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PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2016 8:37 am    Post subject:

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Let's see what that grade looks like in 10 years.

Kind of hard to not get an A in a two player draft when you have the #2 pick. In this case, it is either an A or an F this early.


Well...it's been known to happen. Rarely, albeit....

....And with the 2nd pick in the 2003 NBA Draft, the Detroit Pistons select...

Dwyane Wade??? Nope.

Carmelo Anthony??? Try Again.

Chris Bosh??? Let's think outside the box here.

Darko Milecic!!!!


Exactly my point. Lakers at this point get an A for not going Darko Milecic!

And hopefully it is not a Peyton Manning/Ryan Leaf scenario.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2016 8:43 am    Post subject:

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encina1 wrote:
Let's see what that grade looks like in 10 years.

Kind of hard to not get an A in a two player draft when you have the #2 pick. In this case, it is either an A or an F this early.


Well...it's been known to happen. Rarely, albeit....

....And with the 2nd pick in the 2003 NBA Draft, the Detroit Pistons select...

Dwyane Wade??? Nope.

Carmelo Anthony??? Try Again.

Chris Bosh??? Let's think outside the box here.

Darko Milecic!!!!


Exactly my point. Lakers at this point get an A for not going Darko Milecic!

And hopefully it is not a Peyton Manning/Ryan Leaf scenario.


Ehh...just have fun with it. The grading system is nothing worth getting worked up over one way or the other.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2016 8:44 am    Post subject:

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encina1 wrote:
Let's see what that grade looks like in 10 years.

Kind of hard to not get an A in a two player draft when you have the #2 pick. In this case, it is either an A or an F this early.


Well...it's been known to happen. Rarely, albeit....

....And with the 2nd pick in the 2003 NBA Draft, the Detroit Pistons select...

Dwyane Wade??? Nope.

Carmelo Anthony??? Try Again.

Chris Bosh??? Let's think outside the box here.

Darko Milecic!!!!


Exactly my point. Lakers at this point get an A for not going Darko Milecic!

And hopefully it is not a Peyton Manning/Ryan Leaf scenario.


Ehh...just have fun with it. The grading system is nothing worth getting worked up over one way or the other.


Exactly. The fact we didn't F this up drafting a reach at #2 is worth commending.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2016 8:44 am    Post subject:

Spurs with the only A+. Watch them turn Murray into an all-star.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2016 8:45 am    Post subject:

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Spurs with the only A+. Watch them turn Murray into an all-star.


He's the new Tony Parker. Wouldn't be surprised.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2016 8:47 am    Post subject:

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Spurs with the only A+. Watch them turn Murray into an all-star.


He's the new Tony Parker. Wouldn't be surprised.


Yeah
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2016 9:09 am    Post subject:

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Spurs with the only A+. Watch them turn Murray into an all-star.


The Spurs could have picked my 30-year-old ass and gotten at worst a B+ grade. They just (rightfully) get the benefit of the doubt. But they have a lot of work to do with Murray who shoots like Jerryl Sasser.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2016 9:27 am    Post subject:

Mitch and company did a great job again. They have earned our trust as far as the draft goes
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2016 9:29 am    Post subject: Re: NBA Draft Report Card for Lakers

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Bleacher Report: A (overall)

Si.com: A (for Ingram)

CBS Sports: A (A+ for Ingram, A for Zubac).

Fox Sports: A-

USA Today: A for Ingram, A- for Zubac.

Amazing job Mitch and FO!!!


As usual!
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2016 10:44 am    Post subject:

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Mindripper2000 wrote:
Spurs with the only A+. Watch them turn Murray into an all-star.


The Spurs could have picked my 30-year-old ass and gotten at worst a B+ grade. They just (rightfully) get the benefit of the doubt. But they have a lot of work to do with Murray who shoots like Jerryl Sasser.


That's why this guy's gonna be great. Making non-shooters into great shooters is their MO
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2016 10:51 am    Post subject:

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I wasn't as impressed with the Celtics draft as the "experts" were, I felt they reached a lot on players....of course they could all turn out mostly aces, they have a good coach, but took a number of players at questionable spots...I still see them stuck as a middling team, who might be better record wise than us for a couple of years, but I think our overall trajectory looks much much better


The only good thing they did was to secure another 1st round pick in 2017 from Memphis. IMO that was a good move.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2016 10:56 am    Post subject:

Who won: Lakers, Sixers, Grizzlies and Spurs

Who Lost: Celtics, Kings and Hornets (they traded a 1st round for Belinelli! Really?)
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2016 11:00 am    Post subject:

KobeDunk wrote:
does picking #2 and taking Ingram even deserve a grade? I mean, how much more of a no brainer do you need? Zubac at#32 is an unknown so that grade is n/a as well IMO


If Zubac is unknown to you that says more about you and not the pick that the FO made. So an opinion based on the unknown really isn't much of an opinion.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2016 11:34 am    Post subject:

hoopschick29 wrote:
encina1 wrote:
Let's see what that grade looks like in 10 years.

Kind of hard to not get an A in a two player draft when you have the #2 pick. In this case, it is either an A or an F this early.


Well...it's been known to happen. Rarely, albeit....

....And with the 2nd pick in the 2003 NBA Draft, the Detroit Pistons select...

Dwyane Wade??? Nope.

Carmelo Anthony??? Try Again.

Chris Bosh??? Let's think outside the box here.

Darko Milecic!!!!


LOL< that was funny, yes Darkhole did suck: In the 96 games he played as a Piston, he only scored 152 points and averaged 1.6 points per game!

BUT: He was on the 2004 Pistons Team that beat the Lakers...ouch!
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2016 11:36 am    Post subject:

Please tell me the C's got an F.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2016 11:43 am    Post subject:

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Please tell me the C's got an F.
I really liked their move in consolidating 2nd rounders into a future first... then I found out it's heavily protected. No idea what they were doing.

Ainge's weakness is definitely in the draft.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2016 9:06 am    Post subject:

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I'm surprised that on a lot of these report cards, the Celtics got A+ grades



Uh WRONG!

Bleacher Report gave Celtics a B-
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2648454-nba-draft-grades-2016-full-list-of-scores-for-all-picks

SI.com gave Celtics a B
http://www.si.com/nba/2016/06/24/nba-draft-team-grades-lakers-bucks-76ers-celtics-timberwolves

CBS Sports gave Celtics a D+
http://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/2016-nba-draft-grades-how-each-team-finished-up-on-draft-night/

Fox Sports gave Celtics a A+ (but the person who gave the rating is their College Football/College Basketball guy)
www.foxsports.com/nba/story/2016-nba-draft-grades-winners-and-losers-062416

USA Today gave Celtics a B+
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nba/draft/2016/06/23/nba-draft-live-tracker-ben-simmons-brandon-ingram/86303580/
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2016 9:13 am    Post subject: Re: NBA Draft Report Card for Lakers

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Bleacher Report: A (overall)

Si.com: A (for Ingram)

CBS Sports: A (A+ for Ingram, A for Zubac).

Fox Sports: A-

USA Today: A for Ingram, A- for Zubac.

Amazing job Mitch and FO!!!


The Lakers took the no-brainer choice in Ingram. Zubac is a decent gamble for a second round pick. He might not play in the NBA for a couple of years, if at all, but he's as good a choice as anyone that late.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2016 9:15 am    Post subject:

Staccatos wrote:
lakerfan2012 wrote:
I'm surprised that on a lot of these report cards, the Celtics got A+ grades



Uh WRONG!

Bleacher Report gave Celtics a B-
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2648454-nba-draft-grades-2016-full-list-of-scores-for-all-picks

SI.com gave Celtics a B
http://www.si.com/nba/2016/06/24/nba-draft-team-grades-lakers-bucks-76ers-celtics-timberwolves

CBS Sports gave Celtics a D+
http://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/2016-nba-draft-grades-how-each-team-finished-up-on-draft-night/

Fox Sports gave Celtics a A+ (but the person who gave the rating is their College Football/College Basketball guy)
www.foxsports.com/nba/story/2016-nba-draft-grades-winners-and-losers-062416

USA Today gave Celtics a B+
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nba/draft/2016/06/23/nba-draft-live-tracker-ben-simmons-brandon-ingram/86303580/



People were all over the board about the Celtics. Some thought they had the best draft ever, getting all sorts of potential steals. Some thought that screwed up by not packaging those picks for a strong player, as a lot expected.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2016 9:15 am    Post subject:

encina1 wrote:
hoopschick29 wrote:
encina1 wrote:
Let's see what that grade looks like in 10 years.

Kind of hard to not get an A in a two player draft when you have the #2 pick. In this case, it is either an A or an F this early.


Well...it's been known to happen. Rarely, albeit....

....And with the 2nd pick in the 2003 NBA Draft, the Detroit Pistons select...

Dwyane Wade??? Nope.

Carmelo Anthony??? Try Again.

Chris Bosh??? Let's think outside the box here.

Darko Milecic!!!!


Exactly my point. Lakers at this point get an A for not going Darko Milecic!

And hopefully it is not a Peyton Manning/Ryan Leaf scenario.


At the time of the draft, picking Darko probably got an A+ grade. That's why its way too early for these report cards. Most players pretty much go at their expected slot.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2016 7:01 pm    Post subject:

activeverb wrote:
Staccatos wrote:
lakerfan2012 wrote:
I'm surprised that on a lot of these report cards, the Celtics got A+ grades



Uh WRONG!

Bleacher Report gave Celtics a B-
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2648454-nba-draft-grades-2016-full-list-of-scores-for-all-picks

SI.com gave Celtics a B
http://www.si.com/nba/2016/06/24/nba-draft-team-grades-lakers-bucks-76ers-celtics-timberwolves

CBS Sports gave Celtics a D+
http://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/2016-nba-draft-grades-how-each-team-finished-up-on-draft-night/

Fox Sports gave Celtics a A+ (but the person who gave the rating is their College Football/College Basketball guy)
www.foxsports.com/nba/story/2016-nba-draft-grades-winners-and-losers-062416

USA Today gave Celtics a B+
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nba/draft/2016/06/23/nba-draft-live-tracker-ben-simmons-brandon-ingram/86303580/



People were all over the board about the Celtics. Some thought they had the best draft ever, getting all sorts of potential steals. Some thought that screwed up by not packaging those picks for a strong player, as a lot expected.


I saw the Lakers in the "Winners" section of every "Draft Day Winners and Losers" column I pulled up.

I didn't see a single Celtic entry in the "Winners" sections I read, although I did not check Fox Sports. I did, however, see the Celtics in almost every "Losers" section.

Avid Blazer fans around me where I work - they were ALL scratching their heads at what the Celtics did, even one individual who thinks Danny Ainge is a great GM said they screwed up big time. EVERYONE grudgingly acknowledged the Lakers killed it in the draft. And these are Laker haters. This is as non-homer a crowd you're going to find as far as the Lakers are concerned.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2016 7:08 pm    Post subject:

Zubac was mocked at #16. What a steal at #32 !!
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2016 8:06 pm    Post subject:

LakersMD wrote:
Immediate post draft grades make for good conversation but are essentially meaningless and have no predictive value.


Lol
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2016 8:20 pm    Post subject:

Will Zubac be on our roster this season?

I say yes!
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2016 9:17 pm    Post subject:

LakersMD wrote:
Immediate post draft grades make for good conversation but are essentially meaningless and have no predictive value.


Actually they are ONLY good for predictive value and NOT necessarily a true indicator of actual or eventual value...
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