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PostPosted: Sat Jul 15, 2017 8:09 pm    Post subject:

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He's been disappointing, but I'll hold off on judgement until after training camp and the first few preseason games. Not looking good based on these games. Something happened to his mobility and lift over the course of the year, and I hypothesized it was the shift from a healthy Croatian diet to the standard American diet. He looks incredibly sluggish, despite the coaching staff saying he's been one of the hardest workers on the team.


I think the diet theory is pretty out there, who knows what he eats. We do know that he's training differently, hard workouts can drain your stamina at the beginning of a new regime. The guy has never really worked out before, that's much different than most American players. Be patient, it will pay off.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 15, 2017 8:12 pm    Post subject:

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He's been disappointing, but I'll hold off on judgement until after training camp and the first few preseason games. Not looking good based on these games. Something happened to his mobility and lift over the course of the year, and I hypothesized it was the shift from a healthy Croatian diet to the standard American diet. He looks incredibly sluggish, despite the coaching staff saying he's been one of the hardest workers on the team.


I think the diet theory is pretty out there, who knows what he eats. We do know that he's training differently, hard workouts can drain your stamina at the beginning of a new regime. The guy has never really worked out before, that's much different than most American players. Be patient, it will pay off.


True. It's just mindless extrapolation at this point. That being said, stuff like this isn't exactly a good start: https://twitter.com/ivicazubac/status/796511523862552576
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 15, 2017 8:22 pm    Post subject:

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KindCrippler2000 wrote:
He's been disappointing, but I'll hold off on judgement until after training camp and the first few preseason games. Not looking good based on these games. Something happened to his mobility and lift over the course of the year, and I hypothesized it was the shift from a healthy Croatian diet to the standard American diet. He looks incredibly sluggish, despite the coaching staff saying he's been one of the hardest workers on the team.


I think the diet theory is pretty out there, who knows what he eats. We do know that he's training differently, hard workouts can drain your stamina at the beginning of a new regime. The guy has never really worked out before, that's much different than most American players. Be patient, it will pay off.



True. It's just mindless extrapolation at this point. That being said, stuff like this isn't exactly a good start: https://twitter.com/ivicazubac/status/796511523862552576


I agree, it's always better to do well. Have faith, he'll be good again.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 15, 2017 8:31 pm    Post subject:

He just said post game he's adjusting to the pace of game, alot faster than Summer League last year. He plans to finish by dunking at rim more and work on speed for small ball.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 15, 2017 8:36 pm    Post subject:

It's not even about speed. JUST FINISH AT THE DAMN RIM!
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 15, 2017 8:39 pm    Post subject:

Megaton wrote:
It's not even about speed. JUST FINISH AT THE DAMN RIM!


He ain't even catch the ball doe.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 15, 2017 8:39 pm    Post subject:

he looks so much worse, weaker, slower, less skilled, just terrible, hopefully he is really healthy
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 15, 2017 9:31 pm    Post subject:

sell high?
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 15, 2017 9:41 pm    Post subject:

Had a nice block though. Not gonna overreact about Summer League though.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 15, 2017 9:58 pm    Post subject:

hes going against a six nine dude tomorrow, he should be destroying those dudes left and right, disappointing
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 15, 2017 10:38 pm    Post subject:

Didn't lift at all since the end of last year
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 15, 2017 11:00 pm    Post subject:

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hes going against a six nine dude tomorrow, he should be destroying those dudes left and right, disappointing


Game is just way too fast for him right now to take advantage of anything on the court. Zubac needs to shed 20 pounds
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 5:18 am    Post subject:

dood23 wrote:
sell high?


Zu & Deng for Robin Lopez
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 5:35 am    Post subject:

I know he hasn't looked good, but that is OK. I think he will be fine. The game is obviously called differently, fouls are abundant (especially hacks down low, players are always fresh (also young/hungry), and the play is fast in the Summer League.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 8:29 am    Post subject:

Those that gave up on him already, do us all a favor and don't jump back on during the regular season when/if he starts playing well again.


Another thing, is that he apparently also just lost his grandfather. So if you're wondering why his mind doesn't seem to be at Summer League that's something else to consider.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 8:31 am    Post subject:

That would explain a lot. His mind looks elsewhere.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 8:41 am    Post subject:

MJST wrote:
Those that gave up on him already, do us all a favor and don't jump back on during the regular season when/if he starts playing well again.


Another thing, is that he apparently also just lost his grandfather. So if you're wondering why his mind doesn't seem to be at Summer League that's something else to consider.


Thanks for the info MJST. You are 100% correct. Many will jump back on the Zu bandwagon just like many are already on the Magic bandwagon. He proved his worth the end of last season when he was really balling. I guess that a couple of Summer League games washes away his body of work from last year (when he was getting playing time). The kid is already a solid back up big.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 8:46 am    Post subject:

Zu is a great kid. Great sense of humor. Lakers were his favorite team growing up. He was so excited to be drafted by the Lakers. Last summer he was a fan favorite and played well in summer league. He's still very young. I am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt for now. I want to see how he performs in the pre season games.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 9:09 am    Post subject:

MJST wrote:
Another thing, is that he apparently also just lost his grandfather. So if you're wondering why his mind doesn't seem to be at Summer League that's something else to consider.


Didn't know that.
Losing his grandfather, not playing for Croatia... It explains a lot.

He'll get his (bleep) together. I have faith on this kid.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 9:15 am    Post subject:

He's adding more strength. He's been told to start going strong to the hoop but he's not there yet. Virtually every time he was near the rim last year he'd head fake, or step back. It's a big transition, one that's necessary, but requires a man's strength. Summer League is where you need to work on new things. Be patient, he'll be very good one day.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 9:53 am    Post subject:

I hate to pile on a good kid, zu's skill set does not translate well with our new point guard. He has 3 obvious disadvantages which most know. But he must become more aggressive. I can really see a trade involving zubac and nance for a 1st round pick in 2018 or another shooter depending on how fast Kuzma develops.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 9:56 am    Post subject:

I have tried to be patient with Zubac this summer, but he is damn near unplayable at this point in SL. I think this year in the NBA there is going to be a bigger shift in playing five out, and guys like Randle and Nance will be seeing the most minutes as backup center. It appears "small ball" will be around for a while longer and may have not even peaked.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 10:05 am    Post subject:

MJST wrote:
Not gonna overreact about Summer League though.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 10:10 am    Post subject:

captain jack wrote:
I hate to pile on a good kid, zu's skill set does not translate well with our new point guard. He has 3 obvious disadvantages which most know. But he must become more aggressive. I can really see a trade involving zubac and nance for a 1st round pick in 2018 or another shooter depending on how fast Kuzma develops.


You need someone who can set decent screens in this offense, though. Why his hands have been so bad seems entirely mental. He wasn't that way last season.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 4:49 pm    Post subject:

Nice, Zubby looks great
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