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Inspector Gadget Retired Number
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Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2017 6:53 pm Post subject: |
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Shaolin's Finest wrote: | Inspector Gadget wrote: | Daphanabe wrote: | Inspector Gadget wrote: | Here's a list of teams who might take a chance at Mozgov ( for the sake of not seeing fans continue the trend of whining about his contract and play).
Portland
Golden State.
And also.. At this point I would more then welcome the Lakers trading Mozgov for a retired Pekovic, the guy won't be appreciated as a Laker.. that is quite clear. |
Can you stop whining about the whining. It's fair to criticize the front office for the dual contract abominations. It's also fair to critique the players when they don't live up to their contract, that is the nature of being a fan. |
Sure, but I'm just saying it's better for all parties if the Lakers can find a way to trade him.
Another DNP game for Mozgov you can't keep doing that and giving him 64M either he plays or he gets traded with a young player to make it enticable. |
That's exactly why people are complaining. 4 years 64 million and the guy is sitting on the bench, good luck finding any sucker to take on that contract. Everybody knew the signing was horrible the second it was announced. We're not even 1 year through the contract and he's already getting DNPs. Spare me from the "continuity" and "vet leadership" BS as well (not directed towards you, but to those who keep vehemently defending these stupid contracts).
It wouldn't be so bad if it was just one horrible contract, but the FO compounded the mistake with the Deng signing. |
I know. Hopefully the lakers can find a way to make it work. |
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Inspector Gadget Retired Number
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Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2017 6:54 pm Post subject: |
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Bard207 wrote: | Inspector Gadget wrote: | Daphanabe wrote: | Inspector Gadget wrote: | Here's a list of teams who might take a chance at Mozgov ( for the sake of not seeing fans continue the trend of whining about his contract and play).
Portland
Golden State.
And also.. At this point I would more then welcome the Lakers trading Mozgov for a retired Pekovic, the guy won't be appreciated as a Laker.. that is quite clear. |
Can you stop whining about the whining. It's fair to criticize the front office for the dual contract abominations. It's also fair to critique the players when they don't live up to their contract, that is the nature of being a fan. |
Sure, but I'm just saying it's better for all parties if the Lakers can find a way to trade him.
Another DNP game for Mozgov you can't keep doing that and giving him 64M either he plays or he gets traded with a young player to make it enticable. |
If Ingram is the young player sent out to move Mozgov's contract, then it could be possible.
Maybe, maybe not if it is Russell
I doubt that any one of Randle, Clarkson, Nance and Black would be enough to move Mozgov's contract. |
The FO needs to do something about it. |
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dcarter4kobe Franchise Player
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Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2017 10:25 pm Post subject: |
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Vet Min guys like Mcgee and Willie Reed are proving to be more productive players than Mozgov. _________________ "He's a Zen master, so he can speak to you, and he doesn't need a microphone; you can hear him in your head, 'Ron, don't shoot, don't shoot.' Whatever, pow, three. I love the Zen, though." |
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tox Franchise Player
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Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2017 10:49 pm Post subject: |
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dcarter4kobe wrote: | Vet Min guys like Mcgee and Willie Reed are proving to be more productive players than Mozgov. | A guy like Willie Reed is why I don't think Mozgov will be movable until he's an expiring, unless we attach an asset. I don't know why you'd trade for Mozgov instead of just finding some vet min guy and seeing if he can do a 90% approximation of Mozgov, which isn't exactly a high bar.
I still don't know why Charlotte traded for Plumlee. |
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999 Franchise Player
Joined: 19 Oct 2006 Posts: 20265
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Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2017 2:26 pm Post subject: |
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hope we can amnesty or waive this guy... he provides 0 depth to the lakers |
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Shaolin's Finest Star Player
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Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2017 2:31 pm Post subject: |
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dcarter4kobe wrote: | Vet Min guys like Mcgee and Willie Reed are proving to be more productive players than Mozgov. |
But they don't provide veteran leadership and continuity, unlike Mozgov |
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999 Franchise Player
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Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2017 2:34 pm Post subject: |
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Shaolin's Finest wrote: | dcarter4kobe wrote: | Vet Min guys like Mcgee and Willie Reed are proving to be more productive players than Mozgov. |
But they don't provide veteran leadership and continuity, unlike Mozgov |
what leadership??? HE SUCKS! the guy plays like complete garbage what can he show other players that are better than him? |
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Bard207 Star Player
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Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2017 2:43 pm Post subject: |
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999 wrote: | hope we can amnesty or waive this guy... he provides 0 depth to the lakers |
Amnesty?
That might not be possible because I have yet to find it mentioned in the soon to be implemented new CBA. |
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32 Retired Number
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Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2017 8:47 am Post subject: |
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ESPN Headlines this morning. Lakers shut down healthy Timofey Mozgov for remainder of season.
ESPN _________________ Nobody in the NBA can touch the Laker brand, which, like the uniform color, is pure gold. |
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danzag Franchise Player
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Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2017 8:57 am Post subject: |
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lakerlynx Starting Rotation
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Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2017 9:10 am Post subject: |
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Hasn't it been obvious for awhile that the Lakers have shut down their Vets to look at the young guys? This is not any kind of news. Mozgov and Deng can be helpful to us next year so resting them for the rest of this year makes total sense. Yes, they are both overpaid but as the young players slowly learn how to play team defense Mozgov and Deng will provide more value to the team. _________________ Chick Hearn and Vin Scully. How lucky are we? |
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BobbyB Star Player
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Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2017 9:49 am Post subject: |
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Mozgov wasn't brought here to be a 20 and 10 guy...
IMO he is a legit starting center in the NBA...is he as good as Deandre, towns ? no
Hes a tier below on the level of robin lopez
If the team around him is good and all he has to focus on is setting screens and finishing around the rim, as all centers for the most part should be doing he is a nice player.
Now if you can get rid of him without taking back and ridiculous salary you do it.
But that doesn't mean that if we keep him he cant be a valuable piece for us at center, especially when we are playing against bigger centers like Deandre, Cousins etc. |
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Krispy Kreme Franchise Player
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Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2017 11:46 am Post subject: |
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He's that bad. He's healthy and we don't want to even play him. _________________ Dominating every day. |
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LakersRGolden Star Player
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Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2017 11:52 am Post subject: |
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Krispy Kreme wrote: | He's that bad. He's healthy and we don't want to even play him. |
Just like Nick Young and Deng. |
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greenfrog Retired Number
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Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2017 12:45 pm Post subject: |
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He was the worst center on a bottom 3 team that included undersized power forwards playing the position. He has no place other than as a 12th man on an NBA team. |
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Ujah's Goat Star Player
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Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2017 1:03 pm Post subject: |
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Lmfaooooooo |
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misterioso Starting Rotation
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Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2017 2:25 pm Post subject: |
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1104 minutes at $16 million = $14,492 per minute.
Everybody considers Mozzie's season a failure, except Mozzie who's laughing his way to the bank. |
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dcarter4kobe Franchise Player
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Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2017 2:28 pm Post subject: |
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People here, a lot of popular posters, defended the deal lol. _________________ "He's a Zen master, so he can speak to you, and he doesn't need a microphone; you can hear him in your head, 'Ron, don't shoot, don't shoot.' Whatever, pow, three. I love the Zen, though." |
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pio2u Retired Number
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Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2017 2:38 pm Post subject: |
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The Trade That Gets Timofey Mozgov Out of LA
Quote: | The Los Angeles Lakers have very few avenues to get rid of Timofey Mozgov and his unreal $65 million contract. Here is a trade so crazy it might just work. |
http://lakeshowlife.com/2017/03/13/lakers-trade-timofey-mozgov/ |
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RobinInHood Starting Rotation
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Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2017 3:37 pm Post subject: |
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I can live with that. And if Lopez is stinking it up badly on the court by the end of next season, one can always hope that Zubac has developed nicely and is ready for a more permanent role in the the starting unit. |
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KindCrippler2000 Franchise Player
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Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2017 3:46 pm Post subject: |
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DNP-LA Lifestyle
Mozgov is certainly one lucky fellow. |
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cvballa Starting Rotation
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Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2017 4:30 pm Post subject: |
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BobbyB wrote: | Mozgov wasn't brought here to be a 20 and 10 guy...
IMO he is a legit starting center in the NBA...is he as good as Deandre, towns ? no
Hes a tier below on the level of robin lopez
If the team around him is good and all he has to focus on is setting screens and finishing around the rim, as all centers for the most part should be doing he is a nice player.
Now if you can get rid of him without taking back and ridiculous salary you do it.
But that doesn't mean that if we keep him he cant be a valuable piece for us at center, especially when we are playing against bigger centers like Deandre, Cousins etc. |
This. 👆🏼
People are freaking out over Moz for no reason. Is it a bad contract, sure. Is it worse than Deng's? No way!
Moz is a very quality Center in the league where anyone not on a rookie contract usually are getting paid $12 mil per +. He needs stars around him. We have none yet.
Let him rest up and have an extra long off season to make sure he is 1000% healthy for next year. No need to add more miles on him.
Let Zu develop. |
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Inspector Gadget Retired Number
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Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2017 4:41 pm Post subject: |
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cvballa wrote: | BobbyB wrote: | Mozgov wasn't brought here to be a 20 and 10 guy...
IMO he is a legit starting center in the NBA...is he as good as Deandre, towns ? no
Hes a tier below on the level of robin lopez
If the team around him is good and all he has to focus on is setting screens and finishing around the rim, as all centers for the most part should be doing he is a nice player.
Now if you can get rid of him without taking back and ridiculous salary you do it.
But that doesn't mean that if we keep him he cant be a valuable piece for us at center, especially when we are playing against bigger centers like Deandre, Cousins etc. |
This. 👆🏼
People are freaking out over Moz for no reason. Is it a bad contract, sure. Is it worse than Deng's? No way!
Moz is a very quality Center in the league where anyone not on a rookie contract usually are getting paid $12 mil per +. He needs stars around him. We have none yet.
Let him rest up and have an extra long off season to make sure he is 1000% healthy for next year. No need to add more miles on him.
Let Zu develop. |
Agreed 100%
The 1 major mistake the FO did when signing Moz and Deng is that the team had already decided that the team was aiming for growth over wins, when these guys were apart of playoff runs with there previous teams, it probably shook them a little bit and when it looked like we were going downhill in December these guys probably figured that there is nothing they can do to help.
I blame these signings based on not knowing the real goal for them as as opposed to there contract and years.
I would love to see them traded just based on the fact that they probably didn't know the direction of the team, even though they were here to lead and help the young guys. |
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Ujah's Goat Star Player
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Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2017 4:49 pm Post subject: |
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misterioso wrote: | 1104 minutes at $16 million = $14,492 per minute.
Everybody considers Mozzie's season a failure, except Mozzie who's laughing his way to the bank. |
That's the thing, no one is looking at this season (or the next 3) as his failure. It was simply a horrendous move by our excellent basketball ops people. |
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Daphanabe Star Player
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Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2017 4:59 pm Post subject: |
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Wow, that author must be on LG. This trade has been discussed here, with the exact same rationale. |
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