That's a change. Pivot was always supposed to remain planted. So is this new? And it only applies in the post?
It's been this way for a while. Same for NCAA and high school.
Where the eff have I been?
Don't like that at all. But at least it's an actual rule rather than an interpretation or a look away. I've oft agreed that it's not new rules the game needs but rather a consistent enforcement on the existing rules. So at the very least, the hypocrisy doesn't exist here.
But thank you very much for taking the time to school me. _________________ We back.
That's a change. Pivot was always supposed to remain planted. So is this new? And it only applies in the post?
It's been this way for a while. Same for NCAA and high school.
Where the eff have I been?
Don't like that at all. But at least it's an actual rule rather than an interpretation or a look away. I've oft agreed that it's not new rules the game needs but rather a consistent enforcement on the existing rules. So at the very least, the hypocrisy doesn't exist here.
But thank you very much for taking the time to school me.
Have y'all been watching Lebron, Wade, Harden, etc.? If the refs were being technical they could literally call traveling on 50% of their moves. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals
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Posted: Tue May 09, 2017 7:47 am Post subject:
yinoma2001 wrote:
Have y'all been watching Lebron, Wade, Harden, etc.? If the refs were being technical they could literally call traveling on 50% of their moves.
I wish they would, honestly. Not because I dislike those players. But because I dislike hypocrisy. The refs blow their quickest whistles on centers for travelling. As far as travelling goes, it's gotten way out of hand. If they had called travelling on MJ & Pippen then like they do on centers now, it sure would have kept some legitimacy to the call itself. From the triple threat, there were few moves they didn't lift or drag their pivot. But, oh well. I'm a curmudgeon. _________________ We back.
Interesting points on the evolving Center position.
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Our perception of the center position needs to change. One thing that seems like a given, at least from the execs I’ve talked to, is that the league will keep getting smaller. I’m not sure how small, but more and more teams will follow Golden State’s formula. The Cavs essentially become a carbon copy of the Warriors when they put Love at center. The Celtics have their own B-grade version with Horford and Thomas serving as their Draymond and Stephen Curry.
There will always be superstar bigs like Anthony Davis, Karl-Anthony Towns, and Joel Embiid. There will be Defensive Player of the Year candidates like Draymond Green. The players I’m interested in are the guys like Horford and Love, who don’t put up big numbers because they aren’t asked to. Is the big man really dead? I don’t think so — they just look different than we’re used to. The NBA just evolved and demands them to be more complementary than featured.
Interesting points on the evolving Center position.
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Our perception of the center position needs to change. One thing that seems like a given, at least from the execs I’ve talked to, is that the league will keep getting smaller. I’m not sure how small, but more and more teams will follow Golden State’s formula. The Cavs essentially become a carbon copy of the Warriors when they put Love at center. The Celtics have their own B-grade version with Horford and Thomas serving as their Draymond and Stephen Curry.
There will always be superstar bigs like Anthony Davis, Karl-Anthony Towns, and Joel Embiid. There will be Defensive Player of the Year candidates like Draymond Green. The players I’m interested in are the guys like Horford and Love, who don’t put up big numbers because they aren’t asked to. Is the big man really dead? I don’t think so — they just look different than we’re used to. The NBA just evolved and demands them to be more complementary than featured.
That is why I think our roster is flawed, modern players can shoot and attack the basket scoring or drawing fouls.
We have big guys that can't shoot and guards that can't slash.
I would say we are "half good", but once all those non-shooters non-slashers are terrible defenders, our record is showing how good we are as a team.
Hayward and PG13 aren't superstars able to carry a franchise by themselves, but they are legit two way players without major flaws, I'd like to have players like them around our remaining young players to help stablishing a winning culture and good basketball habits.
This dude really had 7/5 in 16 minutes last season with a 17 PER.. 2nd round pick that's suppose to be a long term project _________________ “Life is too short. You have to keep it moving.” - Kobe
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Posted: Mon May 15, 2017 5:28 pm Post subject:
yinoma2001 wrote:
Interesting points on the evolving Center position.
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Our perception of the center position needs to change. One thing that seems like a given, at least from the execs I’ve talked to, is that the league will keep getting smaller. I’m not sure how small, but more and more teams will follow Golden State’s formula. The Cavs essentially become a carbon copy of the Warriors when they put Love at center. The Celtics have their own B-grade version with Horford and Thomas serving as their Draymond and Stephen Curry.
There will always be superstar bigs like Anthony Davis, Karl-Anthony Towns, and Joel Embiid. There will be Defensive Player of the Year candidates like Draymond Green. The players I’m interested in are the guys like Horford and Love, who don’t put up big numbers because they aren’t asked to. Is the big man really dead? I don’t think so — they just look different than we’re used to. The NBA just evolved and demands them to be more complementary than featured.
I think a decade ago, with the way he plays, Randle would be a small forward. We just automatically think of him as a power forward because we've gone with the shift in the goal posts. By this standard, big lumbering centers are what they are now - situational players. _________________ LakersGround's Terms of Service
Interesting points on the evolving Center position.
Quote:
Our perception of the center position needs to change. One thing that seems like a given, at least from the execs I’ve talked to, is that the league will keep getting smaller. I’m not sure how small, but more and more teams will follow Golden State’s formula. The Cavs essentially become a carbon copy of the Warriors when they put Love at center. The Celtics have their own B-grade version with Horford and Thomas serving as their Draymond and Stephen Curry.
There will always be superstar bigs like Anthony Davis, Karl-Anthony Towns, and Joel Embiid. There will be Defensive Player of the Year candidates like Draymond Green. The players I’m interested in are the guys like Horford and Love, who don’t put up big numbers because they aren’t asked to. Is the big man really dead? I don’t think so — they just look different than we’re used to. The NBA just evolved and demands them to be more complementary than featured.
I think a decade ago, with the way he plays, Randle would be a small forward. We just automatically think of him as a power forward because we've gone with the shift in the goal posts. By this standard, big lumbering centers are what they are now - situational players.
Just cause he's undersized doesn't mean he'd be a SF, he's like Lamar Odom. He doesn't have the agility or laterally movement ability to play SF full time.
Small Ball is the reason we're trying to play him at Center, but he's a PF regardless. _________________ “Life is too short. You have to keep it moving.” - Kobe
I think a decade ago, with the way he plays, Randle would be a small forward. We just automatically think of him as a power forward because we've gone with the shift in the goal posts. By this standard, big lumbering centers are what they are now - situational players.
With a jump shot I believe it is still the best position for him. He has the athleticism to run with any SF of this league and his short arms are not a limiting factor for him there.
I may not be right about that, but in the future if Randle develops a jump shot and Ingram bulks up they may end up switching positions.
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Posted: Mon May 15, 2017 6:09 pm Post subject:
LilJay24 wrote:
LakerSanity wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
Interesting points on the evolving Center position.
Quote:
Our perception of the center position needs to change. One thing that seems like a given, at least from the execs I’ve talked to, is that the league will keep getting smaller. I’m not sure how small, but more and more teams will follow Golden State’s formula. The Cavs essentially become a carbon copy of the Warriors when they put Love at center. The Celtics have their own B-grade version with Horford and Thomas serving as their Draymond and Stephen Curry.
There will always be superstar bigs like Anthony Davis, Karl-Anthony Towns, and Joel Embiid. There will be Defensive Player of the Year candidates like Draymond Green. The players I’m interested in are the guys like Horford and Love, who don’t put up big numbers because they aren’t asked to. Is the big man really dead? I don’t think so — they just look different than we’re used to. The NBA just evolved and demands them to be more complementary than featured.
I think a decade ago, with the way he plays, Randle would be a small forward. We just automatically think of him as a power forward because we've gone with the shift in the goal posts. By this standard, big lumbering centers are what they are now - situational players.
Just cause he's undersized doesn't mean he'd be a SF, he's like Lamar Odom. He doesn't have the agility or laterally movement ability to play SF full time.
Small Ball is the reason we're trying to play him at Center, but he's a PF regardless.
He has the agility and lateral movement _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023.
Just cause he's undersized doesn't mean he'd be a SF, he's like Lamar Odom. He doesn't have the agility or laterally movement ability to play SF full time.
Small Ball is the reason we're trying to play him at Center, but he's a PF regardless.
I think positions will be more interchangeable. Like dlo and jc both being combo guards, it will be the same at the forward positions with julius and tiny
My man Zu gonna be loving those lobs from DLO and now Ball next season.
Don't get me wrong, but lob and Dlo are two words that don't belong in the same sentence.
Dlo is going to find Ball and Ball is going to find Nance, Zubac, Ingram, Black, Brewer, Nwaba and JC, all very good alley oop finishers without a point guard able to complete 3 lob passes the entire season.
Russell is good shooting out of the PnR one of the Ball deficiencies and he is great finding shooters, if we keep Nick Young I believe we are going to see some Dlo, Ball and Nick lineups, but I can't remember Dlo throwing more than a couple of good lobs all the season.
My man Zu gonna be loving those lobs from DLO and now Ball next season.
Don't get me wrong, but lob and Dlo are two words that don't belong in the same sentence.
Dlo is going to find Ball and Ball is going to find Nance, Zubac, Ingram, Black, Brewer, Nwaba and JC, all very good alley oop finishers without a point guard able to complete 3 lob passes the entire season.
Russell is good shooting out of the PnR one of the Ball deficiencies and he is great finding shooters, if we keep Nick Young I believe we are going to see some Dlo, Ball and Nick lineups, but I can't remember Dlo throwing more than a couple of good lobs all the season.
Russell can teach Lonzo to throw a bounce pass and Lonzo can teach Russell how to throw a lob - synergy!
Monster jam, Nance is teaching him how one become a posterizing machine
Like father like son
...lol
From an individual standpoint I'm not as excited about Ball as a player as I'm about Fultz, but we have a chance to play an entertaining brand of basketball.
Ball, Dlo, Ingram and Zubac are high IQ players and willing passers, we have potential to be a great team moving the ball.
I remember when we got Pau, the ball just started to move from Kobe, to Lamar, to Pau, it was contagious until the year we finally defeated Boston. After that Kobe turned back to his old ways, but that three year span was one of the best times to root for our team.
Zu & Larry have competition in 3pt-ers at the end of every workout(100 attempts), Zu shoots over 50% and Larry over 60%. if they keep it up , they will be outside threats next season
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Posted: Fri May 19, 2017 5:44 am Post subject:
Baron Von Humongous wrote:
nash wrote:
Megaton wrote:
My man Zu gonna be loving those lobs from DLO and now Ball next season.
Don't get me wrong, but lob and Dlo are two words that don't belong in the same sentence.
Dlo is going to find Ball and Ball is going to find Nance, Zubac, Ingram, Black, Brewer, Nwaba and JC, all very good alley oop finishers without a point guard able to complete 3 lob passes the entire season.
Russell is good shooting out of the PnR one of the Ball deficiencies and he is great finding shooters, if we keep Nick Young I believe we are going to see some Dlo, Ball and Nick lineups, but I can't remember Dlo throwing more than a couple of good lobs all the season.
Russell can teach Lonzo to throw a bounce pass and Lonzo can teach Russell how to throw a lob - synergy!
DLO threw a ton of lobs to Sam Thompson in college. Hope he and Lonzo can find that synergy.
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