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PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2016 4:40 pm    Post subject: Can this team as currently assembled win 41 games?

We are probably done with free agency, I don't think we are going to commit anymore precious cap space to just sign a player just to max our cap, we have pretty good backups at every position, Tarik Black probably wont get time at center, those few minutes will probably go to Zubac, so he will end of backing up Randle and Nance Jr. at PF, currently we have too many guards so I'm assuming Huertas is going to the D-League, or since we will probably make room for another forward, I wonder if this team could catch fire and win 41 games? That would be attractive to Westbrook, and if that gets us into the playoffs I think we have a great shot at getting him to sign as a unrestricted free agent, what would happen to DeAngelo Russell is beyond me, if he plays twice as good Mitch probably wouldn't want to give him up, his is tall enough to play shooting guard but he would also still be on a rookie contract and other teams would be licking there chops for his services, one thing is for sure, the tank is dead and it will be exciting to see how this team plays together in a refreshing new team environment

PG's DeAngelo Russell, Lou Williams, Jose Calderon
SG's Jordan Clarkson, Anthony Brown
SF's Loul Deng, Brandon Ingram
PF's Julius Randle, Larry Nance Jr.
C's Timofey Mosgov, Ivica Zubac, Tarik Black

My best guess is this will be the final roster going into the 2016-2017 season, even though on paper we are not better than 7 teams, there is a good chance that with the right amount of luck and chemistry we can sneak into that 8th seed and get valuable playoff experience
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2016 4:44 pm    Post subject:

I don't think the roster is set.

Young could be traded and we might trade one of our Gs let's wait until the roster is set in October.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2016 4:48 pm    Post subject:

most likely Young gets traded for a 2nd Rd pick or waived, so we don't have to absorb his salary against the cap, I think the guards we have do have a good mixture of talent and experience, its going to be exciting to see the progression of DeAngelo and Clarkson could have a career year
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2016 4:49 pm    Post subject:

32-36 wins is probably realistic.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2016 4:50 pm    Post subject:

Considering what the Trailblazers was able to accomplish it seems feasible. But I could be bias. =)
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2016 4:50 pm    Post subject:

Everything that I have read is that the team wanted Scott to play Black more often last year. I am not sure why you think a 19 year old 2nd round pick has secured the primary back up center position, particularly considering that Walton will assuredly want to use some small ball lineups.

As for your question, I think it's possible. We really have no idea what to expect from most of the roster. How are Randle, Russell and Clarkson going to perform under a coach that understands modern basketball? Can Ingram's body withstand the rigors of an NBA season vs NBA competition?

Also, Young is as good as gone.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2016 4:51 pm    Post subject:

This coming season is such a question mark. 41 wins is of course possible, but I think most people just want to finally see something to be excited about. 41 wins will certainly do the trick. A couple breakout performances by some of our guys as well. Maybe even a ROTY award for our boy Ingram.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2016 4:54 pm    Post subject:

I'd say it's at the far, far right end of the bell curve. Way right. Like way over there. --------------->
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2016 4:56 pm    Post subject: Re: Can this team as currently assembled win 41 games?

LakerFan1977 wrote:
We are probably done with free agency, I don't think we are going to commit anymore precious cap space to just sign a player just to max our cap, we have pretty good backups at every position, Tarik Black probably wont get time at center, those few minutes will probably go to Zubac, so he will end of backing up Randle and Nance Jr. at PF, currently we have too many guards so I'm assuming Huertas is going to the D-League, or since we will probably make room for another forward, I wonder if this team could catch fire and win 41 games? That would be attractive to Westbrook, and if that gets us into the playoffs I think we have a great shot at getting him to sign as a unrestricted free agent, what would happen to DeAngelo Russell is beyond me, if he plays twice as good Mitch probably wouldn't want to give him up, his is tall enough to play shooting guard but he would also still be on a rookie contract and other teams would be licking there chops for his services, one thing is for sure, the tank is dead and it will be exciting to see how this team plays together in a refreshing new team environment

PG's DeAngelo Russell, Lou Williams, Jose Calderon
SG's Jordan Clarkson, Anthony Brown
SF's Loul Deng, Brandon Ingram
PF's Julius Randle, Larry Nance Jr.
C's Timofey Mosgov, Ivica Zubac, Tarik Black

My best guess is this will be the final roster going into the 2016-2017 season, even though on paper we are not better than 7 teams, there is a good chance that with the right amount of luck and chemistry we can sneak into that 8th seed and get valuable playoff experience


I think we can 40, but that'll be a hard push and we'll need a good amount of luck.

I also think your rotation might need a little adjustment:

PG - Russell, Clarkson (primary backup), Calderon (better shooter than the flying squirrel), Huertas
SG - Clarkson, Williams (who just is NOT a PG, sorry), Ingram, Calderon
SF - Deng, Ingram, Brown (I don't think he can D up fast SGs)
PF - Randle, Nance, Deng (small ball)
C - Mozgov, Black, Randle (small ball, more strength than Nance), Zubac (still too raw for heavy minutes)

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2016 4:58 pm    Post subject:

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2016 4:59 pm    Post subject:

35 wins
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2016 5:00 pm    Post subject:

2016 - 17 wins
2017 - 41 wins
2018 - 65 wins
2019 - 89 wins
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2016 5:01 pm    Post subject:

True Lakers Fan wrote:
35 wins



More like 25...these kids need time to grow together...
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2016 5:01 pm    Post subject:

You mean cuz of the Huertas signing?
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2016 5:04 pm    Post subject:

I will say that my expectations are far below 41 wins. I just want to see some competitive, fun games and I want to watch the development of the young guys.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2016 5:05 pm    Post subject:

25-28
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2016 5:07 pm    Post subject:

no.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2016 5:08 pm    Post subject:

Das wrote:
25-28


That's about where I have it, too. Anything else is gravy.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2016 5:11 pm    Post subject:

maybe in the east
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2016 5:11 pm    Post subject:

If Russell breaks out and has a season that matches high end expectations, Mozgov bounces back to 2014-15 form, Ingram plays ROY caliber ball and either Nance or Randle excels as a small ball C, it's possible. Not probable. That requires a lot of things going well, and I'd love to see it. I'm expecting something like 30-35 wins next season. We should all be thrilled if we double our win total next season.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2016 5:14 pm    Post subject:

Was Roy Hibbert as bad as he looked, and will simply getting rid of him improve the team, and by how much?

How much did Kobe really hurt vs help last year? Both in terms of his on-court presence and the off-court circus. Will they be better without him jacking up bricks and being unable to play defense, or will they be worse without his presence, leadership, and playmaking?

Just how much of an effect did Byron have on wins and losses? Was the team really that horrible because his terrible gameplan, or was it simply because he was unable to get them to do what he wanted?

How much if at all were the kids held back by Byron and the Kobe farewell tour? How much has their work over the summer improved their individual abilities? How much better would they have been in a better system?

Is Clarkson doomed to be a terrible defender for the rest of his career, or will paying attention to it for the first time in his life turn him into a decent defender?

Is Russell's lauded passing ability a myth, or will we finally get to see it in a decent system?

Will Randle be able to hit a jumpshot after all his work over the summer?

How good is Luke really going to be?

How good is Ingram going to be out of the gate?

Are we to expect declining Deng, or resurgent Deng?

Are we getting '16 Mozgov or '15 Mozgov?

What effect does Calderon have both on the court and in the locker room?

Will the fact that their veterans are now signed for the long haul cause them to buy in and be more committed both on and off the court, as opposed to one year mercenaries who don't want to risk getting hurt in a contract year?

Honestly, there are so many question marks surrounding the team that predicting a record is impossible. It's the safe bet to anticipate them being awful again, but the truth is nobody knows. Obviously they're not going to be a contender, and even making the playoffs is a long shot. But every year, there are teams that come out of no where, and the reason why is that the so-called experts tend to overlook questions like these.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2016 5:20 pm    Post subject:

Outside of Phoenix and maybe Dallas, who do people believe these Lakers can be better than in the West to reach 41 wins?
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2016 5:27 pm    Post subject:

It's possible depending on how it all comes together. Teams that have projected much worse than the Lakers have won more than 41 games.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2016 5:32 pm    Post subject:

Sure.
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