|
| View previous topic :: View next topic |
| Should we trade for Westbrook? |
| Yes. Can't pass him up and assume he comes. |
|
19% |
[ 91 ] |
| No. Free agent in 2018. |
|
80% |
[ 373 ] |
|
| Total Votes : 464 |
|
| Author |
Message |
pjiddy
Retired Number
Joined: 12 Dec 2005
Posts: 29077
|
 Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2016 11:11 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| yinoma2001 wrote: | | LakerLanny wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: |
Why would we care if it were luck or skill? Either way the team is looking to be moving in the right direction. Of course we could have been lucky and unskilled and drafted someone like Okafor and/or Jaylen Brown, neither who I think will come close to touching Russell and Ingram. |
Why should we care? Isn't that answer obvious?
Okafor was first team all rookie, Russell wasn't so time will tell on that. As far as Jaylen Brown, I have no idea what you are babbling about or why you are even bringing him up.
Face the facts, the team as constructed by Mitch has been atrocious the last three seasons and he was very fortunate to even get the reward for the dismal teams he put together and told us were playoff teams. |
I see you have Kobe as your avatar. You genuinely thought when the Lakers committed to keeping him and not Dwayne Wade-ing him ala Pat Riley, that they were going to be playoff contenders? |
FWIW...from 10/19/14
| LakerLanny wrote: | | A better move would be to wait and completely bottom out, nothing is going to happen until Kobe's contract is off the books and he either retires or comes back at a much lower price. |
http://forums.lakersground.net/viewtopic.php?p=5988271&highlight=#5988271
Somewhere along the way your boy got retroactively impatient/disgusted with Mitch's roster construction. |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
Runway8
Franchise Player
Joined: 19 Apr 2003
Posts: 22853
Location: La Jolla, San Diego
|
| Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2016 12:13 am Post subject: |
|
|
| LakerLanny wrote: | | 2019 wrote: | the good news in all this is that we actually have the pieces/ability to trade for a top 3 player in the NBA.
Stark contrast from just 2-3 years ago. |
27, 21, 17 and they had to dodge ping pong balls to boot.
Don't mistake being a horrific team and then getting lucky for skill. |
I always say coaches are overrated because they get too much credit, and too much blame. I'd like to add management to that. A flip of the coin by fate decided that the Lakers will be the team of the 80's, thus, cemented their brand. Honestly, without Magic, there would probably be no Shaq. Pat Riley and Jerry West's careers wouldn't have been launched either. LUCK decides so much about a franchise that really it's a joke to argue it if you really truly sit down and think about it. The Jerrys in Chicago said management build championship teams, not players. Remember that? What did their organization win before MJ? What has their organization won after MJ? And how did they get MJ? Two teams passed him up, and he fell on their laps.
I don't care how the Lakers have gotten here, just like how I don't care how they got Magic and Worthy. Bottom line is that they're here, and if it's by luck, so be it. This isn't the first time the lakers have gotten lucky. Just as long as they know what they have and don't trade it away like idiots then I'm happy. I have this attitude because I've never ever subscribed to the genius of management or coaches. I've always known that it's pure luck how a franchise is MADE.
BTW, while we're somewhat on topic.. Is Magic Johnson freaking unbelievable or what? The guy catapulted the Lakers franchise in the 80's, and so many individual careers, delivered 5 chips, beat the crap out of HIV, and proceeded to win in the business world as well. I don't think Laker fans who ridicule him really give it much thought to what this guy has meant to the Lakers, and how awesome he is. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Chronicle
Retired Number
Joined: 21 Jul 2012
Posts: 31935
Location: Manhattan
|
| Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2016 12:55 am Post subject: |
|
|
| Runway8 wrote: | | LUCK decides so much about a franchise that really it's a joke to argue it if you really truly sit down and think about it. The Jerrys in Chicago said management build championship teams, not players. Remember that? What did their organization win before MJ? What has their organization won after MJ? And how did they get MJ? Two teams passed him up, and he fell on their laps. |
I mean I get your point, but "how did they get MJ" - because other teams passed on them. That's management, not luck
_________________
Kobe |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Judah
Star Player
Joined: 23 Jun 2015
Posts: 4759
|
| Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2016 2:17 am Post subject: |
|
|
| LakerLanny wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: |
Why would we care if it were luck or skill? Either way the team is looking to be moving in the right direction. Of course we could have been lucky and unskilled and drafted someone like Okafor and/or Jaylen Brown, neither who I think will come close to touching Russell and Ingram. |
Why should we care? Isn't that answer obvious?
Okafor was first team all rookie, Russell wasn't so time will tell on that. As far as Jaylen Brown, I have no idea what you are babbling about or why you are even bringing him up.
Face the facts, the team as constructed by Mitch has been atrocious the last three seasons and he was very fortunate to even get the reward for the dismal teams he put together and told us were playoff teams. |
lol......
Had the Lakers drafted him, how long do you think Okafor would've lasted in Byron's starting lineup? Russell would've been contending for ROY if he had ended up in Philly.
_________________
“Christ did not die to forgive sinners who go on treasuring anything above seeing and savoring God. And people who would be happy in heaven if Christ were not there, will not be there."
- John Piper |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
dood23
Franchise Player
Joined: 16 Jun 2010
Posts: 12084
|
| Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2016 2:24 am Post subject: |
|
|
| LakerLanny wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: |
Why would we care if it were luck or skill? Either way the team is looking to be moving in the right direction. Of course we could have been lucky and unskilled and drafted someone like Okafor and/or Jaylen Brown, neither who I think will come close to touching Russell and Ingram. |
Why should we care? Isn't that answer obvious?
Okafor was first team all rookie, Russell wasn't so time will tell on that. As far as Jaylen Brown, I have no idea what you are babbling about or why you are even bringing him up. |
Neither did Giannis or Paul George but time will tell on that. 
Media members vote on that recognition. Time doesn't have to tell you that the media generally sucks 
_________________
"There's only 2 dudes better than me, and I'm BOTH OF THEM." |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
dabask11
Star Player
Joined: 27 Dec 2012
Posts: 1989
|
| Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2016 5:33 am Post subject: |
|
|
| dood23 wrote: | | LakerLanny wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: |
Why would we care if it were luck or skill? Either way the team is looking to be moving in the right direction. Of course we could have been lucky and unskilled and drafted someone like Okafor and/or Jaylen Brown, neither who I think will come close to touching Russell and Ingram. |
Why should we care? Isn't that answer obvious?
Okafor was first team all rookie, Russell wasn't so time will tell on that. As far as Jaylen Brown, I have no idea what you are babbling about or why you are even bringing him up. |
Neither did Giannis or Paul George but time will tell on that.
Media members vote on that recognition. Time doesn't have to tell you that the media generally sucks |
Don't forget about that kid we drafted in 96. He sure turned out horrible for someone who made 2nd team as a rookie. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
jonnybravo
Retired Number
Joined: 21 Sep 2007
Posts: 30710
|
| Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2016 6:36 am Post subject: |
|
|
| pjiddy wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | LakerLanny wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: |
Why would we care if it were luck or skill? Either way the team is looking to be moving in the right direction. Of course we could have been lucky and unskilled and drafted someone like Okafor and/or Jaylen Brown, neither who I think will come close to touching Russell and Ingram. |
Why should we care? Isn't that answer obvious?
Okafor was first team all rookie, Russell wasn't so time will tell on that. As far as Jaylen Brown, I have no idea what you are babbling about or why you are even bringing him up.
Face the facts, the team as constructed by Mitch has been atrocious the last three seasons and he was very fortunate to even get the reward for the dismal teams he put together and told us were playoff teams. |
I see you have Kobe as your avatar. You genuinely thought when the Lakers committed to keeping him and not Dwayne Wade-ing him ala Pat Riley, that they were going to be playoff contenders? |
FWIW...from 10/19/14
| LakerLanny wrote: | | A better move would be to wait and completely bottom out, nothing is going to happen until Kobe's contract is off the books and he either retires or comes back at a much lower price. |
http://forums.lakersground.net/viewtopic.php?p=5988271&highlight=#5988271
Somewhere along the way your boy got retroactively impatient/disgusted with Mitch's roster construction. |
Ouch, receipt. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
pio2u
Retired Number
Joined: 26 Dec 2012
Posts: 54624
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
nash
Star Player
Joined: 23 Oct 2001
Posts: 8194
|
| Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2016 7:32 am Post subject: |
|
|
| Judah wrote: | | LakerLanny wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: |
Why would we care if it were luck or skill? Either way the team is looking to be moving in the right direction. Of course we could have been lucky and unskilled and drafted someone like Okafor and/or Jaylen Brown, neither who I think will come close to touching Russell and Ingram. |
Why should we care? Isn't that answer obvious?
Okafor was first team all rookie, Russell wasn't so time will tell on that. As far as Jaylen Brown, I have no idea what you are babbling about or why you are even bringing him up.
Face the facts, the team as constructed by Mitch has been atrocious the last three seasons and he was very fortunate to even get the reward for the dismal teams he put together and told us were playoff teams. |
lol......
Had the Lakers drafted him, how long do you think Okafor would've lasted in Byron's starting lineup? Russell would've been contending for ROY if he had ended up in Philly. |
Last season our starting center was Roy while Russell was fighting for a position with Lou, so it's about Lou vs Roy. Who you replace? |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
yinoma2001
Retired Number
Joined: 19 Jun 2010
Posts: 119487
|
| Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2016 7:43 am Post subject: |
|
|
So listened to a long podcast with Royce Young + Danny Leroux re: OKC.
Seems OKC's goal is to offer the extension, which would probably give WB to hit FA again once he hits the 10+ years experience tier and cash out to something like a $200m+ deal. If he takes it, good; if not, then he's basically telling them that he is unlikely to re-sign there b/c the $ difference isn't substantial enough.
I think WB won't extend, but the trade market may be less than generous for WB b/c he won't extend anywhere he goes, and the price for getting him will be too pyrrhic.
As for the Lakers, I doubt we make a play for him. When we traded for Howard/Nash, we were playoff contenders and it made sense to go for the jugular.
Get WB, emptying out one of DLO/Ingram + other assets makes no sense b/c it won't guarantee us a playoff spot in 2016-17. Signing him as a FA in 2017 is a risk, but we'd have a much better future outlook with him AND our young core.
_________________
From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Judah
Star Player
Joined: 23 Jun 2015
Posts: 4759
|
| Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2016 11:29 am Post subject: |
|
|
| nash wrote: | | Judah wrote: | | LakerLanny wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: |
Why would we care if it were luck or skill? Either way the team is looking to be moving in the right direction. Of course we could have been lucky and unskilled and drafted someone like Okafor and/or Jaylen Brown, neither who I think will come close to touching Russell and Ingram. |
Why should we care? Isn't that answer obvious?
Okafor was first team all rookie, Russell wasn't so time will tell on that. As far as Jaylen Brown, I have no idea what you are babbling about or why you are even bringing him up.
Face the facts, the team as constructed by Mitch has been atrocious the last three seasons and he was very fortunate to even get the reward for the dismal teams he put together and told us were playoff teams. |
lol......
Had the Lakers drafted him, how long do you think Okafor would've lasted in Byron's starting lineup? Russell would've been contending for ROY if he had ended up in Philly. |
Last season our starting center was Roy while Russell was fighting for a position with Lou, so it's about Lou vs Roy. Who you replace? |
But how likely is it that they would've even traded for Roy if they had drafted Okafor? Hibbert was just their big man Plan C- after they struck out in free agency. But even in the unlikely event that they STILL would've traded for him, even after drafting Okafor, it would've been the same pathetic narrative situationally that Russell was in under Byron.
Okafor would've been scapegoated with all of the young players for the team's failures and gotten yanked from the starting lineup in mid December for Hibbert. And even if Hibbert had played dramatically worse than Okafor, his vet card would've made Byron feel a lot more comfortable about his suckage, even with the team boasting a 2-34 record, Okafor's minutes being hacked to pieces, and the season going absolutely nowhere.
The point is that it's a shallow argument to imply Okafor is a better overall player than Russell or that he had a better season just because he was first team all rookie and Russell wasn't. I'm very convinced that Okafor's rookie season would've been an utter train wreck under Byron, while Russell would've had a substantially better chance to show what he's capable of if he had been in Philly.
SN: Not trying to hijack this thread into another Okafor vs Russell debate. I just couldn't let Lanny's statement pass.
_________________
“Christ did not die to forgive sinners who go on treasuring anything above seeing and savoring God. And people who would be happy in heaven if Christ were not there, will not be there."
- John Piper |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Runway8
Franchise Player
Joined: 19 Apr 2003
Posts: 22853
Location: La Jolla, San Diego
|
| Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2016 12:42 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| Chronicle wrote: | | Runway8 wrote: | | LUCK decides so much about a franchise that really it's a joke to argue it if you really truly sit down and think about it. The Jerrys in Chicago said management build championship teams, not players. Remember that? What did their organization win before MJ? What has their organization won after MJ? And how did they get MJ? Two teams passed him up, and he fell on their laps. |
I mean I get your point, but "how did they get MJ" - because other teams passed on them. That's management, not luck |
That's still a little luck involved because he turned out to be the GOAT. If you knew that, you would take him first. Who knows what name was #1 on Chicago's draft board. He was there for them at 3, but credit to them for not passing him up at 3. Their franchise does not stand out pre or post MJ era. They are on a 20 yr drought since MJ, and nobody gives them any flack. We're on a 6 year drought and even a portion of our own fanbase subscribe to the ideal tha our management haven't a clue what they're doing. What does that say about Chicago and the plethora of teams that have won squat? There must be a bunch of idiots running NBA franchises. Or maybe, just maybe fans and media overrate management. There is really no science to this thing. Well, let me rephrase that and give them some credit.. there is very "little" science running a franchise. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
LAKERMIKE2
Star Player
Joined: 26 Oct 2005
Posts: 2080
Location: Jack's Crib
|
| Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2016 1:43 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Can you people relax & stop this nonsense!
We just got rid of one ball hog (Kobe) & you want another in WB, geez! He is not the answer at age 29 & just a hindrance for team play & unity. Harden would be worst, but a Paul George type team guy would be great.
Laker management needs to allow these young kids to play together for two years & then decide who to sign or trade for if things don't work out, gotta give Luke a chance to gel this team of young guys...
Who knows in a few years when we improve a certain center from Minnesota may want to join forces when he's a free agent & move to LA? That would be quite a line up & eventually a expensive one at that...
_________________
My Laker squad.
Mr. Clutch, Nixon, Eddie, Nick, Magic, Kareem,
Silk, Cooper, AC, Worthy, Horry, Shaq, Kobe.
HC: Riley |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
yinoma2001
Retired Number
Joined: 19 Jun 2010
Posts: 119487
|
| Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2016 2:01 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| LAKERMIKE2 wrote: | Can you people relax & stop this nonsense!
We just got rid of one ball hog (Kobe) & you want another in WB, geez! He is not the answer at age 29 & just a hindrance for team play & unity. Harden would be worst, but a Paul George type team guy would be great.
Laker management needs to allow these young kids to play together for two years & then decide who to sign or trade for if things don't work out, gotta give Luke a chance to gel this team of young guys...
Who knows in a few years when we improve a certain center from Minnesota may want to join forces when he's a free agent & move to LA? That would be quite a line up & eventually a expensive one at that... |
It will be 7 to 8 years. a
_________________
From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Jim99187
Franchise Player
Joined: 03 Jan 2014
Posts: 22138
|
| Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2016 3:40 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| yinoma2001 wrote: | So listened to a long podcast with Royce Young + Danny Leroux re: OKC.
Seems OKC's goal is to offer the extension, which would probably give WB to hit FA again once he hits the 10+ years experience tier and cash out to something like a $200m+ deal. If he takes it, good; if not, then he's basically telling them that he is unlikely to re-sign there b/c the $ difference isn't substantial enough.
I think WB won't extend, but the trade market may be less than generous for WB b/c he won't extend anywhere he goes, and the price for getting him will be too pyrrhic.
As for the Lakers, I doubt we make a play for him. When we traded for Howard/Nash, we were playoff contenders and it made sense to go for the jugular.
Get WB, emptying out one of DLO/Ingram + other assets makes no sense b/c it won't guarantee us a playoff spot in 2016-17. Signing him as a FA in 2017 is a risk, but we'd have a much better future outlook with him AND our young core. |
Thanks Yinomes. No DLO/Ingram in any RW talks. I can throw in Randle and see. take it or leave it
would be Awesome : RW, DR, Ingram,nance,zubac |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
GoldenThroat
Moderator
Joined: 25 Jul 2005
Posts: 37474
|
| Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2016 3:50 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| pjiddy wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | LakerLanny wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: |
Why would we care if it were luck or skill? Either way the team is looking to be moving in the right direction. Of course we could have been lucky and unskilled and drafted someone like Okafor and/or Jaylen Brown, neither who I think will come close to touching Russell and Ingram. |
Why should we care? Isn't that answer obvious?
Okafor was first team all rookie, Russell wasn't so time will tell on that. As far as Jaylen Brown, I have no idea what you are babbling about or why you are even bringing him up.
Face the facts, the team as constructed by Mitch has been atrocious the last three seasons and he was very fortunate to even get the reward for the dismal teams he put together and told us were playoff teams. |
I see you have Kobe as your avatar. You genuinely thought when the Lakers committed to keeping him and not Dwayne Wade-ing him ala Pat Riley, that they were going to be playoff contenders? |
FWIW...from 10/19/14
| LakerLanny wrote: | | A better move would be to wait and completely bottom out, nothing is going to happen until Kobe's contract is off the books and he either retires or comes back at a much lower price. |
http://forums.lakersground.net/viewtopic.php?p=5988271&highlight=#5988271
Somewhere along the way your boy got retroactively impatient/disgusted with Mitch's roster construction. |
That's quite the receipt.
So we bottom out, add Randle, Clarkson, Russell, Nance, Ingram, & Zubac, and somehow the FO still screwed up. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Hector the Pup
Retired Number
Joined: 25 Jul 2002
Posts: 35946
Location: L.A.
|
| Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2016 8:09 am Post subject: |
|
|
| Take a look at some of the other names folks were asking for in that thread. They might look familiar. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
LakerLanny
Retired Number
Joined: 24 Oct 2001
Posts: 47581
|
| Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2016 7:11 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| GoldenThroat wrote: |
That's quite the receipt.
So we bottom out, add Randle, Clarkson, Russell, Nance, Ingram, & Zubac, and somehow the FO still screwed up. |
GT, when you talk like that...I get all excited as if I was a 14 year old LG poster asking you what a slip screen is? Can you break it down on video for us?
Is it honestly your contention that lucking into draft picks while overestimating your own team and botching the draft protection is the sign of a forward thinking front office?
Really?
Stick to the Video Room....
_________________
Love, Laker Lanny |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Omar Little
Moderator
Joined: 02 May 2005
Posts: 90307
Location: Formerly Known As 24
|
| Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2016 7:15 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| LakerLanny wrote: | | GoldenThroat wrote: |
That's quite the receipt.
So we bottom out, add Randle, Clarkson, Russell, Nance, Ingram, & Zubac, and somehow the FO still screwed up. |
GT, when you talk like that...I get all excited as if I was a 14 year old LG poster asking you what a slip screen is? Can you break it down on video for us?
Is it honestly your contention that lucking into draft picks while overestimating your own team and botching the draft protection is the sign of a forward thinking front office?
Really?
Stick to the Video Room.... |
If you're going to denigrate the analysis of others, perhaps a starting point would be providing a bit yourself beyond the refs are crooked, Jim and Mitch sucks, and hey, check out my complete lack of hoops knowledge? 
_________________
“We must always take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented.” ― Elie Wiesel |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
The Logo
Star Player
Joined: 25 Jul 2013
Posts: 9577
Location: Salem, OR
|
| Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2016 8:12 pm Post subject: |
|
|
 |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
twisted
Star Player
Joined: 09 Jun 2012
Posts: 1265
|
| Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2016 8:33 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| LakerLanny wrote: | | GoldenThroat wrote: |
That's quite the receipt.
So we bottom out, add Randle, Clarkson, Russell, Nance, Ingram, & Zubac, and somehow the FO still screwed up. |
GT, when you talk like that...I get all excited as if I was a 14 year old LG poster asking you what a slip screen is? Can you break it down on video for us?
Is it honestly your contention that lucking into draft picks while overestimating your own team and botching the draft protection is the sign of a forward thinking front office?
Really?
Stick to the Video Room.... |
I like the fact that you attacked a poster while completely ignoring the massive receipt another poster just called you out for. Real life Faker
_________________
“God knew they couldn’t be on this Earth without each other. He had to bring them home to have them together.” – Vanessa Bryant |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
pjiddy
Retired Number
Joined: 12 Dec 2005
Posts: 29077
|
| Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2016 8:52 pm Post subject: |
|
|
A forward-thinking front office would do pretty much what the Lakers did: gather assets and put yourself in a position to be competitive long-term, with the option to convert those assets to a shorter-term picture with a more competitive outlook.
Instead they should have tried to surround (an injured) Kobe with a more "competitive" team for the remote chance of watching them get embarrassed in Round 1? With the greater likelihood they simply drop out of their lotto protection range and hand over their picks? That's a "forward-thinking" front office? |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
yinoma2001
Retired Number
Joined: 19 Jun 2010
Posts: 119487
|
| Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2016 9:05 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Receipts don't lie. (Rasheed Wallace voice).
_________________
From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
JerryMagicKobe
Moderator
Joined: 28 Jul 2005
Posts: 15100
|
| Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2016 9:14 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| LakerLanny wrote: | | GoldenThroat wrote: |
That's quite the receipt.
So we bottom out, add Randle, Clarkson, Russell, Nance, Ingram, & Zubac, and somehow the FO still screwed up. |
GT, when you talk like that...I get all excited as if I was a 14 year old LG poster asking you what a slip screen is? Can you break it down on video for us?
Is it honestly your contention that lucking into draft picks while overestimating your own team and botching the draft protection is the sign of a forward thinking front office?
Really?
Stick to the Video Room.... |
What a disappointing response.
Why in the world would you pick a fight with someone dedicating to dropping knowledge, and then insult him for it?
That really sucks. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Bard207
Star Player
Joined: 08 Jan 2013
Posts: 7713
|
| Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2016 9:22 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| pjiddy wrote: | A forward-thinking front office would do pretty much what the Lakers did: gather assets and put yourself in a position to be competitive long-term, with the option to convert those assets to a shorter-term picture with a more competitive outlook.
Instead they should have tried to surround (an injured) Kobe with a more "competitive" team for the remote chance of watching them get embarrassed in Round 1? With the greater likelihood they simply drop out of their lotto protection range and hand over their picks? That's a "forward-thinking" front office? |
What the Lakers have gone through in recent seasons is something that the Players (Kobe mostly), FO, owners, fanbase, media etc are not accustomed to seeing from them.
So a mix of frustration, angst, anger, puzzlement etc from some is a reasonable expectation. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
|
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
|
|
