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PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2016 8:37 am    Post subject:

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Good attitude by Zubac. This is what we were saying preseason, that he'd need more reps with the DLeague. With Black/Nance possibly out, now he can get some reps with the NBA team, having got some playing time and rhythm with the Defenders. Working out nicely.

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"I wasn't playing anything with the Lakers, so it's better to stay [in the D-League] and get some minutes," Zubac said. "They wanted me to work on my game and stay in shape ... [coach] told me at the end of the year, he wants me to be five times better individually than I was at the beginning of the season."

Zubac helped the D-Fenders improve to 7-3, averaging 17.3 points and 8.5 rebounds over six games. The 19-year-old even hit half of his six three-point attempts, along with a few of his signature move, the sky hook.


He's frustrated about not getting touches, which is accurate if you've been watching the games. No one on that team knows how to throw a proper post entry pass to him:
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“If I get the ball I can score on everybody,” Zubac said after Saturday night’s loss. “But I didn’t get any post-ups. Sometimes my teammates don’t think I’m in a better position than them. A couple possession I was wide open, but sometimes it’s hard to make that decision in a game when you’re playing.”


I hope the d-league experiment ended as soon as it began. It's lord of the flies and everyone is trying to get that elusive NBA call-up. Only that elusive NBA call-up can be accomplished by playing more team oriented ball.


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2016 8:38 am    Post subject:

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yinoma2001 wrote:
Good attitude by Zubac. This is what we were saying preseason, that he'd need more reps with the DLeague. With Black/Nance possibly out, now he can get some reps with the NBA team, having got some playing time and rhythm with the Defenders. Working out nicely.

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"I wasn't playing anything with the Lakers, so it's better to stay [in the D-League] and get some minutes," Zubac said. "They wanted me to work on my game and stay in shape ... [coach] told me at the end of the year, he wants me to be five times better individually than I was at the beginning of the season."

Zubac helped the D-Fenders improve to 7-3, averaging 17.3 points and 8.5 rebounds over six games. The 19-year-old even hit half of his six three-point attempts, along with a few of his signature move, the sky hook.


He's frustrated about not getting touches, which is accurate if you've been watching the games. No one on that team knows how to throw a proper post entry pass to him:
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“If I get the ball I can score on everybody,” Zubac said after Saturday night’s loss. “But I didn’t get any post-ups. Sometimes my teammates don’t think I’m in a better position than them. A couple possession I was wide open, but sometimes it’s hard to make that decision in a game when you’re playing.”


They need to keep him as far away as possible from the d-league. It's lord of the flies and everyone is trying to make a name for themselves.


Regardless he's getting some rhythm back and now that Nance/Black may be out he can come into a game with some basketball rhythm. This was absolutely the right move to have play with the Defenders.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2016 8:43 am    Post subject:

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yinoma2001 wrote:
Good attitude by Zubac. This is what we were saying preseason, that he'd need more reps with the DLeague. With Black/Nance possibly out, now he can get some reps with the NBA team, having got some playing time and rhythm with the Defenders. Working out nicely.

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"I wasn't playing anything with the Lakers, so it's better to stay [in the D-League] and get some minutes," Zubac said. "They wanted me to work on my game and stay in shape ... [coach] told me at the end of the year, he wants me to be five times better individually than I was at the beginning of the season."

Zubac helped the D-Fenders improve to 7-3, averaging 17.3 points and 8.5 rebounds over six games. The 19-year-old even hit half of his six three-point attempts, along with a few of his signature move, the sky hook.


He's frustrated about not getting touches, which is accurate if you've been watching the games. No one on that team knows how to throw a proper post entry pass to him:
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“If I get the ball I can score on everybody,” Zubac said after Saturday night’s loss. “But I didn’t get any post-ups. Sometimes my teammates don’t think I’m in a better position than them. A couple possession I was wide open, but sometimes it’s hard to make that decision in a game when you’re playing.”


They need to keep him as far away as possible from the d-league. It's lord of the flies and everyone is trying to make a name for themselves.


Regardless he's getting some rhythm back and now that Nance/Black may be out he can come into a game with some basketball rhythm. This was absolutely the right move to have play with the Defenders.


I thought the right move would have been easing him into the rotation, not playing him rotation minutes when the injuries start piling up. NBA rep is different from d-league rep, so there will be an adjustment period for him. It reminds me of AB's situation last season. Recalled from the d-league only to start against Durant.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2016 8:45 am    Post subject:

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I thought the right move would have been easing him into the rotation, not playing him rotation minutes when the injuries start piling up. NBA rep is different from d-league rep, so there will be an adjustment period for him. It reminds me of AB's situation last season. Recalled from the d-league only to start against Durant.


Not with Moz/Black/small ball Randle or Nance.

Zub would get no PT and no rhythm.

Now we have injuries, so good time to re-insert with rhythm after playing in several Defender games.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2016 8:23 pm    Post subject:

I hope Zu gets as much PT as possible. Mop-up time or whatever, any playing time is better than none at all.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2016 8:27 pm    Post subject:

Good to see him on the floor.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2016 8:54 pm    Post subject:

He only got about 4 minutes of playing time but he clearly had a huge presence on the defensive end.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2016 9:01 pm    Post subject:

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I thought the right move would have been easing him into the rotation, not playing him rotation minutes when the injuries start piling up. NBA rep is different from d-league rep, so there will be an adjustment period for him. It reminds me of AB's situation last season. Recalled from the d-league only to start against Durant.


Not with Moz/Black/small ball Randle or Nance.

Zub would get no PT and no rhythm.

Now we have injuries, so good time to re-insert with rhythm after playing in several Defender games.


the small ball is crap and a gimmick. you cant play small ball with Randle as your center
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 08, 2016 4:49 am    Post subject:

This would have been an ideal game to get more than 4-5 minutes.
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yinoma2001 wrote:
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I thought the right move would have been easing him into the rotation, not playing him rotation minutes when the injuries start piling up. NBA rep is different from d-league rep, so there will be an adjustment period for him. It reminds me of AB's situation last season. Recalled from the d-league only to start against Durant.


Not with Moz/Black/small ball Randle or Nance.

Zub would get no PT and no rhythm.

Now we have injuries, so good time to re-insert with rhythm after playing in several Defender games.


the small ball is crap and a gimmick. you cant play small ball with Randle as your center


Yet the NBA is doing it. We were running it well when we had a full roster and everyone was healthy.
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I thought the right move would have been easing him into the rotation, not playing him rotation minutes when the injuries start piling up. NBA rep is different from d-league rep, so there will be an adjustment period for him. It reminds me of AB's situation last season. Recalled from the d-league only to start against Durant.


Not with Moz/Black/small ball Randle or Nance.

Zub would get no PT and no rhythm.

Now we have injuries, so good time to re-insert with rhythm after playing in several Defender games.


the small ball is crap and a gimmick. you cant play small ball with Randle as your center


Yet the NBA is doing it. We were running it well when we had a full roster and everyone was healthy.


Gsw: Dre green - spot candidate
Clippers: Jordan/Griffin
Spurs: Pau/lma
Nyk: Noah/porky
Minny:deng/Kat

You go small when u have the skill set. Randle doesn't know ABC's of basic defense, let alone play center and wipe out guard defensw
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 08, 2016 10:55 am    Post subject:

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You go small when u have the skill set. Randle doesn't know ABC's of basic defense, let alone play center and wipe out guard defensw



And you think that the way to correct that is to not ever let him play small ball defense?
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 08, 2016 11:04 am    Post subject:

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You go small when u have the skill set. Randle doesn't know ABC's of basic defense, let alone play center and wipe out guard defensw



And you think that the way to correct that is to not ever let him play small ball defense?


You have to understand that when Luke said this season was more about learning, what most people heard was 'the first 24 games'.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 08, 2016 11:49 am    Post subject:

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You go small when u have the skill set. Randle doesn't know ABC's of basic defense, let alone play center and wipe out guard defensw



And you think that the way to correct that is to not ever let him play small ball defense?


the guy doesn't even try to play defense for his own PF position. give me a break
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 08, 2016 1:04 pm    Post subject:

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Gsw: Dre green - spot candidate
Clippers: Jordan/Griffin
Spurs: Pau/lma
Nyk: Noah/porky
Minny:deng/Kat

You go small when u have the skill set. Randle doesn't know ABC's of basic defense, let alone play center and wipe out guard defense



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 08, 2016 1:43 pm    Post subject:

It's simple as that: as Anthony Brown, he's not NBA level material.
Gift him play time only to see Zubac destroyed is not changing anything, neither making Lg open-eyed dreams true.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 08, 2016 1:48 pm    Post subject:

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It's simple as that: as Anthony Brown, he's not NBA level material.
Gift him play time only to see Zubac destroyed is not changing anything, neither making Lg open-eyed dreams true.


Zubac is HOF material our C of the future, let's at least give him some playing time.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 08, 2016 2:55 pm    Post subject:

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It's simple as that: as Anthony Brown, he's not NBA level material.
Gift him play time only to see Zubac destroyed is not changing anything, neither making Lg open-eyed dreams true.


As opposed to Randle or Nance getting destroyed? Because that's what's happening right now. The defensive rankings haven't changed much this season, but it's approaching Byron-level efficiency right now. No one is making an active effort to deter shots in the paint.

Since AB is being brought up, here are his game-by-game minute numbers since he joined the pelicans:

7:48
2:42
8:31
9:58
21:47
25:27
19:12
29:22

Avg: 15.6 mpg

If he's playing 15 minutes a game, looks like he's earned himself rotation minutes (has a positive DBPM for them currently). Not sure why people keep saying he's not NBA caliber. A guy like that will always get time for defense alone.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 08, 2016 3:54 pm    Post subject:

L.A. D-Fenders ‏@DFenders

OFFICIAL: @ivicazubac has been re-assigned to the @DFenders and is expected to appear with the team in tonight's game versus Reno.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 08, 2016 4:21 pm    Post subject:

I hope they don't play yo yo with this kid. He is to talented for that. This kid is potentially a big part of our future.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 08, 2016 5:18 pm    Post subject:

KindCrippler2000 wrote:
rogers49 wrote:
It's simple as that: as Anthony Brown, he's not NBA level material.
Gift him play time only to see Zubac destroyed is not changing anything, neither making Lg open-eyed dreams true.


As opposed to Randle or Nance getting destroyed? Because that's what's happening right now. The defensive rankings haven't changed much this season, but it's approaching Byron-level efficiency right now. No one is making an active effort to deter shots in the paint.

Since AB is being brought up, here are his game-by-game minute numbers since he joined the pelicans:

7:48
2:42
8:31
9:58
21:47
25:27
19:12
29:22

Avg: 15.6 mpg

If he's playing 15 minutes a game, looks like he's earned himself rotation minutes (has a positive DBPM for them currently). Not sure why people keep saying he's not NBA caliber. A guy like that will always get time for defense alone.

Not saying he hasn't earned PT BUT the Pels have the injury bug too. I'm sure this has in someway contributed to AB3's playing time. jus' sayin.

NEW ORLEANS PELICANS:
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E'Twaun Moore SG Toe
Tyreke Evans PG Knee
Dante Cunningham SF
Quincy Pondexter SG
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 08, 2016 5:57 pm    Post subject:

Ivica Zubac Assigned To D-Fenders For Third Time This Season


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Zubac will suit up for the D-Fenders on tonight when they take on the visiting Reno Bighorns at the Toyota Sports Center in El Segundo. The 19-year-old has played well during his stint in the D-League this season averaging 17.3 points, 8.5 rebounds, 1.2 assists and 1.0 blocks per game.

http://www.lakersnation.com/lakers-news-ivica-zubac-assigned-to-d-fenders-for-third-time-this-season/2016/12/08/
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 08, 2016 9:46 pm    Post subject:

D-Fenders win.

Zubac fouled out in the 4th Qt.

12 points, 8 rebounds, 1 block
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 08, 2016 11:32 pm    Post subject:

D-Fenders 128 Big Horns - 118

* Highlights: Ivica Zubac (12 points) vs. the Bighorns

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"Coach Kobe..." O.o!!!
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