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cyborgspider
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | JeezyXVII wrote: | https://lakeshowlife.com/2018/08/20/los-angeles-lakers-jeremy-lin-named-player-target-trade/
Deng and a pick(s) for Lin ?! |
Brooklyn is ready to give up on chasing FAs next offseason? |
Lin was traded to Atlanta this offseason, VLF.
Don't blame you for not knowing all the moves crappy eastern conference teams make in the offseason though.  |
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Ziggy
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| Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2018 7:39 pm Post subject: |
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| JeezyXVII wrote: | https://lakeshowlife.com/2018/08/20/los-angeles-lakers-jeremy-lin-named-player-target-trade/
Deng and a pick(s) for Lin ?! |
Any website that requires me to turn off my adblocker gets x'd. I wonder what we'd have to attach to Deng to get an expiring back. I wouldn't mind bringing Lin for a year. |
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Cow
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WHAT??? Why waive and stretch now??!
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Cow
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yinoma2001
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Whoa. Why now?
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The Lebrons
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| Cow wrote: | | WHAT??? Why waive and stretch now??! |
Hoping he took less. But I think it's respectful on FOs end to just let him go at this point rather than have him sit another year. |
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eagles nut
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| Cow wrote: | | WHAT??? Why waive and stretch now??! |
Because he agreed to a buyout. How much less he's accepted than what he was due isn't known yet. |
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Cow
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Unless he gave back a lot of money, I’m so confused.
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | | Whoa. Why now? |
Maybe he is giving up some money |
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Inspector Gadget
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| Best of luck to Deng, hopefully he resurrects his NBA career. |
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best off-season ever. its official |
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best off-season ever. its official |
Yep... I think this off season is one of the best the team has had in there history... so many positives.
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| I think moving Deng this way, gets us under the cap now. I'm not sure what that means exactly other than ... perhaps it positions us to acquire a player via trade for cap space? |
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The Lebrons
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | | Whoa. Why now? |
Starting today, we could stretch the last year of his deal (19-20). So this years salary counts in full against the cap, and the stretched amount will begin next season (waiting to hear if Deng gave anything back). Basically the FO decided the hit over the next 3 years was better than the assets they would have had to attach to dump his salary.
I thought this was the move all along, but wouldn't happen until next off-season. |
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How does this affect the cap? Waive and stretch is the same as the stretch provision or different? How quickly can we expect Tom Thibodeau to offer him a roster spot?
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The Lebrons
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| ringfinger wrote: | | I think moving Deng this way, gets us under the cap now. I'm not sure what that means exactly other than ... perhaps it positions us to acquire a player via trade for cap space? |
Doesn't do anything for this year. Goal would be to take money of the 2nd year because that's the amount that would be stretched. |
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The Lebrons
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| manlisten wrote: | | How does this affect the cap? Waive and stretch is the same as the stretch provision or different? How quickly can we expect Tom Thibodeau to offer him a roster spot? |
Opens up at least $12mill in space next summer. |
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ringfinger
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| The Lebrons wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | Whoa. Why now? |
Starting today, we could stretch the last year of his deal (19-20). So this years salary counts in full against the cap, and the stretched amount will begin next season (waiting to hear if Deng gave anything back). Basically the FO decided the hit over the next 3 years was better than the assets they would have had to attach to dump his salary.
I thought this was the move all along, but wouldn't happen until next off-season. |
Oh, well never mind what I said then. If the salary counts in full for this year, why do it now? Couldn't we have just done it before whatever the deadline is next year?
Unless we're just trying to help out Deng. |
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| The Lebrons wrote: | | manlisten wrote: | | How does this affect the cap? Waive and stretch is the same as the stretch provision or different? How quickly can we expect Tom Thibodeau to offer him a roster spot? |
Opens up at least $12mill in space next summer. |
Which they could do next summer as well. Closes off any chance to trade him and get even more cap room. Maybe with enough of a discount to make the reward and surety offset the risk?
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danzag
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| In Pelinka we trust! Best of luck to Luol |
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ringfinger
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I guess it could make sense now. For example, maybe Deng gives us a really good deal now.
But next offseason, he would have more leverage because we'll need the cap space more then than we do now.
So, the buyout terms must have been sufficiently favorable for us to want to pull the trigger now. |
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| Omar Little wrote: | | The Lebrons wrote: | | manlisten wrote: | | How does this affect the cap? Waive and stretch is the same as the stretch provision or different? How quickly can we expect Tom Thibodeau to offer him a roster spot? |
Opens up at least $12mill in space next summer. |
Which they could do next summer as well. Closes off any chance to trade him and get even more cap room. Maybe with enough of a discount to make the reward and surety offset the risk? |
It’s possible Magic and Rob wanted to do him a solid so they can get on a team where he actually gets on the floor next season. |
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The Lebrons
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| Omar Little wrote: | | The Lebrons wrote: | | manlisten wrote: | | How does this affect the cap? Waive and stretch is the same as the stretch provision or different? How quickly can we expect Tom Thibodeau to offer him a roster spot? |
Opens up at least $12mill in space next summer. |
Which they could do next summer as well. Closes off any chance to trade him and get even more cap room. Maybe with enough of a discount to make the reward and surety offset the risk? |
True, this means they didn't believe the assets required to dump Deng's salary in whole was worth it. I think I agree with that. The stretched ~6mill in 20-21 and 21-22 won't matter cap wise once Ingram's extension kicks in. Hoping he took money off the end since the FO let him go early. One distraction eliminated. |
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ringfinger
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| Freddie Buckets wrote: | | Omar Little wrote: | | The Lebrons wrote: | | manlisten wrote: | | How does this affect the cap? Waive and stretch is the same as the stretch provision or different? How quickly can we expect Tom Thibodeau to offer him a roster spot? |
Opens up at least $12mill in space next summer. |
Which they could do next summer as well. Closes off any chance to trade him and get even more cap room. Maybe with enough of a discount to make the reward and surety offset the risk? |
It’s possible Magic and Rob wanted to do him a solid so they can get on a team where he actually gets on the floor next season. |
I doubt though, that they would agree to any deal they felt would limit their options next year. |
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