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PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 6:24 pm    Post subject:

I think BI has the most weight on his shoulders this off season.

He made good strides from year 1 to year 2, but this is a crucial year.

I know he came into the league young, but at some point he has to put it together ...year 3 is usually the deciding year for stars.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 6:28 pm    Post subject:

Lakerz113 wrote:
I think BI has the most weight on his shoulders this off season.

He made good strides from year 1 to year 2, but this is a crucial year.

I know he came into the league young, but at some point he has to put it together ...year 3 is usually the deciding year for stars.



I don't think he's in the "needs to put it together" category, he just needs to continue to improve like has been since his rookie season.

He started off way behind the curve, but once we realized how far behind he started he didn't slow down. He keeps improving like this and we're looking at a 20 point guy next season
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 6:57 pm    Post subject:

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Lakerz113 wrote:
I think BI has the most weight on his shoulders this off season.

He made good strides from year 1 to year 2, but this is a crucial year.

I know he came into the league young, but at some point he has to put it together ...year 3 is usually the deciding year for stars.



I don't think he's in the "needs to put it together" category, he just needs to continue to improve like has been since his rookie season.

He started off way behind the curve, but once we realized how far behind he started he didn't slow down. He keeps improving like this and we're looking at a 20 point guy next season


thats fair ..but i wont be the fan in year 6 holding out hope saying wait till he bulks up.

If hes going to be a star he should show glimpses of stardom next season.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:04 pm    Post subject:

Lakerz113 wrote:
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Lakerz113 wrote:
I think BI has the most weight on his shoulders this off season.

He made good strides from year 1 to year 2, but this is a crucial year.

I know he came into the league young, but at some point he has to put it together ...year 3 is usually the deciding year for stars.



I don't think he's in the "needs to put it together" category, he just needs to continue to improve like has been since his rookie season.

He started off way behind the curve, but once we realized how far behind he started he didn't slow down. He keeps improving like this and we're looking at a 20 point guy next season


thats fair ..but i wont be the fan in year 6 holding out hope saying wait till he bulks up.

If hes going to be a star he should show glimpses of stardom next season.


Dipo showed no signs of stardom until year 5.. and Ingram is a late bloomer. I want to see what he looks like in year 4..year 3 might not show many signs , he's got a long way to go
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:07 pm    Post subject:

Lakerz113 wrote:
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I think BI has the most weight on his shoulders this off season.

He made good strides from year 1 to year 2, but this is a crucial year.

I know he came into the league young, but at some point he has to put it together ...year 3 is usually the deciding year for stars.



I don't think he's in the "needs to put it together" category, he just needs to continue to improve like has been since his rookie season.

He started off way behind the curve, but once we realized how far behind he started he didn't slow down. He keeps improving like this and we're looking at a 20 point guy next season


thats fair ..but i wont be the fan in year 6 holding out hope saying wait till he bulks up.

If hes going to be a star he should show glimpses of stardom next season.


I mean if we're still waiting in year 6 then he probably stopped improving like he has been at some point.

But at the same time, if we're still waiting in year 6 then he's probably not a Laker.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:10 pm    Post subject:

So BI showed no glimpses of stardom this year? Really?

Gotta love the analysis of folks who watch the games with their eyes closed.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:13 pm    Post subject:

Iím very proud of Ingramís progression as a shooter. His 3 point shooting largely increased and became much better as a catch and shoot player to go along with his iso mid range.

Admittedly after the end of last season and the first 10 or so games of this season, I was really skeptical of Ingramís fit on this team. Tended to drive constantly with not much success, shot long mid ranges on a not so good percentage, etc. But thatís improved a lot.

Iím expecting that BIG step for him next season. Regardless what moves happen this offseason, I expect him being stronger and more efficient at the free throw line. Improves those two factors and then the rest falls into place as an all star in this league.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:14 pm    Post subject:

Judah wrote:
So BI showed no glimpses of stardom this year? Really?

Gotta love the analysis of folks who watch the games with their eyes closed.


oh shut up..he had some awesome moments, but at this point i would put the adds at 50-50 he becomes an all star.

I just hold him to a high standard considering he was a #2 pick

Im just saying by year three you can usually tell if a player is going to be a role player or actually turn into the star you hoped when you drafted them 2nd overall.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:15 pm    Post subject:

Judah wrote:
So BI showed no glimpses of stardom this year? Really?

Gotta love the analysis of folks who watch the games with their eyes closed.


I don't think he did, doesn't mean I don't expect him to get there.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 8:39 pm    Post subject:

he needs to stay healthy at first. He needs to attempt at least 4 threes
per game.and he needs to be a 20 pts player at year 3. he is getting there i think
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 9:05 pm    Post subject:

I think people are really underrating how much growth BI showed this season in only his 2nd year. He's going to be an elite wing in this league once he puts on some grown man weight. Like BI, Giannis and KD both entered the league at 19. Here are their first 3 seasons in the NBA:

Giannis Antetokopoompolo
Code:

 G  MP   PTS REB AST STL BLK  FG%  3P% 3PA eFG%  FT% FTA TOV
77 24.6  6.8 4.4 1.9 0.8 0.8 .414 .347 1.5 .463 .683 2.6 1.6
81 31.4 12.7 6.7 2.6 0.9 1.0 .491 .159 0.5 .496 .741 4.3 2.1
80 35.3 16.9 7.7 4.3 1.2 1.4 .506 .257 1.4 .520 .724 5.1 2.6


Kevin Durant
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 G  MP   PTS REB AST STL BLK  FG%  3P% 3PA eFG%  FT%  FTA TOV
80 34.6 20.3 4.4 2.4 1.0 0.9 .430 .288 2.6 .451 .873  5.6 2.9
74 39.0 25.3 6.5 2.8 1.3 0.7 .476 .422 3.1 .510 .863  7.1 3.0
82 39.5 30.1 7.6 2.8 1.4 1.0 .476 .365 4.3 .514 .900 10.2 3.3


Brandon Ingram
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 G  MP   PTS REB AST STL BLK  FG%  3P% 3PA eFG%  FT% FTA TOV
79 28.8  9.4 4.0 2.1 0.6 0.5 .402 .294 2.4 .442 .621 2.7 1.5
59 33.5 16.1 5.3 3.9 0.8 0.7 .470 .390 1.8 .497 .681 4.8 2.5
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 9:19 pm    Post subject:

Ziggy wrote:
I think people are really underrating how much growth BI showed this season in only his 2nd year. He's going to be an elite wing in this league once he puts on some grown man weight. Like BI, Giannis and KD both entered the league at 19. Here are their first 3 seasons in the NBA:

Giannis Antetokopoompolo
Code:

 G  MP   PTS REB AST STL BLK  FG%  3P% 3PA eFG%  FT% FTA TOV
77 24.6  6.8 4.4 1.9 0.8 0.8 .414 .347 1.5 .463 .683 2.6 1.6
81 31.4 12.7 6.7 2.6 0.9 1.0 .491 .159 0.5 .496 .741 4.3 2.1
80 35.3 16.9 7.7 4.3 1.2 1.4 .506 .257 1.4 .520 .724 5.1 2.6


Kevin Durant
Code:

 G  MP   PTS REB AST STL BLK  FG%  3P% 3PA eFG%  FT%  FTA TOV
80 34.6 20.3 4.4 2.4 1.0 0.9 .430 .288 2.6 .451 .873  5.6 2.9
74 39.0 25.3 6.5 2.8 1.3 0.7 .476 .422 3.1 .510 .863  7.1 3.0
82 39.5 30.1 7.6 2.8 1.4 1.0 .476 .365 4.3 .514 .900 10.2 3.3


Brandon Ingram
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 G  MP   PTS REB AST STL BLK  FG%  3P% 3PA eFG%  FT% FTA TOV
79 28.8  9.4 4.0 2.1 0.6 0.5 .402 .294 2.4 .442 .621 2.7 1.5
59 33.5 16.1 5.3 3.9 0.8 0.7 .470 .390 1.8 .497 .681 4.8 2.5


I Like ingram, i wish him well...but this just confirms that other superstars have made a significant jump in their third year.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 9:29 pm    Post subject:

Lakerz113 wrote:
Ziggy wrote:
I think people are really underrating how much growth BI showed this season in only his 2nd year. He's going to be an elite wing in this league once he puts on some grown man weight. Like BI, Giannis and KD both entered the league at 19. Here are their first 3 seasons in the NBA:

Giannis Antetokopoompolo
Code:

 G  MP   PTS REB AST STL BLK  FG%  3P% 3PA eFG%  FT% FTA TOV
77 24.6  6.8 4.4 1.9 0.8 0.8 .414 .347 1.5 .463 .683 2.6 1.6
81 31.4 12.7 6.7 2.6 0.9 1.0 .491 .159 0.5 .496 .741 4.3 2.1
80 35.3 16.9 7.7 4.3 1.2 1.4 .506 .257 1.4 .520 .724 5.1 2.6


Kevin Durant
Code:

 G  MP   PTS REB AST STL BLK  FG%  3P% 3PA eFG%  FT%  FTA TOV
80 34.6 20.3 4.4 2.4 1.0 0.9 .430 .288 2.6 .451 .873  5.6 2.9
74 39.0 25.3 6.5 2.8 1.3 0.7 .476 .422 3.1 .510 .863  7.1 3.0
82 39.5 30.1 7.6 2.8 1.4 1.0 .476 .365 4.3 .514 .900 10.2 3.3


Brandon Ingram
Code:

 G  MP   PTS REB AST STL BLK  FG%  3P% 3PA eFG%  FT% FTA TOV
79 28.8  9.4 4.0 2.1 0.6 0.5 .402 .294 2.4 .442 .621 2.7 1.5
59 33.5 16.1 5.3 3.9 0.8 0.7 .470 .390 1.8 .497 .681 4.8 2.5


I Like ingram, i wish him well...but this just confirms that other superstars have made a significant jump in their third year.

Good thing heís only played 2
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 9:34 pm    Post subject:

We need to have a sign up sheet for people that thing Ingram will turn into a superstar, in 2 years we gon' (bleep) it up in this chat. It's finna be a CELEBRATION 24/7
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 9:35 pm    Post subject:

Ziggy wrote:
I think people are really underrating how much growth BI showed this season in only his 2nd year. He's going to be an elite wing in this league once he puts on some grown man weight. Like BI, Giannis and KD both entered the league at 19. Here are their first 3 seasons in the NBA:

Giannis Antetokopoompolo
Code:

 G  MP   PTS REB AST STL BLK  FG%  3P% 3PA eFG%  FT% FTA TOV
77 24.6  6.8 4.4 1.9 0.8 0.8 .414 .347 1.5 .463 .683 2.6 1.6
81 31.4 12.7 6.7 2.6 0.9 1.0 .491 .159 0.5 .496 .741 4.3 2.1
80 35.3 16.9 7.7 4.3 1.2 1.4 .506 .257 1.4 .520 .724 5.1 2.6


Kevin Durant
Code:

 G  MP   PTS REB AST STL BLK  FG%  3P% 3PA eFG%  FT%  FTA TOV
80 34.6 20.3 4.4 2.4 1.0 0.9 .430 .288 2.6 .451 .873  5.6 2.9
74 39.0 25.3 6.5 2.8 1.3 0.7 .476 .422 3.1 .510 .863  7.1 3.0
82 39.5 30.1 7.6 2.8 1.4 1.0 .476 .365 4.3 .514 .900 10.2 3.3


Brandon Ingram
Code:

 G  MP   PTS REB AST STL BLK  FG%  3P% 3PA eFG%  FT% FTA TOV
79 28.8  9.4 4.0 2.1 0.6 0.5 .402 .294 2.4 .442 .621 2.7 1.5
59 33.5 16.1 5.3 3.9 0.8 0.7 .470 .390 1.8 .497 .681 4.8 2.5

Bi defense is better year 2 than those guys. Better handling ball as well
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 10:20 pm    Post subject:

Judah wrote:
So BI showed no glimpses of stardom this year? Really?

Gotta love the analysis of folks who watch the games with their eyes closed.


The flashes were there. What remains to be seen is how our offseason moves impact his role.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 10:26 pm    Post subject:

I will continue to support BI and i like the numbers but when i watch him i just dont see that "it" factor. I almost feel like kuzma showed more of that in year 1.

Hope im wrong and i hope BI becomes a beast, but id be lying if i said i wasnt worried about the chances.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 11:01 pm    Post subject:

Lakerz113 wrote:
I will continue to support BI and i like the numbers but when i watch him i just dont see that "it" factor. I almost feel like kuzma showed more of that in year 1.

Hope im wrong and i hope BI becomes a beast, but id be lying if i said i wasnt worried about the chances.


I love Kuz, he is smooth and always aggressive ... and he will improve. But I'm pretty certain BI at 22 is going to be on a whole other level of play than Kuz at 22.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 11:08 pm    Post subject:

It's not sexy, but if Brandon could just drill down and learn to shoot FTs consistently, his numbers would explode.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 11:23 pm    Post subject:

mookielala wrote:
It's not sexy, but if Brandon could just drill down and learn to shoot FTs consistently, his numbers would explode.


Concerning that he doesnt knock down free throws at a high rate ?

As a scorer/shooter that concerns me
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 15, 2018 1:15 am    Post subject:

Really shows how important free throws are. Ingram could have legit averaged 20 ppg if he wasnít so bad at it.

This offseason, no more shenanigans at the ft line. 80%+ please. No reason why he shouldnít be.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 15, 2018 3:33 am    Post subject:

(bleep), KDs first three years were insane.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 15, 2018 7:33 am    Post subject:

This is the joy of having a team full of young talent, every year is a potential breakout year for someone. Randle this year, Ingram/Kuz next season and Lonzo on deck. It's basketball porn, real raunchy stuff.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 15, 2018 9:38 am    Post subject:

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(bleep), KDs first three years were insane.


That's what an all-time great scorer looks like. He was a scoring savant from day 1.

I just wanted to show that BI made a huge leap from year 1 to year 2, and that we have every reason to believe he will continue on that trajectory like those other 2 guys did.

To me the thing that jumped out about KD's 3rd year was his FTA. Every great scorer is able to get to the free throw line and he took a big jump that year.

For Giannis, he just made a slow and steady improvement across the board. I think that is more in line with the growth BI will show. Neither of them are specialists at any one thing, like KD was/is with scoring.

Both Giannis and KD have physical advantages over BI, so I don't expect BI to reach the bar that they set. But if he's anywhere even close, then he'll be a future all-star.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 15, 2018 9:40 am    Post subject:

trablos wrote:
(bleep), KDs first three years were insane.


And comparing Ingram to him isnít fair to Brandon. He will be his own player, hopefully one that will help lead to some titles.
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