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PostPosted: Mon May 01, 2017 8:58 pm    Post subject:

Does anyone see similarities between Zubac and Rik Smits? Both are kind of slow and both have a good midrange and post game.
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Does anyone see similarities between Zubac and Rik Smits? Both are kind of slow and both have a good midrange and post game.


It is tough to say because Zubac is just 19, he clearly has a lot to develop in terms of conditioning so I'd say at this point yes, but we really don't know after a couple of seasons under a NBA program what kind of physical tools we can expect from Zubac in his prime.
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looks like we are starting to do what fans were doing with okafor for far too long... zubac is 20 now, guys. and STILL really young.
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I see a bit of hakeem olajuwon mixed with moses malone and some prime wilt chamberlain in zubac
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damnit. Not gonna lie. Wish we could find an athletic mobile big that can anchor the defense. We think Zuback is a steal in the second round? Imagine if we could somehow find steal like Gobert, that would change the outlook of the franchise completely. How the hell can a guy like that fall to #27 in the draft? As a draft prospect, he was 7'2, 7'9 wingspan, 9'7 standing reach, 4% body fat.

No way would a prospect like that fall so far now, since mobile rim protectors are recognized as the gold standard for the center position. I still like Zubac though. He's not the prototypical defensive 5, but I could definitely see him as the prototypical offensive 5 if he can legitimately knock down threes. He's an absolute gem offensively if he can be a three point threat. That would separate him from guys like Kanter.

A center that can rebound, protect the rim, and do everything offensively (screens, pick and roll scoring, three point threat, decent passing, high IQ)? Modern enough for me.

How about Jonathan Jeanne with #28 this year and just lock him in the weight room for a year. 7'2" with a 7'5" wingspan, moves like a SF and blocked almost 4 shots a game this season. Skinny, but still only 19 years old.


7'7 wingpsan 210lbs


Would rather get Tony Bradley. Duncan-like athleticism, 7'5" WS, great post base, 19% ORPG%, 19% DRPG%, solid shot form and should only get better.

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Tony-Bradley-81973/

I just think Brandon Ingram can push Jonathan Jeanne around.

Then again, this is why I like Anigbogu so much. To me, he's the shorter, better lateral version of DeAndre Jordan anyway. The difference? DJ stayed in college all 4 years, then another 3 years in the NBA before he woke up. Anigbogu is just a freshman, and a very young one at that.


Bradley, interesting. How is he laterally on PnR defense/space?
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damnit. Not gonna lie. Wish we could find an athletic mobile big that can anchor the defense. We think Zuback is a steal in the second round? Imagine if we could somehow find steal like Gobert, that would change the outlook of the franchise completely. How the hell can a guy like that fall to #27 in the draft? As a draft prospect, he was 7'2, 7'9 wingspan, 9'7 standing reach, 4% body fat.

No way would a prospect like that fall so far now, since mobile rim protectors are recognized as the gold standard for the center position. I still like Zubac though. He's not the prototypical defensive 5, but I could definitely see him as the prototypical offensive 5 if he can legitimately knock down threes. He's an absolute gem offensively if he can be a three point threat. That would separate him from guys like Kanter.

A center that can rebound, protect the rim, and do everything offensively (screens, pick and roll scoring, three point threat, decent passing, high IQ)? Modern enough for me.

How about Jonathan Jeanne with #28 this year and just lock him in the weight room for a year. 7'2" with a 7'5" wingspan, moves like a SF and blocked almost 4 shots a game this season. Skinny, but still only 19 years old.


7'7 wingpsan 210lbs


Would rather get Tony Bradley. Duncan-like athleticism, 7'5" WS, great post base, 19% ORPG%, 19% DRPG%, solid shot form and should only get better.

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Tony-Bradley-81973/

I just think Brandon Ingram can push Jonathan Jeanne around.

Then again, this is why I like Anigbogu so much. To me, he's the shorter, better lateral version of DeAndre Jordan anyway. The difference? DJ stayed in college all 4 years, then another 3 years in the NBA before he woke up. Anigbogu is just a freshman, and a very young one at that.


DJ only played on year of college. I remember he was in some lottery in some mock draft and fell off to Clippers lap in the 2nd round. I like Ike as well and hopefully he can fall to our lap as well.
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Mike@LG wrote:
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dao wrote:
damnit. Not gonna lie. Wish we could find an athletic mobile big that can anchor the defense. We think Zuback is a steal in the second round? Imagine if we could somehow find steal like Gobert, that would change the outlook of the franchise completely. How the hell can a guy like that fall to #27 in the draft? As a draft prospect, he was 7'2, 7'9 wingspan, 9'7 standing reach, 4% body fat.

No way would a prospect like that fall so far now, since mobile rim protectors are recognized as the gold standard for the center position. I still like Zubac though. He's not the prototypical defensive 5, but I could definitely see him as the prototypical offensive 5 if he can legitimately knock down threes. He's an absolute gem offensively if he can be a three point threat. That would separate him from guys like Kanter.

A center that can rebound, protect the rim, and do everything offensively (screens, pick and roll scoring, three point threat, decent passing, high IQ)? Modern enough for me.

How about Jonathan Jeanne with #28 this year and just lock him in the weight room for a year. 7'2" with a 7'5" wingspan, moves like a SF and blocked almost 4 shots a game this season. Skinny, but still only 19 years old.


7'7 wingpsan 210lbs


Would rather get Tony Bradley. Duncan-like athleticism, 7'5" WS, great post base, 19% ORPG%, 19% DRPG%, solid shot form and should only get better.

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Tony-Bradley-81973/

I just think Brandon Ingram can push Jonathan Jeanne around.

Then again, this is why I like Anigbogu so much. To me, he's the shorter, better lateral version of DeAndre Jordan anyway. The difference? DJ stayed in college all 4 years, then another 3 years in the NBA before he woke up. Anigbogu is just a freshman, and a very young one at that.
All of these guys are interesting prospects. The most intriguing to me though is the 7'2 guy the 7'7 wingspan. He also seems to have the best feet by far of the group, which should be expected at his 210 lbs, stick-man frame. He needs to gain at least 25 pounds of muscle to bang in the NBA though. I don't know how realistic that is. But that length combined with that mobility is the sort of thing that just jumps off the screen, it's very reminiscent of Gobert as a prospect. Gobert had close to 30 pounds on him, and obviously that's huge. But this guy has more mobility. If he could gain weight, even with reduced mobility from the weight gain, he'd still have Gobert-like mobility, combined with Gobert level freakish length. I don't know how to project a young player's weight gain potential, but if this guy could realistically gain 25 pounds, I want him! He has enough mobility to play PF as well if he can't gain enough weight, and could be a nice stretch 4 prospect if he can develop 3 point range.

Hell, draft one of them at #28 and another at #33. Your chances of at least one of them panning out long-term are pretty decent. You can then reach some sort of buyout agreement with Mozgov. He will realize that he won't get any PT here, and that he could still get a decent contract offer from some other team.
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dao wrote:
Mike@LG wrote:
KeepItRealOrElse wrote:
DoubleClutch wrote:
dao wrote:
damnit. Not gonna lie. Wish we could find an athletic mobile big that can anchor the defense. We think Zuback is a steal in the second round? Imagine if we could somehow find steal like Gobert, that would change the outlook of the franchise completely. How the hell can a guy like that fall to #27 in the draft? As a draft prospect, he was 7'2, 7'9 wingspan, 9'7 standing reach, 4% body fat.

No way would a prospect like that fall so far now, since mobile rim protectors are recognized as the gold standard for the center position. I still like Zubac though. He's not the prototypical defensive 5, but I could definitely see him as the prototypical offensive 5 if he can legitimately knock down threes. He's an absolute gem offensively if he can be a three point threat. That would separate him from guys like Kanter.

A center that can rebound, protect the rim, and do everything offensively (screens, pick and roll scoring, three point threat, decent passing, high IQ)? Modern enough for me.

How about Jonathan Jeanne with #28 this year and just lock him in the weight room for a year. 7'2" with a 7'5" wingspan, moves like a SF and blocked almost 4 shots a game this season. Skinny, but still only 19 years old.


7'7 wingpsan 210lbs


Would rather get Tony Bradley. Duncan-like athleticism, 7'5" WS, great post base, 19% ORPG%, 19% DRPG%, solid shot form and should only get better.

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Tony-Bradley-81973/


I just think Brandon Ingram can push Jonathan Jeanne around.

Then again, this is why I like Anigbogu so much. To me, he's the shorter, better lateral version of DeAndre Jordan anyway. The difference? DJ stayed in college all 4 years, then another 3 years in the NBA before he woke up. Anigbogu is just a freshman, and a very young one at that.
All of these guys are interesting prospects. The most intriguing to me though is the 7'2 guy the 7'7 wingspan. He also seems to have the best feet by far of the group, which should be expected at his 210 lbs, stick-man frame. He needs to gain at least 25 pounds of muscle to bang in the NBA though. I don't know how realistic that is. But that length combined with that mobility is the sort of thing that just jumps off the screen, it's very reminiscent of Gobert as a prospect. Gobert had close to 30 pounds on him, and obviously that's huge. But this guy has more mobility. If he could gain weight, even with reduced mobility from the weight gain, he'd still have Gobert-like mobility, combined with Gobert level freakish length. I don't know how to project a young player's weight gain potential, but if this guy could realistically gain 25 pounds, I want him! He has enough mobility to play PF as well if he can't gain enough weight, and could be a nice stretch 4 prospect if he can develop 3 point range.

Hell, draft one of them at #28 and another at #33. Your chances of at least one of them panning out long-term are pretty decent. You can then reach some sort of buyout agreement with Mozgov. He will realize that he won't get any PT here, and that he could still get a decent contract offer from some other team.


Wait up fellas this is a link for the 2018 mock draft. That draft next year is going to destroy the 2017 class. I almost wouldn't mind loosing our pick this year just to get a shot at Porter or Bamba.
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PostPosted: Tue May 02, 2017 2:38 pm    Post subject:

dao wrote:
Mike@LG wrote:
KeepItRealOrElse wrote:
DoubleClutch wrote:
dao wrote:
damnit. Not gonna lie. Wish we could find an athletic mobile big that can anchor the defense. We think Zuback is a steal in the second round? Imagine if we could somehow find steal like Gobert, that would change the outlook of the franchise completely. How the hell can a guy like that fall to #27 in the draft? As a draft prospect, he was 7'2, 7'9 wingspan, 9'7 standing reach, 4% body fat.

No way would a prospect like that fall so far now, since mobile rim protectors are recognized as the gold standard for the center position. I still like Zubac though. He's not the prototypical defensive 5, but I could definitely see him as the prototypical offensive 5 if he can legitimately knock down threes. He's an absolute gem offensively if he can be a three point threat. That would separate him from guys like Kanter.

A center that can rebound, protect the rim, and do everything offensively (screens, pick and roll scoring, three point threat, decent passing, high IQ)? Modern enough for me.

How about Jonathan Jeanne with #28 this year and just lock him in the weight room for a year. 7'2" with a 7'5" wingspan, moves like a SF and blocked almost 4 shots a game this season. Skinny, but still only 19 years old.


7'7 wingpsan 210lbs


Would rather get Tony Bradley. Duncan-like athleticism, 7'5" WS, great post base, 19% ORPG%, 19% DRPG%, solid shot form and should only get better.

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Tony-Bradley-81973/

I just think Brandon Ingram can push Jonathan Jeanne around.

Then again, this is why I like Anigbogu so much. To me, he's the shorter, better lateral version of DeAndre Jordan anyway. The difference? DJ stayed in college all 4 years, then another 3 years in the NBA before he woke up. Anigbogu is just a freshman, and a very young one at that.
All of these guys are interesting prospects. The most intriguing to me though is the 7'2 guy the 7'7 wingspan. He also seems to have the best feet by far of the group, which should be expected at his 210 lbs, stick-man frame. He needs to gain at least 25 pounds of muscle to bang in the NBA though. I don't know how realistic that is. But that length combined with that mobility is the sort of thing that just jumps off the screen, it's very reminiscent of Gobert as a prospect. Gobert had close to 30 pounds on him, and obviously that's huge. But this guy has more mobility. If he could gain weight, even with reduced mobility from the weight gain, he'd still have Gobert-like mobility, combined with Gobert level freakish length. I don't know how to project a young player's weight gain potential, but if this guy could realistically gain 25 pounds, I want him! He has enough mobility to play PF as well if he can't gain enough weight, and could be a nice stretch 4 prospect if he can develop 3 point range.

Hell, draft one of them at #28 and another at #33. Your chances of at least one of them panning out long-term are pretty decent. You can then reach some sort of buyout agreement with Mozgov. He will realize that he won't get any PT here, and that he could still get a decent contract offer from some other team.


That's the problem. Even if he gains weight, I still think he's soft.

He doesn't have Gobert-like mobility now, and there's no guarantee that if he bulks up, that he'd get the mobility either.

Position is more important than the physical tools. Dude gets pushed around a lot.
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Dr. Funkbot wrote:
dao wrote:
Mike@LG wrote:
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DoubleClutch wrote:
dao wrote:
damnit. Not gonna lie. Wish we could find an athletic mobile big that can anchor the defense. We think Zuback is a steal in the second round? Imagine if we could somehow find steal like Gobert, that would change the outlook of the franchise completely. How the hell can a guy like that fall to #27 in the draft? As a draft prospect, he was 7'2, 7'9 wingspan, 9'7 standing reach, 4% body fat.

No way would a prospect like that fall so far now, since mobile rim protectors are recognized as the gold standard for the center position. I still like Zubac though. He's not the prototypical defensive 5, but I could definitely see him as the prototypical offensive 5 if he can legitimately knock down threes. He's an absolute gem offensively if he can be a three point threat. That would separate him from guys like Kanter.

A center that can rebound, protect the rim, and do everything offensively (screens, pick and roll scoring, three point threat, decent passing, high IQ)? Modern enough for me.

How about Jonathan Jeanne with #28 this year and just lock him in the weight room for a year. 7'2" with a 7'5" wingspan, moves like a SF and blocked almost 4 shots a game this season. Skinny, but still only 19 years old.


7'7 wingpsan 210lbs


Would rather get Tony Bradley. Duncan-like athleticism, 7'5" WS, great post base, 19% ORPG%, 19% DRPG%, solid shot form and should only get better.

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Tony-Bradley-81973/


I just think Brandon Ingram can push Jonathan Jeanne around.

Then again, this is why I like Anigbogu so much. To me, he's the shorter, better lateral version of DeAndre Jordan anyway. The difference? DJ stayed in college all 4 years, then another 3 years in the NBA before he woke up. Anigbogu is just a freshman, and a very young one at that.
All of these guys are interesting prospects. The most intriguing to me though is the 7'2 guy the 7'7 wingspan. He also seems to have the best feet by far of the group, which should be expected at his 210 lbs, stick-man frame. He needs to gain at least 25 pounds of muscle to bang in the NBA though. I don't know how realistic that is. But that length combined with that mobility is the sort of thing that just jumps off the screen, it's very reminiscent of Gobert as a prospect. Gobert had close to 30 pounds on him, and obviously that's huge. But this guy has more mobility. If he could gain weight, even with reduced mobility from the weight gain, he'd still have Gobert-like mobility, combined with Gobert level freakish length. I don't know how to project a young player's weight gain potential, but if this guy could realistically gain 25 pounds, I want him! He has enough mobility to play PF as well if he can't gain enough weight, and could be a nice stretch 4 prospect if he can develop 3 point range.

Hell, draft one of them at #28 and another at #33. Your chances of at least one of them panning out long-term are pretty decent. You can then reach some sort of buyout agreement with Mozgov. He will realize that he won't get any PT here, and that he could still get a decent contract offer from some other team.


Wait up fellas this is a link for the 2018 mock draft. That draft next year is going to destroy the 2017 class. I almost wouldn't mind loosing our pick this year just to get a shot at Porter or Bamba.


Tony Bradley declared without an agent and is participating in workouts.

If we get the Top 3 2017 pick, there's no 2018 pick.
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PostPosted: Tue May 02, 2017 2:47 pm    Post subject:

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Does anyone see similarities between Zubac and Rik Smits? Both are kind of slow and both have a good midrange and post game.


It is tough to say because Zubac is just 19, he clearly has a lot to develop in terms of conditioning so I'd say at this point yes, but we really don't know after a couple of seasons under a NBA program what kind of physical tools we can expect from Zubac in his prime.


Had a chance to play some pickup ball with Rik many moons ago. I do see similarities. If Zu becomes this efficient
(terrible video) we have something, even in the modern small ball NBA.
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dao wrote:
Mike@LG wrote:
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dao wrote:
damnit. Not gonna lie. Wish we could find an athletic mobile big that can anchor the defense. We think Zuback is a steal in the second round? Imagine if we could somehow find steal like Gobert, that would change the outlook of the franchise completely. How the hell can a guy like that fall to #27 in the draft? As a draft prospect, he was 7'2, 7'9 wingspan, 9'7 standing reach, 4% body fat.

No way would a prospect like that fall so far now, since mobile rim protectors are recognized as the gold standard for the center position. I still like Zubac though. He's not the prototypical defensive 5, but I could definitely see him as the prototypical offensive 5 if he can legitimately knock down threes. He's an absolute gem offensively if he can be a three point threat. That would separate him from guys like Kanter.

A center that can rebound, protect the rim, and do everything offensively (screens, pick and roll scoring, three point threat, decent passing, high IQ)? Modern enough for me.

How about Jonathan Jeanne with #28 this year and just lock him in the weight room for a year. 7'2" with a 7'5" wingspan, moves like a SF and blocked almost 4 shots a game this season. Skinny, but still only 19 years old.


7'7 wingpsan 210lbs


Would rather get Tony Bradley. Duncan-like athleticism, 7'5" WS, great post base, 19% ORPG%, 19% DRPG%, solid shot form and should only get better.

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Tony-Bradley-81973/


I just think Brandon Ingram can push Jonathan Jeanne around.

Then again, this is why I like Anigbogu so much. To me, he's the shorter, better lateral version of DeAndre Jordan anyway. The difference? DJ stayed in college all 4 years, then another 3 years in the NBA before he woke up. Anigbogu is just a freshman, and a very young one at that.
All of these guys are interesting prospects. The most intriguing to me though is the 7'2 guy the 7'7 wingspan. He also seems to have the best feet by far of the group, which should be expected at his 210 lbs, stick-man frame. He needs to gain at least 25 pounds of muscle to bang in the NBA though. I don't know how realistic that is. But that length combined with that mobility is the sort of thing that just jumps off the screen, it's very reminiscent of Gobert as a prospect. Gobert had close to 30 pounds on him, and obviously that's huge. But this guy has more mobility. If he could gain weight, even with reduced mobility from the weight gain, he'd still have Gobert-like mobility, combined with Gobert level freakish length. I don't know how to project a young player's weight gain potential, but if this guy could realistically gain 25 pounds, I want him! He has enough mobility to play PF as well if he can't gain enough weight, and could be a nice stretch 4 prospect if he can develop 3 point range.

Hell, draft one of them at #28 and another at #33. Your chances of at least one of them panning out long-term are pretty decent. You can then reach some sort of buyout agreement with Mozgov. He will realize that he won't get any PT here, and that he could still get a decent contract offer from some other team.


Wait up fellas this is a link for the 2018 mock draft. That draft next year is going to destroy the 2017 class. I almost wouldn't mind loosing our pick this year just to get a shot at Porter or Bamba.


Tony Bradley declared without an agent and is participating in workouts.

If we get the Top 3 2017 pick, there's no 2018 pick.


Oh cool! Well heck yes, take him with our 28 pick!

And I know we loose our 2018 pick if we keep our top three this year. I am just thinking it might not be the end of the world if we lost our pick this year and had a shot somewhere in the lottery for that stacked 2018 class. IMO 2018 is KILLER! Fultz would be maybe number 5 or 6 in 2018. Porter looks amazing, Bamba, Ayton, Doncic.
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damnit. Not gonna lie. Wish we could find an athletic mobile big that can anchor the defense. We think Zuback is a steal in the second round? Imagine if we could somehow find steal like Gobert, that would change the outlook of the franchise completely. How the hell can a guy like that fall to #27 in the draft? As a draft prospect, he was 7'2, 7'9 wingspan, 9'7 standing reach, 4% body fat.

No way would a prospect like that fall so far now, since mobile rim protectors are recognized as the gold standard for the center position. I still like Zubac though. He's not the prototypical defensive 5, but I could definitely see him as the prototypical offensive 5 if he can legitimately knock down threes. He's an absolute gem offensively if he can be a three point threat. That would separate him from guys like Kanter.

A center that can rebound, protect the rim, and do everything offensively (screens, pick and roll scoring, three point threat, decent passing, high IQ)? Modern enough for me.

How about Jonathan Jeanne with #28 this year and just lock him in the weight room for a year. 7'2" with a 7'5" wingspan, moves like a SF and blocked almost 4 shots a game this season. Skinny, but still only 19 years old.


7'7 wingpsan 210lbs


Would rather get Tony Bradley. Duncan-like athleticism, 7'5" WS, great post base, 19% ORPG%, 19% DRPG%, solid shot form and should only get better.

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Tony-Bradley-81973/

I just think Brandon Ingram can push Jonathan Jeanne around.

Then again, this is why I like Anigbogu so much. To me, he's the shorter, better lateral version of DeAndre Jordan anyway. The difference? DJ stayed in college all 4 years, then another 3 years in the NBA before he woke up. Anigbogu is just a freshman, and a very young one at that.
All of these guys are interesting prospects. The most intriguing to me though is the 7'2 guy the 7'7 wingspan. He also seems to have the best feet by far of the group, which should be expected at his 210 lbs, stick-man frame. He needs to gain at least 25 pounds of muscle to bang in the NBA though. I don't know how realistic that is. But that length combined with that mobility is the sort of thing that just jumps off the screen, it's very reminiscent of Gobert as a prospect. Gobert had close to 30 pounds on him, and obviously that's huge. But this guy has more mobility. If he could gain weight, even with reduced mobility from the weight gain, he'd still have Gobert-like mobility, combined with Gobert level freakish length. I don't know how to project a young player's weight gain potential, but if this guy could realistically gain 25 pounds, I want him! He has enough mobility to play PF as well if he can't gain enough weight, and could be a nice stretch 4 prospect if he can develop 3 point range.

Hell, draft one of them at #28 and another at #33. Your chances of at least one of them panning out long-term are pretty decent. You can then reach some sort of buyout agreement with Mozgov. He will realize that he won't get any PT here, and that he could still get a decent contract offer from some other team.


That's the problem. Even if he gains weight, I still think he's soft.

He doesn't have Gobert-like mobility now, and there's no guarantee that if he bulks up, that he'd get the mobility either.

Position is more important than the physical tools. Dude gets pushed around a lot.
ah ok. I've seen half a DX vid on him so I'll trust your insight haha. DX has Bradley in the 2018 draft though, and Anigbogu is slated at #17, so it's unlikely that he falls to 28.

EDIT- I see that Bradley has declared without an agent so he might be a possibility. He has better stats than Anigbogu (9.8 bpm for Bradley compared to 2.7 for Anigbogu). Anigbogu is a better shot blocker though.
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damnit. Not gonna lie. Wish we could find an athletic mobile big that can anchor the defense. We think Zuback is a steal in the second round? Imagine if we could somehow find steal like Gobert, that would change the outlook of the franchise completely. How the hell can a guy like that fall to #27 in the draft? As a draft prospect, he was 7'2, 7'9 wingspan, 9'7 standing reach, 4% body fat.

No way would a prospect like that fall so far now, since mobile rim protectors are recognized as the gold standard for the center position. I still like Zubac though. He's not the prototypical defensive 5, but I could definitely see him as the prototypical offensive 5 if he can legitimately knock down threes. He's an absolute gem offensively if he can be a three point threat. That would separate him from guys like Kanter.

A center that can rebound, protect the rim, and do everything offensively (screens, pick and roll scoring, three point threat, decent passing, high IQ)? Modern enough for me.

How about Jonathan Jeanne with #28 this year and just lock him in the weight room for a year. 7'2" with a 7'5" wingspan, moves like a SF and blocked almost 4 shots a game this season. Skinny, but still only 19 years old.


7'7 wingpsan 210lbs


Would rather get Tony Bradley. Duncan-like athleticism, 7'5" WS, great post base, 19% ORPG%, 19% DRPG%, solid shot form and should only get better.

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Tony-Bradley-81973/


I just think Brandon Ingram can push Jonathan Jeanne around.

Then again, this is why I like Anigbogu so much. To me, he's the shorter, better lateral version of DeAndre Jordan anyway. The difference? DJ stayed in college all 4 years, then another 3 years in the NBA before he woke up. Anigbogu is just a freshman, and a very young one at that.
All of these guys are interesting prospects. The most intriguing to me though is the 7'2 guy the 7'7 wingspan. He also seems to have the best feet by far of the group, which should be expected at his 210 lbs, stick-man frame. He needs to gain at least 25 pounds of muscle to bang in the NBA though. I don't know how realistic that is. But that length combined with that mobility is the sort of thing that just jumps off the screen, it's very reminiscent of Gobert as a prospect. Gobert had close to 30 pounds on him, and obviously that's huge. But this guy has more mobility. If he could gain weight, even with reduced mobility from the weight gain, he'd still have Gobert-like mobility, combined with Gobert level freakish length. I don't know how to project a young player's weight gain potential, but if this guy could realistically gain 25 pounds, I want him! He has enough mobility to play PF as well if he can't gain enough weight, and could be a nice stretch 4 prospect if he can develop 3 point range.

Hell, draft one of them at #28 and another at #33. Your chances of at least one of them panning out long-term are pretty decent. You can then reach some sort of buyout agreement with Mozgov. He will realize that he won't get any PT here, and that he could still get a decent contract offer from some other team.


Wait up fellas this is a link for the 2018 mock draft. That draft next year is going to destroy the 2017 class. I almost wouldn't mind loosing our pick this year just to get a shot at Porter or Bamba.


Tony Bradley declared without an agent and is participating in workouts.

If we get the Top 3 2017 pick, there's no 2018 pick.

For sure I'd take Bradley over Jeanne, but is it realistic to expect him to be there? If Bradley stays in the draft I have a hard time seeing him slip to 28. I mean, is there really that big of a difference between him and Jarrett Allen?
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PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2017 9:18 pm    Post subject:

Zubac back in the gym

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PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2017 9:27 pm    Post subject:

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Zubac back in the gym

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PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2017 10:29 pm    Post subject:

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Zubac back in the gym

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PostPosted: Tue May 09, 2017 12:25 am    Post subject:

next great laker center? i was hopeful for robert upshaw but zubac has restored my faith in the position
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PostPosted: Tue May 09, 2017 3:09 am    Post subject:

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Zubac back in the gym

https://twitter.com/Lakerstweet1/status/861670644248793088


Good to see him working on his left. He switched his pivot foot so it's a good thing he plays in the NBA.
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PostPosted: Tue May 09, 2017 4:06 am    Post subject:

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MJST wrote:
Zubac back in the gym

https://twitter.com/Lakerstweet1/status/861670644248793088


Good to see him working on his left. He switched his pivot foot so it's a good thing he plays in the NBA.


You're legally allowed to do that in the post as long as you shoot before you come down.
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PostPosted: Tue May 09, 2017 4:32 am    Post subject:

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Gimme_the_rock wrote:
MJST wrote:
Zubac back in the gym

https://twitter.com/Lakerstweet1/status/861670644248793088


Good to see him working on his left. He switched his pivot foot so it's a good thing he plays in the NBA.


You're legally allowed to do that in the post as long as you shoot before you come down.


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PostPosted: Tue May 09, 2017 5:12 am    Post subject:

Gimme_the_rock wrote:
fiendishoc wrote:
Gimme_the_rock wrote:
MJST wrote:
Zubac back in the gym

https://twitter.com/Lakerstweet1/status/861670644248793088


Good to see him working on his left. He switched his pivot foot so it's a good thing he plays in the NBA.


You're legally allowed to do that in the post as long as you shoot before you come down.


Wat


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PostPosted: Tue May 09, 2017 5:12 am    Post subject:

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next great laker center? i was hopeful for robert upshaw but zubac has restored my faith in the position


Let's take it one step at a time. I'd be thrilled if he could reach Bynum's prime levels.
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PostPosted: Tue May 09, 2017 5:20 am    Post subject:

fiendishoc wrote:
Gimme_the_rock wrote:
fiendishoc wrote:
Gimme_the_rock wrote:
MJST wrote:
Zubac back in the gym

https://twitter.com/Lakerstweet1/status/861670644248793088


Good to see him working on his left. He switched his pivot foot so it's a good thing he plays in the NBA.


You're legally allowed to do that in the post as long as you shoot before you come down.


Wat


https://twitter.com/beastliest/status/860071432616792064

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Thank you.

That's a change. Pivot was always supposed to remain planted. So is this new? And it only applies in the post?
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PostPosted: Tue May 09, 2017 5:28 am    Post subject:

Gimme_the_rock wrote:
fiendishoc wrote:
Gimme_the_rock wrote:
fiendishoc wrote:
Gimme_the_rock wrote:
MJST wrote:
Zubac back in the gym

https://twitter.com/Lakerstweet1/status/861670644248793088


Good to see him working on his left. He switched his pivot foot so it's a good thing he plays in the NBA.


You're legally allowed to do that in the post as long as you shoot before you come down.


Wat


https://twitter.com/beastliest/status/860071432616792064

0:40 seconds


Thank you.

That's a change. Pivot was always supposed to remain planted. So is this new? And it only applies in the post?


It's been this way for a while. Same for NCAA and high school.
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