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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 3:10 pm    Post subject:

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You donít make the jump BI makes from year 1 to year 2 without putting in the work. Period. You donít just improve because youíve played before. See: Ivica Zubac last season.


Putting in the work and being the hardest worker on the team are very different things. Iíd like to see him build up his body more before I anoint him with that title. Iíd guess Hart is the hardest worker based off of overall improvement both skill wise and physically but thatís just a guess, just like it is when people say that about Ingram.


You do realize this is BASKETBALL and not body building right. When they train in the weight room it isn't for aesthetics/to get big
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 3:21 pm    Post subject:

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You donít make the jump BI makes from year 1 to year 2 without putting in the work. Period. You donít just improve because youíve played before. See: Ivica Zubac last season.


Putting in the work and being the hardest worker on the team are very different things. Iíd like to see him build up his body more before I anoint him with that title. Iíd guess Hart is the hardest worker based off of overall improvement both skill wise and physically but thatís just a guess, just like it is when people say that about Ingram.


You do realize this is BASKETBALL and not body building right. When they train in the weight room it isn't for aesthetics/to get big
This is true, you look at Durant, is he the hardest worker on his team, probably is but he doesn't really look it. Also, BI had to be locked out of the gym because he works too much, more than any on that team. We've already seen his strength last year too, he might be skinny but he has strength in that skinny frame.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 4:19 pm    Post subject:

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BI may not be a HOFer for all we know, but he is certainly nowhere near a bust.


Yes, there is a good chance he lands in the vast middle of the two. Even if he does turn out to be Prince that puts him closer to the HOF than a bust.


He's already better than Tayshaun.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 4:25 pm    Post subject:

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 4:31 pm    Post subject:

Seen a lot of basketball in my life, and I see a star in Ingram!!

But thatís just me.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 5:35 pm    Post subject:

Y3BI is gonna be nice.
Hoping for the same 3PT% on 4 attempts a game.
I wonder if he can keep the same FTr of .371 with LeBron here though.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 5:43 pm    Post subject:

BI would be going into his JR season in college. People donít always remember heís still very young. Building strength takes time and years of work. Slow and steady growth.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 5:57 pm    Post subject:

He's wirey strong. Just needs more el bees to absorb contact.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 6:07 pm    Post subject:

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You donít make the jump BI makes from year 1 to year 2 without putting in the work. Period. You donít just improve because youíve played before. See: Ivica Zubac last season.


Putting in the work and being the hardest worker on the team are very different things. Iíd like to see him build up his body more before I anoint him with that title. Iíd guess Hart is the hardest worker based off of overall improvement both skill wise and physically but thatís just a guess, just like it is when people say that about Ingram.


You're wrong, bro. You've been proven wrong in this thread yet you still want to dig in on your baseless take.

Not only has Ingram been touted by the team as the hardest worker but GoldenThroat aka LakersFilmRoom has also said that BI is a gym rat. Also, the kid has hired the same trainer Oladipo used last season and has posted several of his training videos so far. It's ok to be wrong and admit it.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 7:35 pm    Post subject:

NotHype wrote:
Seen a lot of basketball in my life, and I see a star in Ingram!!

But thatís just me.


Me too, bro.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 7:38 pm    Post subject:

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BI would be going into his JR season in college. People donít always remember heís still very young. Building strength takes time and years of work. Slow and steady growth.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 8:49 pm    Post subject:

Doc JC wrote:
BI would be going into his JR season in college. People donít always remember heís still very young. Building strength takes time and years of work. Slow and steady growth.


he'd be going into his SENIOR year in college, since he came out after his freshman year and has spent two years in the league.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 11:42 pm    Post subject:

vdogg11 wrote:
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BI would be going into his JR season in college. People donít always remember heís still very young. Building strength takes time and years of work. Slow and steady growth.


he'd be going into his SENIOR year in college, since he came out after his freshman year and has spent two years in the league.


Well, what if he was held back?
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 12:09 am    Post subject:

Omar Little wrote:
vdogg11 wrote:
Doc JC wrote:
BI would be going into his JR season in college. People donít always remember heís still very young. Building strength takes time and years of work. Slow and steady growth.


he'd be going into his SENIOR year in college, since he came out after his freshman year and has spent two years in the league.


Well, what if he was held back?


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 12:38 am    Post subject:

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When I watch Ingram play, I see a borderline bust. Maybe I just don't know basketball but I would try to get as much value as possible for him before he gets exposed next season.


I don't see any bust in his game whatsoever unless he gets injured or doesn't improve.

He is a proven hard worker and has continually improved his game so I don't know where you see bust. Explain?


Heís no bust but heís far from a proven hard worker IMO. Thatís just a term people use to prop up or put down players they like or donít like. We donít know these kids workout habits. He needs to work on his body more so than anybody in the young core and Iíd argue heís made the least progress in that sense(at least to this point).

With that said, heís proven his floor is a rotational player on a good team.


We actually do know BIs workout habits and heís a proven hard worker and gym rat


Yeah, when a guy is literally locked out of the gym because he's working TOO hard... I'd say the kid is a hard worker. Pretty sure GT has verified he's a work horse iirc?


He's working with two different trainers this year. Strength and skills training. Magic/Pelinka have said he's a hard worker. So has Luke. So has his teammates. Based on what we actually have to go by, he's a hard worker.

This "we don't actually know" spin can apply to virtually anyone we don't know personally so that's a ridiculous take.


Yes it does apply to almost all athletes because the information is generally not made public. Our FO says that about everybody. My point is simply that you canít say heís a hard worker so we shouldnít trade him. We donít know that and the fact heís working with independent trainers instead of at the team facilities doesnít prove he works harder or less hard than anybody else on the roster. Itís just something that fans use to prop up their favorites and put down the ones they donít like as much.


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Brandon was just a beast the way he worked this offseasonÖThe way he was working in the weight room and on the court, heís a leader. He definitely has that Magic Johnson Kobe Bryant mentality about him where if he sees you in his way heís going to find a way through you.


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ďThe guy only cares about winning and basketball,Ē Johnson said. ďHeís quiet and doesnít do anything else. He is a very intelligent young man and is our hardest worker


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ďWhen you have that type of work ethic and you can play basketball the way he can,Ē Lakers coach Luke Walton said, ďheís going to continue to get better and better at different things.Ē


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It's one thing for Magic Johnson to compliment Ingram's work ethic, it's another thing for him to straight up say "Yep, that guy is our hardest worker".


Didnít he say that last off-season? Regardless, itís PR for the most part. Iím not saying heís lazy by any means but I donít think heís an outlier as far as how hard he works.


Actually your first post in this exchange said " heís far from a proven hard worker". That's patently false. The people who would know say he's the hardest worker on the team. He is a proven hard worker.

Yet when the proof is presented to you, instead of gracefully taking an L and admitting that you were wrong, you brush it off as PR.

Your posts on this page are some of the dumbest posts in this thread, which is saying something, because this thread is full of dumb posts. Congratulations.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 1:00 am    Post subject:

Wow. Ingram is a hard worker. Didnít think that was a point of contention. I thought the question was where would his body cap out once filled in and would that be good enough for him to be a borderline all star, an all star, superstar?
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 1:18 am    Post subject:

People think you can go from Skelator to Josh Hart in an off-season? Ok
Takes years
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 2:24 am    Post subject:

BigGameHames wrote:
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You donít make the jump BI makes from year 1 to year 2 without putting in the work. Period. You donít just improve because youíve played before. See: Ivica Zubac last season.


Putting in the work and being the hardest worker on the team are very different things. Iíd like to see him build up his body more before I anoint him with that title. Iíd guess Hart is the hardest worker based off of overall improvement both skill wise and physically but thatís just a guess, just like it is when people say that about Ingram.


Hart has a different body type and he's 23 years old. Ingram is 20
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 2:45 am    Post subject:

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People think you can go from Skelator to Josh Hart in an off-season? Ok
Takes years


Skeletor was actually buff
https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/heman/images/5/57/Originalskeletor.jpg
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 3:20 am    Post subject:

Andre2K wrote:
BigGameHames wrote:
pokoy wrote:
You donít make the jump BI makes from year 1 to year 2 without putting in the work. Period. You donít just improve because youíve played before. See: Ivica Zubac last season.


Putting in the work and being the hardest worker on the team are very different things. Iíd like to see him build up his body more before I anoint him with that title. Iíd guess Hart is the hardest worker based off of overall improvement both skill wise and physically but thatís just a guess, just like it is when people say that about Ingram.


Hart has a different body type and he's 23 years old. Ingram is 20

Only 20 and BI is looking better than a year ago. I see his upside as being a James Worthy type who can also shoot the 3 and be a play-maker.
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Jesusdelonla wrote:
Omar Little wrote:
vdogg11 wrote:
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BI would be going into his JR season in college. People donít always remember heís still very young. Building strength takes time and years of work. Slow and steady growth.


he'd be going into his SENIOR year in college, since he came out after his freshman year and has spent two years in the league.


Well, what if he was held back?




Technically heís a year young for his class, so he would be a Jr in college by age. Remember heís the same age as Lonzo and a year younger than the #1 pick from his own draft class.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 3:36 am    Post subject:

epak wrote:
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People think you can go from Skelator to Josh Hart in an off-season? Ok
Takes years


Skeletor was actually buff
https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/heman/images/5/57/Originalskeletor.jpg


I think when they say Skelator in this concept they actually meant Jack Skellington.
http://disney.wikia.com/wiki/Jack_Skellington
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tony wrote:
BigGameHames wrote:
pokoy wrote:
You donít make the jump BI makes from year 1 to year 2 without putting in the work. Period. You donít just improve because youíve played before. See: Ivica Zubac last season.


Putting in the work and being the hardest worker on the team are very different things. Iíd like to see him build up his body more before I anoint him with that title. Iíd guess Hart is the hardest worker based off of overall improvement both skill wise and physically but thatís just a guess, just like it is when people say that about Ingram.


You do realize this is BASKETBALL and not body building right. When they train in the weight room it isn't for aesthetics/to get big


On top of that, if a player puts too much weight and muscles too quickly, he may have problems with knees, ankles and feet, who are not ready for the extra effort right away. That's what happened to Ben Simmons.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 6:08 am    Post subject:

Good series of tweets on BI.

https://twitter.com/AndrewDBailey/status/1017274628169846784
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