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pio2u Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2016 9:35 pm Post subject: |
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Jose Calderon's defense is subpar but he is a natural point guard with the skill to efficiently run an offense. Plus he has a nice touch and can spread the floor with his range.
His assist-to-turnover ratio last season was one of the best in the NBA. Only CP3 & Mike Conley were better in that category. |
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JerryMagicKobe Moderator
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Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2016 10:45 pm Post subject: |
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Cheap expiring K attached to a crafty veteran mentor for our young guards.
Two 2nd rounders handed to a GM with a pretty good record of finding talent there.
Not bad. |
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Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2016 11:46 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | jose manuel calderon @JmCalderon3
Now I officially can.
Really excited and happy to be part of @Lakers organization!
#goldandpurple
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First Zubac, and now Jose with the gold and purple. |
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Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2016 11:48 pm Post subject: |
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Got farmar's old number? |
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pio2u Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2016 4:19 am Post subject: |
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What can Jose Calderon offer to the Lakers?
Quote: | This move can be looked at purely as a business transaction with the Lakers absorbing a player’s salary and the promise of future draft picks. It’s true that the Lakers gained more assets than they gave up, but don’t undermine the player they got in the deal in Calderon. |
https://lakersoutsiders.com/2016/07/07/what-can-jose-calderon-offer-to-the-lakers/ |
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pio2u Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2016 11:41 am Post subject: |
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Reviewing the Lakers trade for Jose Calderon
Quote: | Calderon's limitations are well-documented, but that’s why the Lakers were paid to take on his contract. He’s a reasonable backup at this point in his career and comes off the books at the end of the season. |
http://www.silverscreenandroll.com/2016/7/8/12126894/la-lakers-trade-jose-calderon-second-round-picks |
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pio2u Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2016 12:22 pm Post subject: |
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Podcast: What do we think of the Jose Calderon deal and the rest of free agency?
Quote: | The Los Angeles Lakers made arguably the biggest trade of the summer* in acquiring Jose Calderon, Jose Calderon’s contract, and (maybe?) two second round picks from the Chicago Bulls in order to allow the Windy City to open up the necessary cap space to sign Dwyane Wade.
In the second episode of Locked On Lakers, Anthony Irwin and Harrison Faigen discuss what they thought of the move, as well as extended impressions of the rest of the Lakers offseason. Also, what do we think of the Lakers’ rumored interest in Drew Gooden, and who does Anthony think the team should target to fill out the rest of the bench? |
http://www.silverscreenandroll.com/2016/7/7/12124166/la-lakers-trade-rumors-podcast-jose-calderon-free-agency |
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pio2u Retired Number
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Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2016 7:44 am Post subject: |
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After watching video on Jose Calderon it’s apparent that he can't defend elite NBA guards but he hustles and puts forth effort. He is better than Huertas defensively ("which ain't sayin' much").
Calderon has a wealth of experience and a nice set of handles. He's fairly accurate from beyond the arc (40%). I believe he will fit alongside D’Angelo Russell and/or Jordan Clarkson really well.
All things considered I believe that he's a very decent pick-up on a one year contract. |
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wh03lse Starting Rotation
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Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2016 8:14 am Post subject: |
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I kinda feel like its a wash but the big selling point was assets with the picks... Huertas and Calderon are like mirror images. Huertas is obviously more flashy with the passes so we'll see how it pans out. Wouldn't be surprised if its a holding place for Calderon to get more picks or vets from a contending team doing a playoff run |
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governator Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2016 8:16 am Post subject: |
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pio2u wrote: | After watching video on Jose Calderon it’s apparent that he can't defend elite NBA guards but he hustles and puts forth effort. He is better than Huertas defensively ("which ain't sayin' much").
Calderon has a wealth of experience and a nice set of handles. He's fairly accurate from beyond the arc (40%). I believe he will fit alongside D’Angelo Russell and/or Jordan Clarkson really well.
All things considered I believe that he's a very decent pick-up on a one year contract. |
Very decent pick-up indeed. Imagine if we can squeeze 1 more pick out of Calderon if a team needs an expiring contract |
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pio2u Retired Number
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Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2016 8:47 am Post subject: |
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governator wrote: | pio2u wrote: | After watching video on Jose Calderon it’s apparent that he can't defend elite NBA guards but he hustles and puts forth effort. He is better than Huertas defensively ("which ain't sayin' much").
Calderon has a wealth of experience and a nice set of handles. He's fairly accurate from beyond the arc (40%). I believe he will fit alongside D’Angelo Russell and/or Jordan Clarkson really well.
All things considered I believe that he's a very decent pick-up on a one year contract. |
Very decent pick-up indeed. Imagine if we can squeeze 1 more pick out of Calderon if a team needs an expiring contract |
The expiring contract and the two picks make it a sweet deal for us. 😀 |
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pio2u Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2016 8:07 am Post subject: |
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Jose Calderon reflects on Knicks tenure
Quote: | In a phone interview with The Post, Calderon, who’ll be 35 in September, said he wished he could’ve remained as Rose’s backup but realized the Knicks needed more pop at the starting position.
“It’s something they needed,’’ Calderon told The Post. “Like I said, I was ready for a different role and I was ready for a different role the last couple of years. Maybe there wasn’t the player to put ahead of me. |
http://nypost.com/2016/07/14/calderons-knicks-reflection-ive-needed-lesser-role-for-years/ |
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Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2016 8:15 am Post subject: |
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I'm expecting a big year from Calderon. |
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True Lakers Fan Starting Rotation
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Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2016 8:38 am Post subject: |
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Inspector Gadget wrote: | I'm expecting a big year from Calderon. |
Don't overrate him, he's a fine backup PG, that will mentor. That's it. _________________ I can accept failure, but I can't accept not trying. |
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Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2016 8:41 am Post subject: |
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True Lakers Fan wrote: | Inspector Gadget wrote: | I'm expecting a big year from Calderon. |
Don't overrate him, he's a fine backup PG, that will mentor. That's it. |
He can still produce when given minutes, |
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pio2u Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2016 9:37 am Post subject: |
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Inspector Gadget wrote: | True Lakers Fan wrote: | Inspector Gadget wrote: | I'm expecting a big year from Calderon. |
Don't overrate him, he's a fine backup PG, that will mentor. That's it. |
He can still produce when given minutes, |
I expect Calderon to have his moments. At least he understands his role and why he was brought in. He will definitely be a plus as a player, in a limited role, and as a mentor.
Offensively he's solid at running an offense but defensively he won't offer much help.
We will still struggle mightily on perimeter defense (as-well-as other areas). |
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Kirby Brian Star Player
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Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2016 9:42 am Post subject: |
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Jose Calderon acknowledged that he's no longer capable of playing starters minutes in the NBA, and he's happy to embrace a reserve role with the Lakers.
"I would like to play 15 years in the league, so hopefully three more years,’’ Calderon said. "I played 30 minutes [28.1] last year. I don’t think I’ll play that much ever again, so I’ll be able to play more years. I’m happy and comfortable here." Calderon will help backup D'Angelo Russell in Los Angeles, where he'll compete for limited reserve minutes with Marcelo Huertas. In other words, he won't be worth drafting in any format.
Source: New York Post Jul 15 - 11:53 AM |
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Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2016 11:40 am Post subject: |
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He was sniping at an elite level before he went into Phil's iso meatgrinder. |
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Kirby Brian Star Player
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Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2016 11:57 am Post subject: |
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greenfrog wrote: | He was sniping at an elite level before he went into Phil's iso meatgrinder. |
I remember a few years ago people were wanting him here in the triangle offense |
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Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2016 12:02 pm Post subject: |
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Kirby Brian wrote: | greenfrog wrote: | He was sniping at an elite level before he went into Phil's iso meatgrinder. |
I remember a few years ago people were wanting him here in the triangle offense |
It takes a very special type of shooter, one who doesn't mind being ignored, to excel in that offense. Blake was a disaster in it too, and many of us thought he would be killer in it. |
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Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2016 5:49 pm Post subject: |
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Which 2nd round picks did we get? Can't find a confirmation anywhere. |
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Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2016 12:06 am Post subject: |
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Calderon has essentially been the best Asst-to-turnover guy in the league over the last 10 years including a second finish last year and two of the last three. The only guy you could argue over him is Chris Paul who would edge him out if you were looking in only the last five years. But he'd still be top two.
In terms of 3pt shooting, Calderon's career mark is 17th best in league history a fraction behind JJ Reddick. Actually, if you filtered out a few guys on the list who didn't fit in terms of their lacking volume of shots, both JJ and Jose move up significantly. Interesting note, Steve Kerr has the #1 career 3FG % (0.4540), followed by.....Steph Curry (0.4437).
He's not a high volume guy at this stage in his career. But for 15 mpg he makes sure your offense hums. _________________ Austin Reaves keeps his game tight, like Kobe Bryant on game night. |
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dcastillo Star Player
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Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2016 6:21 am Post subject: |
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greenfrog wrote: | Kirby Brian wrote: | greenfrog wrote: | He was sniping at an elite level before he went into Phil's iso meatgrinder. |
I remember a few years ago people were wanting him here in the triangle offense |
It takes a very special type of shooter, one who doesn't mind being ignored, to excel in that offense. Blake was a disaster in it too, and many of us thought he would be killer in it. |
Yea Blake did a lot better in mike d'antoni offense. |
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