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Mike@LG
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| LakersRGolden wrote: | | Mike@LG wrote: | | dcarter4kobe wrote: | | Right now a 15/8/2blk player looks to be realistic in only a few short years. The main question will be how he develops on defense? |
He'll always soft hedge/ICE PnRs. Key thing is for him to be efficient on offense and being a legit enough rebounder/rim protector to stay on the floor. |
Yep. He needs to become a bigger + on offense then - on PnR defense. |
I think he's fine. It's just him getting touches.
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| If Zubac gets similar minutes to what Ingram has gotten this season what are his numbers and how many more wins do we get? |
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| defense wrote: | | If Zubac gets similar minutes to what Ingram has gotten this season what are his numbers and how many more wins do we get? |
It doesn't happen. Zubac NEEDED to basically play 2 a days at the NBDL and NBA level to build up his conditioning quickly. Fortunately, he didn't burn out.
Once he got to that conditioning level, he became a consistent enough rim runner end to end, and that helped him get the legit PT.
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| defense wrote: | | If Zubac gets similar minutes to what Ingram has gotten this season what are his numbers and how many more wins do we get? |
Zu really wasn't ready for more than spot minutes almost to the exact time Luke started playing him.
I watched him with the Dfenders, and he was really out of shape.
however, next year is shaping up to be pretty interesting with both BI & Zu coming into their own
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| At this point, he our most consistent player |
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Yong
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Skal and Zu should have been top 10 picks based on performance AND potential.
Shame we couldn't nab Skal too. |
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Just curious.
Given how Zizic is shaping up to be a dominant big in European league, and how Skal is showing ridiculous upside, who is the best prospect amongst them? Funny how Bender was drafted 20-30 slots ahead of them |
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| Yong wrote: | Just curious.
Given how Zizic is shaping up to be a dominant big in European league, and how Skal is showing ridiculous upside, who is the best prospect amongst them? Funny how Bender was drafted 20-30 slots ahead of them |
I still like Bender the most |
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| KeepItRealOrElse wrote: | | Yong wrote: | Just curious.
Given how Zizic is shaping up to be a dominant big in European league, and how Skal is showing ridiculous upside, who is the best prospect amongst them? Funny how Bender was drafted 20-30 slots ahead of them |
I still like Bender the most |
May I ask why? |
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| Yong wrote: | | KeepItRealOrElse wrote: | | Yong wrote: | Just curious.
Given how Zizic is shaping up to be a dominant big in European league, and how Skal is showing ridiculous upside, who is the best prospect amongst them? Funny how Bender was drafted 20-30 slots ahead of them |
I still like Bender the most |
May I ask why? |
Love love love his potential skill-set. And I'm not scared of a bad season or two from the physically under developed
He can really handle the ball coast to coast, shooting potential, defensive potential. At 7'1. |
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Hopefully Luke allows him to touch the floor in the 4th.
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| KeepItRealOrElse wrote: | | Yong wrote: | | KeepItRealOrElse wrote: | | Yong wrote: | Just curious.
Given how Zizic is shaping up to be a dominant big in European league, and how Skal is showing ridiculous upside, who is the best prospect amongst them? Funny how Bender was drafted 20-30 slots ahead of them |
I still like Bender the most |
May I ask why? |
Love love love his potential skill-set. And I'm not scared of a bad season or two from the physically under developed
He can really handle the ball coast to coast, shooting potential, defensive potential. At 7'1. |
I think he's struggled cuz he barely played any minutes for Maccabi Tel Aviv and hasn't adjusted to the NBA game yet. He got a lot of comps to Porzingis but I think it was just the whole tall Euro who can shoot bias. Not very comparable to Porzingis imo |
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| WeDidItReddit wrote: | | KeepItRealOrElse wrote: | | Yong wrote: | | KeepItRealOrElse wrote: | | Yong wrote: | Just curious.
Given how Zizic is shaping up to be a dominant big in European league, and how Skal is showing ridiculous upside, who is the best prospect amongst them? Funny how Bender was drafted 20-30 slots ahead of them |
I still like Bender the most |
May I ask why? |
Love love love his potential skill-set. And I'm not scared of a bad season or two from the physically under developed
He can really handle the ball coast to coast, shooting potential, defensive potential. At 7'1. |
I think he's struggled cuz he barely played any minutes for Maccabi Tel Aviv and hasn't adjusted to the NBA game yet. He got a lot of comps to Porzingis but I think it was just the whole tall Euro who can shoot bias. Not very comparable to Porzingis imo |
Right, they're not similar in play style at all. |
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Haven't seen much of Bender but that was a head scratcher pick by PHX, screams Darko Milicic to me
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Another good effort
Another benching |
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| defense wrote: | Another good effort
Another benching |
This is why I say he still would go behind guys like Chriss. The NBA, and especially Luke, prefer to have speed out on the court.
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| defense wrote: | Another good effort
Another benching |
We are tanking.
Zu is looking like our best prospect out there. Smart and skilled offensive player, way above average skillset for someone his age, may be a best midrange shooter than our guards he seems to be money from the elbows. Still lacking conditioning, fortunately has a nice soft touch around the basket. |
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| Andre2K wrote: | | Haven't seen much of Bender but that was a head scratcher pick by PHX, screams Darko Milicic to me |
The Darko comp is completely lazy. If you want to trash the kid, at least bring up Nokoloz Tskitishvili.
But dude is younger than Ingram. He deserves just as much patience as BI has gotten. |
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| He's got a long way to go on defense. |
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| GoldenThroat wrote: | | He's got a long way to go on defense. |
Just like most 19 years old players. I believe going after fundamentally sound unathletic players in Europe made him unaware of mobile players backdooring him, he should learn better with experience. He is leading us in BLK% by a wide margin, in fact he is one of the best 3 players at this stat from the last 20 years considering his age barely using his left. |
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| Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2017 3:26 am Post subject: |
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| I hope he starts lifting like a mad man. He's a weak finisher. |
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| Baron Von Humongous wrote: | | Andre2K wrote: | | Haven't seen much of Bender but that was a head scratcher pick by PHX, screams Darko Milicic to me |
The Darko comp is completely lazy. If you want to trash the kid, at least bring up Nokoloz Tskitishvili.
But dude is younger than Ingram. He deserves just as much patience as BI has gotten. |
I wasn't comparing him to Darko at all. I meant the move to pick him that high reminded me of what the pistons did. I've barely seen the kid play, I have no incentive to trash him, he is PHX problem not ours.
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| GoldenThroat wrote: | | He's got a long way to go on defense. |
Its obvious, but i noticed that today when Zu tried block Monroe he used his left (no right) hand to this. Its progress. |
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