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PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2017 4:18 pm    Post subject:

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Kids is still a babyface. I wonder what he'll look like after a few seasons in THE GYM.

a baby face on top of a Terminator body??


And beard.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2017 5:27 pm    Post subject:

Happy Birthday Zu Zu!
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2017 5:43 pm    Post subject:

Happy birthday big Zu!

Down to only 1 teenager now. They grow up so fast.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2017 5:50 pm    Post subject:

I reckon Zu will become the best Croatian player over Bender and Zizic.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2017 7:10 pm    Post subject:

FreakofNature wrote:
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Happy Birthday, Zu!





Yep. CHEERS Big Zu!

Guess I'll drink Zu's beer too, since he's not old enough to drink yet!
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2017 7:14 pm    Post subject:

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When ZU gets at least 26 minutes per game, 6 of them thus far this season, overall average of 27 minutes, he is at 15.5PPG/9.7RPG1.5 blocks per game on %55 FG's.

Basically a 21/13 and 2 per 36 in those 6 games where he actually gets real time...... ....


So basically in games where he's playing well enough to get minutes he's playing well ? The per 36 stuff is half fools gold to begin with. Filter that extrapolation with another layer and you've got pretty bias results. Doesn't mean there isn't truth in it but not really proving anything.


Agreed, it is easy to cherry pick. So, let's do it one more time, last 5 games ( which even includes the 2 pt stinker against HOU ) :

14/6/1.4, 66 FG%, in 21 min

At 32 min projects to: 21/9/2
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2017 7:22 pm    Post subject:

TooMuchMajicBuss wrote:
FreakofNature wrote:
GoldenThroat wrote:
Happy Birthday, Zu!





Yep. CHEERS Big Zu!

Guess I'll drink Zu's beer too, since he's not old enough to drink yet!

Not until he gets back home for the summer.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2017 7:35 pm    Post subject:

Baron Von Humongous wrote:
TooMuchMajicBuss wrote:
FreakofNature wrote:
GoldenThroat wrote:
Happy Birthday, Zu!





Yep. CHEERS Big Zu!

Guess I'll drink Zu's beer too, since he's not old enough to drink yet!

Not until he gets back home for the summer.


HAPPY 20th BIRTHDAY ZUBLOCKA!!

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2017 8:11 pm    Post subject:

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FreakofNature wrote:
When ZU gets at least 26 minutes per game, 6 of them thus far this season, overall average of 27 minutes, he is at 15.5PPG/9.7RPG1.5 blocks per game on %55 FG's.

Basically a 21/13 and 2 per 36 in those 6 games where he actually gets real time...... ....


So basically in games where he's playing well enough to get minutes he's playing well ? The per 36 stuff is half fools gold to begin with. Filter that extrapolation with another layer and you've got pretty bias results. Doesn't mean there isn't truth in it but not really proving anything.


Agreed, it is easy to cherry pick. So, let's do it one more time, last 5 games ( which even includes the 2 pt stinker against HOU ) :

14/6/1.4, 66 FG%, in 21 min

At 32 min projects to: 21/9/2



Not just games he is playing well in, overall for the entire season, including games he barely played, in total for all games his per 36 this entire season is 17/10 with just over 2 blocks...

So in the games he got real minutes as I showed above, and in the last 5 including the 'stinker", and overall you can see the numbers are there.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2017 8:14 pm    Post subject:

Happy Birthday big ZU!!!!
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 19, 2017 4:16 pm    Post subject:

PER is a pretty useless stat but for the stat pad, check my stats lovers

Zubac leads the team with 17.49
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 19, 2017 5:20 pm    Post subject:

defense wrote:
PER is a pretty useless stat but for the stat pad, check my stats lovers

Zubac leads the team with 17.49


I don't find PER a useless stat at all. I believe it is not a reliable stat showing the player impact in the game, but is very good about how efficient a player is doing his thing.

Most advanced stats have some use in the right context.

By the way, post all star game his PER is 19.3
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 19, 2017 7:59 pm    Post subject:

Only 19 minutes tonight
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 19, 2017 8:01 pm    Post subject:

dcarter4kobe wrote:
Only 19 minutes tonight


On a night where the only player to give him any kind of trouble left the game.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 19, 2017 8:03 pm    Post subject:

ringfinger wrote:
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Only 19 minutes tonight


On a night where the only player to give him any kind of trouble left the game.

Luke flat out refuses to play him in the 4th. Which to me shows how strongly Luke feels about going small and makes investing so much money in a traditional C, like we did, even more inept.

Will be interesting to watch Zu's minutes next year.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 19, 2017 8:04 pm    Post subject:

defense wrote:
PER is a pretty useless stat but for the stat pad, check my stats lovers

Zubac leads the team with 17.49


Pace inflation has made me weary about trotting that stat around. It also does not factor in late game fatigue, which no player is impervious to. I do think it's useful for certain situations.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 19, 2017 8:04 pm    Post subject:

Stop playing so well Ivica

Luke don't like that
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 19, 2017 8:12 pm    Post subject:

Slow down folks, we are tanking and Zu was +2 in his 19 minutes when they still had a big fighting him. Luke is not going to risk the tank putting Zu against Love a poor defender. He let Dlo on the floor because Kyrie was taking back everything we got against him.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 19, 2017 8:13 pm    Post subject:

This guy is sneakily good.

Love his demeanor too. Just blue collar work horse. Quietly become a fan favorite.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 19, 2017 8:22 pm    Post subject:

dcarter4kobe wrote:
Only 19 minutes tonight



And yet again he gets 10/6/1, if Luke plays him 36 he goes for 19/11 and 2, and the lakers win...Luke is in a tank war, and as commander kept the game changer out...
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 19, 2017 8:23 pm    Post subject:

Laker_Town wrote:
This guy is sneakily good.

Love his demeanor too. Just blue collar work horse. Quietly become a fan favorite.
Solid player on both ends of the court. Plenty of upside too.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 19, 2017 8:35 pm    Post subject:

pio2u wrote:
Laker_Town wrote:
This guy is sneakily good.

Love his demeanor too. Just blue collar work horse. Quietly become a fan favorite.
:thumbsup: Solid player on both ends of the court. Plenty of upside too.


Blue collar workhorse, White collar skills
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 19, 2017 9:43 pm    Post subject:

If you guys are complaining about his minutes now just think of when Luke is starting Moz again early next season
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 19, 2017 10:38 pm    Post subject:

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If you guys are complaining about his minutes now just think of when Luke is starting Moz again early next season


Moz is here next season ? Don't tell me Deng is back too.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 6:47 am    Post subject:

zePokar wrote:
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If you guys are complaining about his minutes now just think of when Luke is starting Moz again early next season


Moz is here next season ? Don't tell me Deng is back too.


I like Zubac skillset better than Mozgov, but with a good PG Mozgov is not completely useless.

Deng may still be our best PF, the best defender for sure, but he provides some much needed space too, you may be surprised how he is in huge part of our most productive lineups.
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