I've been watching a ton of Mozgov highlights the last week or so and drinking a lot. I'm starting to come around on him. He looks more mobile than people give him credit for and he looks great in the pick and roll game. Dude tries to dunk everything.
All of his highlights are presurgery _________________ "He's a Zen master, so he can speak to you, and he doesn't need a microphone; you can hear him in your head, 'Ron, don't shoot, don't shoot.' Whatever, pow, three. I love the Zen, though."
I've been watching a ton of Mozgov highlights the last week or so and drinking a lot. I'm starting to come around on him. He looks more mobile than people give him credit for and he looks great in the pick and roll game. Dude tries to dunk everything.
I never thought when the Lakers handed out those contracts that they expected both Deng & Mozgov to finish both.
That's the price we had to pay for a 17 win team to get some quality free agents. However, I don't really understand the doom and gloom behind the Mozgov deal. If you need to clear cap space, I don't think he's thaaaat hard to move. You could always amnesty.
I would have rather had Biyombo, but I don't think he's as good as I initially assumed. Biyombo to me is a backup center. That's what he was in Toronto and that's what he'll be in Orlando. _________________ Author of James Harden and the Strip Club
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its like combining brian cook and luke walton's contracts and then some. WE STUCK WITH THIS FOR 4 YEARS!!!
You're free to free to jump ship now. For all of those (bleep) about the years use your bleeping brains if they was in negotiations with Mozgov it's quite possibly that the 4 year was a deal breaker for him and Deng. They wanted to get financial security. We're in no position to turn down talent. These was obviously guys they targeted that filled needs.
What talent? Deng we can all understand. But Mozgov? He's one the worst if not the worst FA signings this summer.
How many Mozgov have you seen the last 2 years?
Koufos for one.. who is the 3rd string center on a team that just drafted a bunch more of them.
Lakers should have traded Lou Williams (who can't defend) for Koufos's great deal. Or just trade someone like Brown for Koufos. Would have been better than to cap tie the lakers up for 4 years 64 mil.
Koufos would be a steal...but I think his current team is probably aware of this fact.
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I have occasionally mentioned Koufos since last year as a nice player on a good contract. I like what he would add.
Only to be contested by multiple negative comments of how much he sucks and he is a marginal backup at best.
Face it, no matter who the Lakers added it would have generated complaining and comments of how stupid the Lakers were for signing "player X". The nature of how things are around here.
I will rely on the concept that Walton knows what he wants in a center. And Mozgov was the best available at the time.
I never thought when the Lakers handed out those contracts that they expected both Deng & Mozgov to finish both.
That's the price we had to pay for a 17 win team to get some quality free agents. However, I don't really understand the doom and gloom behind the Mozgov deal. If you need to clear cap space, I don't think he's thaaaat hard to move. You could always amnesty.
I would have rather had Biyombo, but I don't think he's as good as I initially assumed. Biyombo to me is a backup center. That's what he was in Toronto and that's what he'll be in Orlando.
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Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2016 11:29 am Post subject:
skin wrote:
ahaider wrote:
I never thought when the Lakers handed out those contracts that they expected both Deng & Mozgov to finish both.
That's the price we had to pay for a 17 win team to get some quality free agents. However, I don't really understand the doom and gloom behind the Mozgov deal. If you need to clear cap space, I don't think he's thaaaat hard to move. You could always amnesty.
I would have rather had Biyombo, but I don't think he's as good as I initially assumed. Biyombo to me is a backup center. That's what he was in Toronto and that's what he'll be in Orlando.
amnesty went away a long time ago
And it will almost certainly be back next year. _________________ “We must always take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented.” ― Elie Wiesel
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Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2016 11:31 am Post subject:
ahaider wrote:
I never thought when the Lakers handed out those contracts that they expected both Deng & Mozgov to finish both.
That's the price we had to pay for a 17 win team to get some quality free agents. However, I don't really understand the doom and gloom behind the Mozgov deal. If you need to clear cap space, I don't think he's thaaaat hard to move. You could always amnesty.
I would have rather had Biyombo, but I don't think he's as good as I initially assumed. Biyombo to me is a backup center. That's what he was in Toronto and that's what he'll be in Orlando.
I would rather have Biyombo as well. He is younger, faster and a very good defender. We need defenders on this team badly.
But I do agree that if he is healthy The Mozzer will do well on the offensive side of the ball in Luke's system, much more skilled than Biyombo will ever be.
I mainly hate the 4 guaranteed years. The guy is already slow and will only get slower and we will be stuck with him. You are right though, if it gets that bad we can amnesty him- assuming that we don't use that provision on a broken down Deng first.
I want this to work. Thank all of you for posting positive info about Mozzer. I want to believe! _________________ R.I.P. Doc Buss
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Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2016 11:32 am Post subject:
dcarter4kobe wrote:
Cochese wrote:
I've been watching a ton of Mozgov highlights the last week or so and drinking a lot. I'm starting to come around on him. He looks more mobile than people give him credit for and he looks great in the pick and roll game. Dude tries to dunk everything.
All of his highlights are presurgery
His surgery was for a non structural issue. _________________ “We must always take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented.” ― Elie Wiesel
Ease up on the big Moz....if he 'Hibbert's out', then we can bring the rain!!! _________________ "We might have had the worst season ever or could have the worst season ever for a Lakers team, but now let's have the greatest comeback that the league has ever seen." - Kobe Bryant
I've been watching a ton of Mozgov highlights the last week or so and drinking a lot. I'm starting to come around on him. He looks more mobile than people give him credit for and he looks great in the pick and roll game. Dude tries to dunk everything.
All of his highlights are presurgery
Oh really?
Thanks for posting the clip. If Mozgov can be "this" guy for the next two to three years it will be fine. Kind of dispels some of the immobile and bad hands complaints.
Sequence in the first 30 secs when he sets a screen 5ft beyond the 3pt line then trails for a rebound dunk shows more mobility then Hibbert did all last year.
Despite the cost and years, I am liking this signing. Just focusing on the player and how he helps the team on the floor.
I never thought when the Lakers handed out those contracts that they expected both Deng & Mozgov to finish both.
That's the price we had to pay for a 17 win team to get some quality free agents. However, I don't really understand the doom and gloom behind the Mozgov deal. If you need to clear cap space, I don't think he's thaaaat hard to move. You could always amnesty.
I would have rather had Biyombo, but I don't think he's as good as I initially assumed. Biyombo to me is a backup center. That's what he was in Toronto and that's what he'll be in Orlando.
Sigh. Finally. Mosgov was the only Starting Center that will come to LA.
Anyone have any updates or news about how his knee is doing? I understand it wasn't anything serious, but I'm still concerned given how much it hampered his game last season. Just curious if there is any information about how he is recovering.
Biyombo will force the Lakers play 4 on 5 on offense, on good days
Does anybody want to commit $25M per year to Whiteside as the leader of the young Laker players? With DWade and Bosh (probably) gone, do you think that Riles made a good decision of giving Whiteside the max contract
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Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2016 10:13 am Post subject:
Yes, I am going to be that guy. So Festus just signed a 2 year deal with the Blazers for $14.7 million.
Maybe Luke knows something we don't about Mozzer and Festus, but from where I am sitting, I would much rather have Festus on that deal than Mozzer on his. _________________ R.I.P. Doc Buss
Adrian Wojnarowski @WojVerticalNBA 1m1 minute ago
Sources: Nene deal: 1-year, $2.9M
More treats for the Mozgov haters to nibble on.
While TMo and I are having piña coladas on the beach.
Haters? Sorry (actually I'm not) if we feel that Mozgov getting 16 mil per year is ridiculous if players like Al Jefferson and Nene are getting far less.
He's a solid player, but not at that price. People say, "But, the Warriors and Spurs wanted him!" yeah, PROVE to me that they were willing to pay anywhere near what we paid for him and that we were in a bidding war against them. The spurs and warriors aren't that stupid to pay him that much. _________________ Dominating every day.
Adrian Wojnarowski @WojVerticalNBA 1m1 minute ago
Sources: Nene deal: 1-year, $2.9M
More treats for the Mozgov haters to nibble on.
While TMo and I are having piña coladas on the beach.
Haters? Sorry (actually I'm not) if we feel that Mozgov getting 16 mil per year is ridiculous if players like Al Jefferson and Nene are getting far less.
He's a solid player, but not at that price. People say, "But, the Warriors and Spurs wanted him!" yeah, PROVE to me that they were willing to pay anywhere near what we paid for him and that we were in a bidding war against them. The spurs and warriors aren't that stupid to pay him that much.
Adrian Wojnarowski @WojVerticalNBA 1m1 minute ago
Sources: Nene deal: 1-year, $2.9M
More treats for the Mozgov haters to nibble on.
While TMo and I are having piña coladas on the beach.
Haters? Sorry (actually I'm not) if we feel that Mozgov getting 16 mil per year is ridiculous if players like Al Jefferson and Nene are getting far less.
He's a solid player, but not at that price. People say, "But, the Warriors and Spurs wanted him!" yeah, PROVE to me that they were willing to pay anywhere near what we paid for him and that we were in a bidding war against them. The spurs and warriors aren't that stupid to pay him that much.
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