I've been thinking though, with rose's comments on them not knowing how to defend because they only defend triangle in practice
Maybe that's why we've always been so bad at stopping point guards from 2006-2011.
Well, we never practiced defense according to Payton if you recall.
We actually were bad at stopping point guards in the tail end of the Shaq years (see Troy, bibby) as well. We were instrumental in some PG's getting vastly overpaid for the era.
I've been thinking though, with rose's comments on them not knowing how to defend because they only defend triangle in practice
Maybe that's why we've always been so bad at stopping point guards from 2006-2011.
Well, we never practiced defense according to Payton if you recall.
We actually were bad at stopping point guards in the tail end of the Shaq years (see Troy, bibby) as well. We were instrumental in some PG's getting vastly overpaid for the era.
Aaron Brooks? He was a recipient of the Derek Fisher MoneyBags Scholarship.
I've been thinking though, with rose's comments on them not knowing how to defend because they only defend triangle in practice
Maybe that's why we've always been so bad at stopping point guards from 2006-2011.
Well, we never practiced defense according to Payton if you recall.
We actually were bad at stopping point guards in the tail end of the Shaq years (see Troy, bibby) as well. We were instrumental in some PG's getting vastly overpaid for the era.
Aaron Brooks? He was a recipient of the Derek Fisher MoneyBags Scholarship.
Troy Hudson as well.
Sure. I mentioned Troy . I was just throwing out some PG's during the Shaq/Kobe years that diced us up. Brooks single handedly made that first round a 7 game series.
Knicks are terrible. We're better than the Knicks. We're in a better position than the Knicks. (bleep) the Knicks. _________________ Music is my medicine
@IanBegley: Carmelo on Rambis as def. coach: "Whether we’re comfortable with it or not, it is what it is & we’ve got to buy into that & embrace that."
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That's the spirit Carmelo!
Can you believe the Lakers offered this guy a max contract? Thank God he didn't take it.
This is actually my biggest concern with our FO. why did we offer max contracts to carmelo, monroe, etc ???
Kobe was injured so they weren't sure whether he was done as an all-star. Even last season started like "If Kobe can play like a superstar, we have an outside shot at playoffs". And we had Byron as coach who had no vision unlike Luke who was keen on Mozgov due to the system he wanted to implement. _________________ Showtime 2.0
Knicks are awful, 3-6 and worse than their crosstown rivals, the freaking Nets whose big time acquisition over the summer was Jeremy Lin, who is injured now......
For the Lakers sake, lets hope Phil completes his contract with the Knicks so he won't mess with what we have now.
Dunno how Knicks flop PJ would be seen as a good choice for Lakers. That's why people like SAS sound so dumb. Mitch has made sure we have great depth by drafting Clarkson, Nance and Zubac outside the lottery. Black was another steal. Even Lou and Nick looking good value for their contracts. _________________ Showtime 2.0
Phil did an interview recently where he talks about the state of the Knicks, teams he's impressed with, and taking over the Lakers. A lot of it still reads like lip service, so read into it what you will:
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JM: Which NBA teams impress you?
PJ: It's obvious Golden State plays a game in which people move the ball, they move themselves, they are creating passing lanes, they get penetration, they hit the open man, they set picks. They get a little wild, but Steve (Kerr) does a really fine job of keeping everyone in their lanes, so to speak. He's a really fine coach with a great command of the game. That "feel" for basketball is so important.
Could be relevant to hear his thoughts on the Warriors since Luke is running a system inspired by what Kerr runs.
Quote:
JM: Lakers executive vice president of basketball operations Jim Buss said if the Lakers didn't make it to the Western Conference finals by 2017, he would step down. It's unlikely the Lakers will meet that goal. Why not go back and run your old team?
PJ: They're moving forward in the right direction. Luke (Walton) has them engaged, Brian (Shaw) is an associate head coach; they have a core group of guys that will get it done. It was never important to me to go back and be a part of that. Especially not now. I have this job, this commitment.
JM: Then why bother to include the opt-out clause?
PJ: The real issue with the opt out was simply my rationale regarding the (potential) lockout. If it was going to happen in December and everybody chose to walk away, there was no way I was going to sit in New York for three, four months when I didn't have a job, because (the players) aren't even allowed to show up to work. So, in that case, I would go back to L.A.
I knew before the season the knicks would suck. When you have "me-first" players like Rose and Melo, who by the way, are perennial losers most seasons, what do you expect?
Rose is playing for his next contract and has this arrogance like he's still a great player, and melo has the same issues. neither plays D.
That team will be blown up in 1-2 years and Phil will step down. Book it. _________________ Dominating every day.
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Chronicle wrote:
I've been thinking though, with rose's comments on them not knowing how to defend because they only defend triangle in practice
Maybe that's why we've always been so bad at stopping point guards from 2006-2011.
Well, we never practiced defense according to Payton if you recall.
We actually were bad at stopping point guards in the tail end of the Shaq years (see Troy, bibby) as well. We were instrumental in some PG's getting vastly overpaid for the era.
Ron Harper was a beast those first two years. _________________ We back.
I knew before the season the knicks would suck. When you have "me-first" players like Rose and Melo, who by the way, are perennial losers most seasons, what do you expect?
Rose is playing for his next contract and has this arrogance like he's still a great player, and melo has the same issues. neither plays D.
That team will be blown up in 1-2 years and Phil will step down. Book it.
Not to mention these are players that are no longer in their prime years. So yes, major suckage was expected despite the big names on paper.
I knew before the season the knicks would suck. When you have "me-first" players like Rose and Melo, who by the way, are perennial losers most seasons, what do you expect?
Rose is playing for his next contract and has this arrogance like he's still a great player, and melo has the same issues. neither plays D.
That team will be blown up in 1-2 years and Phil will step down. Book it.
Not to mention these are players that are no longer in their prime years. So yes, major suckage was expected despite the big names on paper.
The Knicks' problem is that they've never had the stomach for a rebuild, and appear unable to learn from the multiple bullet holes in their own feet. _________________ 14-5-3-12
I knew before the season the knicks would suck. When you have "me-first" players like Rose and Melo, who by the way, are perennial losers most seasons, what do you expect?
Rose is playing for his next contract and has this arrogance like he's still a great player, and melo has the same issues. neither plays D.
That team will be blown up in 1-2 years and Phil will step down. Book it.
Not to mention these are players that are no longer in their prime years. So yes, major suckage was expected despite the big names on paper.
The Knicks' problem is that they've never had the stomach for a rebuild, and appear unable to learn from the multiple bullet holes in their own feet.
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At least PJ got them Porzingis and will leave the next VP him to build around. PJ learned being in a team managing position is much different than coaching.
I knew before the season the knicks would suck. When you have "me-first" players like Rose and Melo, who by the way, are perennial losers most seasons, what do you expect?
Rose is playing for his next contract and has this arrogance like he's still a great player, and melo has the same issues. neither plays D.
That team will be blown up in 1-2 years and Phil will step down. Book it.
Not to mention these are players that are no longer in their prime years. So yes, major suckage was expected despite the big names on paper.
The Knicks' problem is that they've never had the stomach for a rebuild, and appear unable to learn from the multiple bullet holes in their own feet.
I don't get it....they've had a lot and I mean a lot of mediocre years even when they weren't rebuilding. A full rebuild would at least make the pain worthwhile.
How many GMs need to have a "clear the air" meeting with their players? lol
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@IanBegley
Meeting w/players, coaches & Phil lasted about an hour. Did Phil talk? "Nah, he actually just listened this time. Which is good," Melo said.
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Phil Jackson wanted to see more triangle offense (or he didn’t), but either way the players are chafing against that offense. Derrick Rose is not a triangle point guard, he wants to get going downhill of the pick. The Knicks spent $72 million on Joakim Noah to play center, but have looked better with Kristaps Porzingis at the five (although in such small numbers it’s hard to know for sure). Carmelo Anthony didn’t like Jackson’s comments about LeBron’s “posse.”
There’s been a push and pull between the style the Knicks players want and what management wants to see — one that came to a head after an ugly loss to the Wizards Thursday. It led to a team meeting with Jackson, reports Ian Begley of ESPN.
I knew before the season the knicks would suck. When you have "me-first" players like Rose and Melo, who by the way, are perennial losers most seasons, what do you expect?
Rose is playing for his next contract and has this arrogance like he's still a great player, and melo has the same issues. neither plays D.
That team will be blown up in 1-2 years and Phil will step down. Book it.
Not to mention these are players that are no longer in their prime years. So yes, major suckage was expected despite the big names on paper.
The Knicks' problem is that they've never had the stomach for a rebuild, and appear unable to learn from the multiple bullet holes in their own feet.
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. I was just throwing out some PG's during the Shaq/Kobe years that diced us up. Brooks single handedly made that first round a 7 game series.
