great so badly, and he's worked so hard that he wants to show everyone how good he is," Walton said. "He's trying to do too much."

So just chill folks. The kid is pressing. He will relax some and start putting up the numbers. His teammates practice with him and know what he can do. They are not giving up on him and neither should we.


he's not talking to the right people

http://www.lakersnation.com/lakers-rumors-are-expectations-for-brandon-ingram-too-high-this-season/2017/10/10/

“One team source acknowledged that expectations may have been set too high for Ingram—that even 14 or 15 points per game seemed optimistic in the short term.”


Except that lakersnation article you posted is in reference to Emplay's article LOL SMH. Try reading first bro.


wonder what his response will be lol
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 11, 2017 4:10 pm    Post subject:

Seeing these posts preaching that Ingram gets benched depress me He is our best prospect no doubt about it. He is the one guy who could possibly give you 25ppg 4 years down the road (He will be 23..a kid).His struggles are from trying to pull new moves with a new mechanics in-game. It will take him a few games to get confortable with himself. I wish he would focus more on defense (denying the ball on the best wing) why not develop him on that end? KCP wont be here. Also let him run point for the second unit. I expect 15 ppg for the season.


the future is:

PG.Ball
SG.PG13
SF.Ingram
PF.Kuzma
C.Cousins / Rsndle

i would try to get cousins, or
If rsndle can expand his range and learn to defend the paint i would try him at center. It is all about effort, look at holford for the celtics, or love for the cavs)
Also the whole team csn help out we have very active playerd. He is not a guy you want running an ISo or posting up. Play D, Rebound (specially offensive), Transition and open jumpers.

If he doesn’t then bye bye randle, Lopez stays.


But stop with the kuzma stuff, he id a PF and Ingram can play SG or SF.

Randle is not a PF on offense.. not in todays nba
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 11, 2017 4:18 pm    Post subject:

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Seeing these posts preaching that Ingram gets benched depress me He is our best prospect no doubt about it. He is the one guy who could possibly give you 25ppg 4 years down the road (He will be 23..a kid).His struggles are from trying to pull new moves with a new mechanics in-game. It will take him a few games to get confortable with himself. I wish he would focus more on defense (denying the ball on the best wing) why not develop him on that end? KCP wont be here. Also let him run point for the second unit. I expect 15 ppg for the season.


the future is:

PG.Ball
SG.PG13
SF.Ingram
PF.Kuzma
C.Cousins / Rsndle

i would try to get cousins, or
If rsndle can expand his range and learn to defend the paint i would try him at center. It is all about effort, look at holford for the celtics, or love for the cavs)
Also the whole team csn help out we have very active playerd. He is not a guy you want running an ISo or posting up. Play D, Rebound (specially offensive), Transition and open jumpers.

If he doesn’t then bye bye randle, Lopez stays.


But stop with the kuzma stuff, he id a PF and Ingram can play SG or SF.

Randle is not a PF on offense.. not in todays nba


I respect your optimism on Ingram's scoring but I never see more than 22ppg. It's only one basket away but crossing or meeting the threshold of 25 seems insane.

Ironically, Kuz may be the our current young guy who can score big one day.

Also, I hope PG actually considers leaving OKC at this point.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 11, 2017 4:40 pm    Post subject:

People assume he is going to get stronger but I just don't see his body type filling out very much. He gets knocked off his route so to speak too easily.
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watchME wrote:
Seeing these posts preaching that Ingram gets benched depress me He is our best prospect no doubt about it. He is the one guy who could possibly give you 25ppg 4 years down the road (He will be 23..a kid).His struggles are from trying to pull new moves with a new mechanics in-game. It will take him a few games to get confortable with himself. I wish he would focus more on defense (denying the ball on the best wing) why not develop him on that end? KCP wont be here. Also let him run point for the second unit. I expect 15 ppg for the season.


the future is:

PG.Ball
SG.PG13
SF.Ingram
PF.Kuzma
C.Cousins / Rsndle

i would try to get cousins, or
If rsndle can expand his range and learn to defend the paint i would try him at center. It is all about effort, look at holford for the celtics, or love for the cavs)
Also the whole team csn help out we have very active playerd. He is not a guy you want running an ISo or posting up. Play D, Rebound (specially offensive), Transition and open jumpers.

If he doesn’t then bye bye randle, Lopez stays.


But stop with the kuzma stuff, he id a PF and Ingram can play SG or SF.

Randle is not a PF on offense.. not in todays nba


I respect your optimism on Ingram's scoring but I never see more than 22ppg. It's only one basket away but crossing or meeting the threshold of 25 seems insane.

Ironically, Kuz may be the our current young guy who can score big one day.

Also, I hope PG actually considers leaving OKC at this point.

PG13 has never averaged more than 23ppg in any season as the primary option in Indy, and he's the upper bounds for Ingram as a scorer, imo. Ingram just hasn't shown the ability to put up enough good shots per game so far in his career to project him to be a 25ppg scorer unless he plays 40 mpg.

Kuzma is comparatively effortless, and buckets just seem to find him. Predicting Kuz to average 25ppg seems out there, but barring stratospheric improvement from Ingram, I don't see Brandon ever being as effortless as Kuzma is at getting up good shots.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 11, 2017 5:06 pm    Post subject:

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2019 wrote:
watchME wrote:
Seeing these posts preaching that Ingram gets benched depress me He is our best prospect no doubt about it. He is the one guy who could possibly give you 25ppg 4 years down the road (He will be 23..a kid).His struggles are from trying to pull new moves with a new mechanics in-game. It will take him a few games to get confortable with himself. I wish he would focus more on defense (denying the ball on the best wing) why not develop him on that end? KCP wont be here. Also let him run point for the second unit. I expect 15 ppg for the season.


the future is:

PG.Ball
SG.PG13
SF.Ingram
PF.Kuzma
C.Cousins / Rsndle

i would try to get cousins, or
If rsndle can expand his range and learn to defend the paint i would try him at center. It is all about effort, look at holford for the celtics, or love for the cavs)
Also the whole team csn help out we have very active playerd. He is not a guy you want running an ISo or posting up. Play D, Rebound (specially offensive), Transition and open jumpers.

If he doesn’t then bye bye randle, Lopez stays.


But stop with the kuzma stuff, he id a PF and Ingram can play SG or SF.

Randle is not a PF on offense.. not in todays nba


I respect your optimism on Ingram's scoring but I never see more than 22ppg. It's only one basket away but crossing or meeting the threshold of 25 seems insane.

Ironically, Kuz may be the our current young guy who can score big one day.

Also, I hope PG actually considers leaving OKC at this point.

PG13 has never averaged more than 23ppg in any season as the primary option in Indy, and he's the upper bounds for Ingram as a scorer, imo. Ingram just hasn't shown the ability to put up enough good shots per game so far in his career to project him to be a 25ppg scorer unless he plays 40 mpg.

Kuzma is comparatively effortless, and buckets just seem to find him. Predicting Kuz to average 25ppg seems out there, but barring stratospheric improvement from Ingram, I don't see Brandon ever being as effortless as Kuzma is at getting up good shots.


Perfectly said, BVH.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 11, 2017 5:20 pm    Post subject:

^ Danke, tox!

Hope you're doing well. Even with BI's early struggles, I'm more optimistic for this season than I have been since 2013. That probably means only 31 wins or thereabouts with some ugly losses here and there, but it should be fun to see Ball develop while Lopez hopefully plays at a near All-Star level, which should help Brandon and the other young guys settle in over the year.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 11, 2017 5:28 pm    Post subject:

I'm glad Magic said what he said. I took it more of a compliment/motivation in regards to Brandon's potential than a literal 20 ppg quota with repercussions if he doesn't reach it. Look how it lit a fire under BI, would you rather have management say "yeah he's kinda good but I don't think he's ready for the big leagues yet".

I remember a certain young overly-ambitious SG who had the balls to airball 4 strait times in the biggest game of his life at that time. BI has shows that he can learn and improve, these struggles in some experimental preseason games will only make him that much better.
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I'm glad Magic said what he said. I took it more of a compliment/motivation in regards to Brandon's potential than a literal 20 ppg quota with repercussions if he doesn't reach it. Look how it lit a fire under BI, would you rather have management say "yeah he's kinda good but I don't think he's ready for the big leagues yet".

I remember a certain young overly-ambitious SG who had the balls to airball 4 strait times in the biggest game of his life at that time. BI has shows that he can learn and improve, these struggles in some experimental preseason games will only make him that much better.


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2019 wrote:
watchME wrote:
Seeing these posts preaching that Ingram gets benched depress me He is our best prospect no doubt about it. He is the one guy who could possibly give you 25ppg 4 years down the road (He will be 23..a kid).His struggles are from trying to pull new moves with a new mechanics in-game. It will take him a few games to get confortable with himself. I wish he would focus more on defense (denying the ball on the best wing) why not develop him on that end? KCP wont be here. Also let him run point for the second unit. I expect 15 ppg for the season.


the future is:

PG.Ball
SG.PG13
SF.Ingram
PF.Kuzma
C.Cousins / Rsndle

i would try to get cousins, or
If rsndle can expand his range and learn to defend the paint i would try him at center. It is all about effort, look at holford for the celtics, or love for the cavs)
Also the whole team csn help out we have very active playerd. He is not a guy you want running an ISo or posting up. Play D, Rebound (specially offensive), Transition and open jumpers.

If he doesn’t then bye bye randle, Lopez stays.


But stop with the kuzma stuff, he id a PF and Ingram can play SG or SF.

Randle is not a PF on offense.. not in todays nba


I respect your optimism on Ingram's scoring but I never see more than 22ppg. It's only one basket away but crossing or meeting the threshold of 25 seems insane.

Ironically, Kuz may be the our current young guy who can score big one day.

Also, I hope PG actually considers leaving OKC at this point.

PG13 has never averaged more than 23ppg in any season as the primary option in Indy, and he's the upper bounds for Ingram as a scorer, imo. Ingram just hasn't shown the ability to put up enough good shots per game so far in his career to project him to be a 25ppg scorer unless he plays 40 mpg.

Kuzma is comparatively effortless, and buckets just seem to find him. Predicting Kuz to average 25ppg seems out there, but barring stratospheric improvement from Ingram, I don't see Brandon ever being as effortless as Kuzma is at getting up good shots.
Way too often PG13 settles for long jumpers, he also doesnt have the mamba mindset.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 11, 2017 5:49 pm    Post subject:

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trablos wrote:
I'm glad Magic said what he said. I took it more of a compliment/motivation in regards to Brandon's potential than a literal 20 ppg quota with repercussions if he doesn't reach it. Look how it lit a fire under BI, would you rather have management say "yeah he's kinda good but I don't think he's ready for the big leagues yet".

I remember a certain young overly-ambitious SG who had the balls to airball 4 strait times in the biggest game of his life at that time. BI has shows that he can learn and improve, these struggles in some experimental preseason games will only make him that much better.




That certain young SG was FAAAAAARRR more skilled and athletically gifted as a senior in high school than BI is right now. Not a good comparison. You can have a "Mamba Mentality" all you want, but if you don't have the ungodly skill to back it up like the OG had, it's absolutely useless.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 11, 2017 5:52 pm    Post subject:

watchME wrote:
Baron Von Humongous wrote:
2019 wrote:
watchME wrote:
Seeing these posts preaching that Ingram gets benched depress me He is our best prospect no doubt about it. He is the one guy who could possibly give you 25ppg 4 years down the road (He will be 23..a kid).His struggles are from trying to pull new moves with a new mechanics in-game. It will take him a few games to get confortable with himself. I wish he would focus more on defense (denying the ball on the best wing) why not develop him on that end? KCP wont be here. Also let him run point for the second unit. I expect 15 ppg for the season.


the future is:

PG.Ball
SG.PG13
SF.Ingram
PF.Kuzma
C.Cousins / Rsndle

i would try to get cousins, or
If rsndle can expand his range and learn to defend the paint i would try him at center. It is all about effort, look at holford for the celtics, or love for the cavs)
Also the whole team csn help out we have very active playerd. He is not a guy you want running an ISo or posting up. Play D, Rebound (specially offensive), Transition and open jumpers.

If he doesn’t then bye bye randle, Lopez stays.


But stop with the kuzma stuff, he id a PF and Ingram can play SG or SF.

Randle is not a PF on offense.. not in todays nba


I respect your optimism on Ingram's scoring but I never see more than 22ppg. It's only one basket away but crossing or meeting the threshold of 25 seems insane.

Ironically, Kuz may be the our current young guy who can score big one day.

Also, I hope PG actually considers leaving OKC at this point.

PG13 has never averaged more than 23ppg in any season as the primary option in Indy, and he's the upper bounds for Ingram as a scorer, imo. Ingram just hasn't shown the ability to put up enough good shots per game so far in his career to project him to be a 25ppg scorer unless he plays 40 mpg.

Kuzma is comparatively effortless, and buckets just seem to find him. Predicting Kuz to average 25ppg seems out there, but barring stratospheric improvement from Ingram, I don't see Brandon ever being as effortless as Kuzma is at getting up good shots.
Way too often PG13 settles for long jumpers, he also doesnt have the mamba mindset.

But Kobe was the king of settling for long, often contested jumpers. And I've seen PG13 in the playoffs enough to know he's got a killer mentality, he just doesn't have #8's athletic gifts or #24's refined skillset (which no player has had).

I haven't seen a "Mamba mentality" from BI outside of one summer league game, and the success of his game is going to be dependent on being able to take and make long jumpers, imo.
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Kuzma is comparatively effortless, and buckets just seem to find him. Predicting Kuz to average 25ppg seems out there, but barring stratospheric improvement from Ingram, I don't see Brandon ever being as effortless as Kuzma is at getting up good shots.


Was thinking about this while watching Malik Monk tonight. Both guys are just threats all over the floor, and it just seems that they're both confident that every location is their shot and they can get the shot off comfortably.

This isn't like, if I'm BI, I need to be at the rim, or set up a guy in the post, or get to the elbow. Seems really limited

Both Monk and Kuzma look like they have similar approaches to scoring. Always with the shot fakes and jab steps wherever they are on the floor, and have enough shot volume/accuracy to prove themselves as an offensive threat in those areas.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 11, 2017 6:42 pm    Post subject:

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Give this 20 year old kid a break. Can we be more positive. I saw improvement from his last 4 pre season games. He still took bad shot in the end but for the most part he took what the defense gave him. Hope for a more relax Ingram moving forward.


If the Lakers drafted Brandon Knight one year out of one year at Kentucky and he had an okay rookie season, and then Lakers drafted Damian Lillard the next off-season and he showed in pre-season that he was currently better in every way than Knight, would you start the better player in Lillard despite the fact he's 2 years older, or would you stay with Brandon Knight and hope he eventually figures it out?


I feel like I get dumber every time I read one of your posts...


I see no lies in his post.
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I'm glad Magic said what he said. I took it more of a compliment/motivation in regards to Brandon's potential than a literal 20 ppg quota with repercussions if he doesn't reach it. Look how it lit a fire under BI, would you rather have management say "yeah he's kinda good but I don't think he's ready for the big leagues yet".

I remember a certain young overly-ambitious SG who had the balls to airball 4 strait times in the biggest game of his life at that time. BI has shows that he can learn and improve, these struggles in some experimental preseason games will only make him that much better.




Lmao that SG was more skilled and athletic at 17 than Ingram at 20. Let's not be ridiculous.
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KBH wrote:
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trablos wrote:
I'm glad Magic said what he said. I took it more of a compliment/motivation in regards to Brandon's potential than a literal 20 ppg quota with repercussions if he doesn't reach it. Look how it lit a fire under BI, would you rather have management say "yeah he's kinda good but I don't think he's ready for the big leagues yet".

I remember a certain young overly-ambitious SG who had the balls to airball 4 strait times in the biggest game of his life at that time. BI has shows that he can learn and improve, these struggles in some experimental preseason games will only make him that much better.




Lmao that SG was more skilled and athletic at 17 than Ingram at 20. Let's not be ridiculous.


Just one of the reasons why it was grossly unfair to expect 20ppg this season.

I don't even like the idea that there are fans that expect him to be "Kobe-like" and just take over scoring like that.
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I guess after Dlo got traded everyone had to start hating on someone...sucks that it’s BI. Was hoping everyone would just turn on Randle instead
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I guess after Dlo got traded everyone had to start hating on someone...sucks that it’s BI. Was hoping everyone would just turn on Randle instead


Not that they didn't try. Why would you hope for them to turn on anyone anyway.
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fiendishoc wrote:
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I guess after Dlo got traded everyone had to start hating on someone...sucks that it’s BI. Was hoping everyone would just turn on Randle instead


Not that they didn't try. Why would you hope for them to turn on anyone anyway.


There are certain expectations from no 2 picks. No one is expecting Ingram to light it up but what he has shown is what you would expect from a late second rounder let alone a second pick overall.

I mean if he didn’t look like a lamb among wolves when he plays people would be a lot more forgiving.

Regarding talent what is talent? Kuzma at age 22 is where he is because of talent surely. Was he working as hard as Ingram age 20, probably not yet here we are. Is kuzma more talented as a result to be where he is right now?
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Mike@LG wrote:
KBH wrote:
Inspector Gadget wrote:
trablos wrote:
I'm glad Magic said what he said. I took it more of a compliment/motivation in regards to Brandon's potential than a literal 20 ppg quota with repercussions if he doesn't reach it. Look how it lit a fire under BI, would you rather have management say "yeah he's kinda good but I don't think he's ready for the big leagues yet".

I remember a certain young overly-ambitious SG who had the balls to airball 4 strait times in the biggest game of his life at that time. BI has shows that he can learn and improve, these struggles in some experimental preseason games will only make him that much better.




Lmao that SG was more skilled and athletic at 17 than Ingram at 20. Let's not be ridiculous.


Just one of the reasons why it was grossly unfair to expect 20ppg this season.

I don't even like the idea that there are fans that expect him to be "Kobe-like" and just take over scoring like that.


Because Magic said so and magic is a basketball genius
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Kuzma is comparatively effortless, and buckets just seem to find him. Predicting Kuz to average 25ppg seems out there, but barring stratospheric improvement from Ingram, I don't see Brandon ever being as effortless as Kuzma is at getting up good shots.


Was thinking about this while watching Malik Monk tonight. Both guys are just threats all over the floor, and it just seems that they're both confident that every location is their shot and they can get the shot off comfortably.

This isn't like, if I'm BI, I need to be at the rim, or set up a guy in the post, or get to the elbow. Seems really limited

Both Monk and Kuzma look like they have similar approaches to scoring. Always with the shot fakes and jab steps wherever they are on the floor, and have enough shot volume/accuracy to prove themselves as an offensive threat in those areas.

As GT has posted many times, volume is such a key indicator of future scoring potential in young guys, and Monk and Kuzma find ways to get a volume of good shots up all over the court with skill and confidence.

Conversely, Ingram's scoring looks like a struggle more often than not, and he lacks a variety of shots as you note. Hopefully he gets there, but it's going to take a few more years of really hard work - a guy like Derozan is a positive example of someone who efforted his way into being a skilled, diverse scorer over time, so it can be done.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 11, 2017 9:22 pm    Post subject:

If you're hating on Ingram at this point in his career, you're foolish.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 11, 2017 9:38 pm    Post subject:

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So it's pretty damn obvious now that Magic's expectations he put on BI before the season and all the hype has hindered his game tremendously so far. Luke needs to reel him back in and tell him to just play within the flow of the offense and make the smart plays. He's not a good ISO scorer right now. The kid has great court vision, he should be utilizing that more and do less off the dribble 1 on 1 plays. He just too weak right now to be taking dudes off the dribble consistently.



Doubt that's gonna happen. Luke last night was giving him credit and saying he liked how he played in the 4th last night. It's obvious they aren't gonna actually punish Ingram for bad play and are going to coddle and force him to try to be "the guy". Brandon hasn't had fun since the pre-season started.


Which would be the right way to develop him. Punishing him for bad play would not do him or the Lakers any good. It’s still preseason, our squad hasn’t been in full health. Guys going in and out of the lineup, it’s inevitable that Brandon will eventually get better, let him continue to get his reps and learn from his mistakes.
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