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kobe8One
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| Luke is holding him back so he doesn't get a big contract. Zu is very good and will transform into a legit center after few summers of weight training. He can easily score 16-18 points with a good PNR point guard and stay away from foul trouble. His BB skill is better than Randle. |
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| Would be nice to see the referees stop calling bogus fouls on him |
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audioaxes
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| I dont get why Luke hasnt tried running much more sets for Zubac with all our play makers down. Kuzma and BI are clearly not ready to be 1A and 1B playmakers so atleast force feed Zu in the paint and let him get more buckets. |
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| kobe8One wrote: | | Luke is holding him back so he doesn't get a big contract. Zu is very good and will transform into a legit center after few summers of weight training. He can easily score 16-18 points with a good PNR point guard and stay away from foul trouble. His BB skill is better than Randle. |
Read somewhere that Lakers are willing to move him along with Hart and Wagner. |
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Let me see if I get it right: He's a RFA for next season with a QO of $1.9M. If we sign him as a Bird exception, given it's after 3 seasons (not 4) his cap hold is also $1.9M, right?
So, the free spot cap hold is about $0.9M, which means Zubac is taking only $1.0M of our free cap. If we sign a <10yrs Max (Kahwi, Klay...) we have enough cap space for him.
If we sign a >10yrs Max (Durant) - that's would eat all our available cap - we need to free about $1.0M in the current roster, which means trading someone like Moe Wagner (Svi or Bonga won't do) or trading our 1st round for 2 2nd rounds.
Is that it?
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Whenever Zubac seals another center at the basket where he can turn and hook shot over them, the ball should be going to him.
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| MJST wrote: | | Whenever Zubac seals another center at the basket where he can turn and hook shot over them, the ball should be going to him. |
He's shooting 91% on 54 ft's and has the 2nd best touch around the rim next to Kuzma. If Luke was doing what's best for the team, he would design plays (screens) like Jerry Sloan used to do, that got Karl Malone open under or near the basket repeatedly. Offensively it's politically incorrect because Zubac doesn't even start, but it's about winning. His high shooting % gives the team the greatest chance to score when he gets the ball inside. I like Luke but he's stubborn almost as bad as Phil once he gets fixated on certain guys.
Zubac with the ball inside can attract enough attention to free up outside shooters for easy looks that Lakers don't normally get.
After developing him for 3 years, they'd be fools to decide he's peaked at age 21. Weight training, time in the gym, and appropriate usage is about to make him a star and 20 ppg scorer by next season. No one took it seriously when I compared him with Jermaine O'Neal, who sat 4 years before he became a star. Zubac is on the cusp of being a very special player. With a little more arc on his jump shot, his outside touch can be a beautiful sight. He's going to make his pg great. |
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| Lazlow wrote: | | Jesusdelonla wrote: | | He is RFA or UFA? |
He's gone.
We aren't going to match the offers he is going to get. |
All they need to do is get him to wait until they spend their free agent money.
Don't want Magic Rob to screw Zubac up like they did Randle. |
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| greenfrog wrote: | | I'm pretty sure Zu can fit with Lebron too. Meshing with bigs isn't a problem with him. |
Lebron will get Zu lots of good shots. They can mesh not problem. |
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| The 5 position should now be a 2 headed monster with ZU and McGee. Tyson should only be given a few sparse minutes and should NOT be starting (especially considering we need offense bad with all our guys out). |
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| Hope we keep Zubac, I wouldn’t trade or release unless it was a star player c9ming back in the package. |
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| Lazlow wrote: | | Jesusdelonla wrote: | | He is RFA or UFA? |
He's gone.
We aren't going to match the offers he is going to get. |
I'd say you're probably right ... although, he does love the Lakers so I think we have a leg up in that respect. But I guess the difference between what we'd be willing to pay and what he can get will be key. |
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| kobe8One wrote: | | Luke is holding him back so he doesn't get a big contract. Zu is very good and will transform into a legit center after few summers of weight training. He can easily score 16-18 points with a good PNR point guard and stay away from foul trouble. His BB skill is better than Randle. |
He can’t defend 15 feet from the basket, that doesn’t fit today. He can be another Chandler or McGee but not a full time solution at center.
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | kobe8One wrote: | | Luke is holding him back so he doesn't get a big contract. Zu is very good and will transform into a legit center after few summers of weight training. He can easily score 16-18 points with a good PNR point guard and stay away from foul trouble. His BB skill is better than Randle. |
He can’t defend 15 feet from the basket, that doesn’t fit today. He can be another Chandler or McGee but not a full time solution at center. |
has he really been beaten so bad by opposing bigs on defense? I thought he has played well on both side of floor (more on offense yes) |
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| I sure hope the FO finds a way to keep him. I'd rather have Zu starting and/or getting more minutes than Chandler or McGee. If we can sign a better 2-way center than Zu, he would still make an ideal backup. |
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| Zu aint going nowhere; he has unfinished business in LA. He and LBJ are going to work together just fine. |
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lakersboy
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| pio2u wrote: | | Zu aint going nowhere; he has unfinished business in LA. He and LBJ are going to work together just fine. |
Agreed. It's bad business to tank, draft good players, and then let them walk away. Malinka incompetently gave away 2 serviceable players for zero compensation, and now it's time to show they value their home grown quality rather than to flush the toilet again. Someone's smart coach is going to have Zubac doing good things on the court. Hopefully our smart mgmt will allow Luke to be that guy. |
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Majinka must do everything they can Du Tu keep Zu. His play improves immensely with Rondo.
To me he has become the most untrade-able asset of the young core behind Kuzma. |
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It's bad business to tank, draft players, and then give them away/let them walk away and watch them flourish on other teams. That's kind of the opposite of what you want to do.
If Magilinka does that with Zubac that will make them 3 for 3 on giving up on talent that comes into their own faster than the people they assumed would be there by now.
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | kobe8One wrote: | | Luke is holding him back so he doesn't get a big contract. Zu is very good and will transform into a legit center after few summers of weight training. He can easily score 16-18 points with a good PNR point guard and stay away from foul trouble. His BB skill is better than Randle. |
He can’t defend 15 feet from the basket, that doesn’t fit today. He can be another Chandler or McGee but not a full time solution at center. |
So far this year, he's defended well against the league's best team's big and small ball centers.
He can score easily, consistently, and efficiently when one of the worst shooting teams in the league needs points. THAT fits today, and should be considered when deciding what's best for the team.
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Zu's really looking like a good player now, not just a fluke. Have to admit I was wrong on him. Heard him on 570am last week, he said his illness during camp slowed him down to start the season.
Luke should start Zu and give him a consistent 25 MPG. |
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| oldlakerfan wrote: | | Lazlow wrote: | | Jesusdelonla wrote: | | He is RFA or UFA? |
He's gone.
We aren't going to match the offers he is going to get. |
All they need to do is get him to wait until they spend their free agent money.
Don't want Magic Rob to screw Zubac up like they did Randle. |
Yep, we could use bird rights to go over the cap to sign him so technically we could match any offer for him. Unlike Randle, Zubac genuinely loves playing here so he'll wait for the Lakers. Hopefully, both parties will work things out.
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The fact that he’s automatic from the free throw line is a humongous plus. Can’t wait to see him playing 32 mins with rondo/LeBron back in the lineup
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