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Panthas · Star Player Joined: 30 Dec 2005 Posts: 1262

What would you do with this current roster to help us become more consistant winners? Your allowed to do one minor roster change (trade, free agent, ect.).

I would immediately make trade for a decent PG, possibly Mike James. Then I would move smush to the sg position and have Kobe at the sf position. I would leave Mihm at the Center and have Odom at the Pf. Off the bench I would have Kwame George and Bynum.

Smush would have more of a green light to shoot, and will also get some plays for him specfic. Kobe will still be KObe. Mike James will be our Intitator and also our spot up shooter.

What would you do?
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thumpinghead · Star Player Joined: 17 Nov 2005 Posts: 5657

Luke Walton will alway be a loser. Sasha is not ready yet. So I agree we need help at the PG bc Smush is really a backup. Trade Walton, Medvedenko, and Mckey for a starting PG, but yeah, like thats really going to happen....
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ocho · Retired Number Joined: 24 May 2005 Posts: 53833

explore trade options for players not named kobe, mihm, andrew, or lamar. do not make a deal just to make a deal (like zeke). if there are no takes for our junk, wait till 07/08, hope bynum develops and use your cap flexibility to bring in some real talent.

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tgf5 · Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 1:59 pm Post subject:

I think Mitch put this team in a hole wasting the MLE. I would have signed Sprewell regardless of how much of a cancer he can be. He's had good seasons and bad seasons. People were assuming bad season immediately, most anyways, if we got him. Well look at where we are with McKie.

Would have traded Luke Walton immediately after the 2004 Finals, because he was excellent trade bait then, until we decided to give him an extension.

Look at some other players for 10 day contracts (Well, Maurice Carter and Ime Udoka didn't work well) but some guys with actual NBA experience. Should have pushed for Marcus Banks and Paul Pierce if we never got Sprewell. Etc..

Addicus · Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 2:08 pm Post subject:

Looking at the news reports around the league, a lot of GM's are having a hard time finding the right pieces for their teams since the last 2 CBA's. Personnel evaluation has become a major issue that these guys are failing on. It really seams as if the only teams to doing this well are SA, Detroit, Phoenix and Dallas.

I would like to include the Pacers, but with the Artest, Bender and injury situations I can't. New Jersey has a nice core, but the role players are yet to help them become elite since going to the Finals back to back years.

Miami is a hodge-podge of growing, declining and declined superstars that seem to work due to veteran experience and a lack of good competition. I have to think the team that had last year would have been a formidable opponent this year.

Memphis is close to getting in there with the top 4, but the lack of a true inside presence to assist Pao Gasol is really hurting them. I might not be saying this if they didn't draw the Spurs in the first round for the last 2 years, but such is life.

Our GM is running in the middle of the pack. We knew it was a process, but Kwame Brown being inept and McKie being injured have really hurt. If Turiaf is decent that will even him out once you throw the Bynum pick in. Before that Mitch has really blown the draft bypassing many a guy for what seems to be lesser talent. Some say the owners are the ones making decisions. I say, it doesn't matter because Mitch's head will roll before theirs.

NOW TO WHAT I WOULD DO:

1. Rescind the Butler/Atkins trade. We would be better with Bynum starting C and Mihm playing PF than what we have. We would be thin on the the front line, but what would be different.

2. Not sign McKie and give Sprewell his $5 mill. I would actually cut McKie now and give Spree the $.

3. Smoke a joint with Phil and Jeanie and have a 3some. We are basically screwed until the end of the year financially so might as well have fun.
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Addicus · Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 2:15 pm Post subject:

Oh yeah - like the guy before me said get rid of Walton, Slava and George.

I would have kept George, but Walton and Slava would not have been resigned once I knew Shaq wasn't coming back.

I also would have kept Gary Payton once he re-upped. Half of our problems are concerning the way the organization did him wrong in that trade to Boston.
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TACH · Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 2:15 pm Post subject:

Hey,.. as bad as you think Mitch is... look at the bright side... at least we are not in the Knicks situation:

The Bobcats have 13 wins and the Knicks have 14 wins. According to hoopshype.com, Charlotte's 2005-06 payroll is $33.4 million, while New York's payroll is $125.9 million. Not including team options on younger players, Charlotte has $21.8 million in guaranteed salaries committed for 2007; $14.2 million committed in 2008; and $0.0 million in 2009. New York's guaranteed money looks like this: $110.3 million (2007); $49 million (2008); and $45 million (2009). Also, the Bobcats kept all their first-round picks through the decade, while New York gives Chicago its
2006 lottery pick and switches first-rounders with the Bulls in 2007 (with the Knicks getting the lower pick).

To recap: For that one extra win, the Knicks spent four times as much money, killed their cap flexibility through 2009 and gave away any chance of having a top-five pick in the next two years.

Socks · Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 2:18 pm Post subject:

bounty · Star Player Joined: 15 Aug 2005 Posts: 3946

this is tough b/c we dont know who is avail. Some that may appear un- maybe avail.

I get on the phone with
Atlanta=JJohnson
Philly=Iggy
Tor.=Bosh
Nets=RJ
Memph.=Battier,Miller
Suns=Diaw,Bell
Pists=Prince
and see how valuable LO+Pick is to them. I can validate how any of these guys COULD be avail. From there i would pat myself on the back b/c I just made us 10x's better
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Smel Counts · Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 2:34 pm Post subject:

ocho · Retired Number Joined: 24 May 2005 Posts: 53833

Smel Counts · Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 2:36 pm Post subject:

bounty · Star Player Joined: 15 Aug 2005 Posts: 3946

ocho · Retired Number Joined: 24 May 2005 Posts: 53833

bounty-

1. atlanta is not gonna give up their franchise player for lamar odom.
2. odom for iggy is a step back for us.
3. odom for bosh is great for us but toronto won't do it.
4. nets are third seed in the playoffs and RJ is better. why would they do this?
5. memphis trade is intriguing but we still have no one to initiate the offense if we do this. and i don't think either teams would do it.
6. suns don't do that trade.
7. no way in hell pistons do that trade.
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AirKobe8 · Star Player Joined: 30 Jan 2005 Posts: 8586

I'd trade Kwame + Walton to Denver for Andre Miller, Also I'd offer Jerome Moiso a contract, he's a 6'10 guy, solid rebounder and very good shot blocker.

Mihm/Moiso/A-bomb
Cook/Turiaf/Moiso
Lamar/George
Kobe/Sasha
Miller/Smush

Phil has already said Dre is his fave PG in the league. Denver does that so they can keep Watson/Boykings, and then they have the quickest PG combo in the league.
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sodapoppenski · Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 2:48 pm Post subject:

bounty · Star Player Joined: 15 Aug 2005 Posts: 3946

Has anyone seen JJohnson play? he has and can excel at the 1. He is big, can stroke and d's up. PJ would love him. as far as his contract. We are overpaying LO, Kwame. JJ gives you things this team sorely needs. Imagine he and kobe in the back court. also JJ proved to excel playing next to stars in Phoenix. Atlanta hasnt done what they had hoped. they have youth, maybe they like LO b/c he wont get in the way of the guys developing.

RLEWIS-Another great fit next to kobe. plays lights out in the post, can hit from range. Defensive is better than LO, young.

i keep hearing LO has value. well, here ya go.
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ocho · Retired Number Joined: 24 May 2005 Posts: 53833

actually soda we're in total agreement. i was saying that it woudl be a mistake to sacrifice 07 for battier. and you're right about bosh....but has to tell them he's leaving...it's a possiblilty but its not gonna happen this year.
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And 1 · Star Player Joined: 12 Apr 2001 Posts: 2586

My two cents...

I'd trade Lamar Odom and Slava

to Orlando for

Steve Francis and the rights to Fran Vasquez

I'd then look to see if I could pull off a deal with Toronto to get Mo Peterson in exchange for a re-signed Devean George.

Draft moves would be dependant on the development of Vasquez. If he's deemed worthy, keep him as I believe he could do well in the Triangle offense. If not, I'd try like hell to put together a package including him, Kwame, and Miami's first to move up in the draft to select Shelden Williams and whatever trash that team needs to unload.

Your roster would look like:

PG: Steve Francis / Smush Parker
SG: Kobe Bryant / Sasha / Wafer
SF: Mo Pete / Walton / Green
PF: Shelden Williams or Fran Vasquez / Ronny Turiaf
C: Mihm / Bynum

Francis' contract runs the same length as Lamar's. Peterson's contract is up at the end of '07.

sodapoppenski · Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 3:41 pm Post subject:

Laker_Dynasty · Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 3:44 pm Post subject:

Assuming I were to take over as GM at this point, if I had to make 1 minor move, it would be to trade Slava and his ending contract for a 2nd round draft pick.

If I were to make a major move, I'd trade:

Aaron Mckie(ending in contract '07)
Von Wafer
Slava Medvedenko (ending contract)
Devean George (ending contract)
Kwame Brown

for

Eric Piatkowski (ending contract)
Malik Allen (ending in contract '07)
Tim Thomas (ending contract)

In this scenario, Chicago picks up Kwame Brown (adds size and youth to the lineup), Devean George (Solid small forward that can provide defense, shooting and slashing), Von Wafer (potential to be a decent back up Shooting guard), Slava (ending contract) and Aaron Mckie (ending contract in '07 and if healthy, provides veteran leader.

Why Chicago does it? Tim Thomas isn't playing much or contributing much to their cause, neither is Piatkowski or Malik Allen.
Why they don't do it? Tim Thomas and Piatkowski come off the books.

The Lakers pick up Tim Thomas (potential to be good 2nd option w/ Kobe and is an ending contract), Eric Piatkowski (shooter desperately needed and ending contract), Malik Allen (Power forward that has proven to provide 9 pts. 6 reb.).

Why the Lakers do it? Tim Thomas can alleviate the pressure from Lamar being the "2nd" option. He's a big small forward, which might push Lamar back to the 4, but has shown to be a decent defender from time to time. He's also got a big contract off the books by summer. Piatkowski is the shooter that Kobe could kick to and other teams hope isn't wide open (which many times our current roster is open when Kobe kicks to them). Decent size at 6-8 and an ending contract. Malik Allen, when given time, could probably provide similar stats as Kwame Brown. He's not playing much with Chicago, but has shown that he can do it while in Miami. Former teammate of Lamar for a brief period. Also, if worse comes to worse, the team ends up getting rid of Tim Thomas and Eric Piatkowski's contract this summer. Sign and trade possibilities open up.
Why the Lakers don't do it? Puts Lamar back at the 4 and with the rib injury, this might not be a good thing.

Now, those are my two 1 move scenarios. I evaluated some other moves, but this one seemed to add up better. I also looked at multiple (smaller scale moves), where Slava, Devean and Aaron Mckie were the only ones to be traded. Problem is, finding the right combination to work. No matter what, I think Slava should be traded at the deadline for his ending contract.
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Vlade · Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 3:48 pm Post subject:

Goal number 1: get Kwame off my team

Goal number 2: trade Odom IF you can get either: 2 or 3 damn good role players (maybe Chicago guys like Duhon and Deng) or a superior talent (Pierce). If these moves not possible, I would not dump Lamar.

Goal number 3: get a freakin' PG (hopefully this could be accomplished through options 1 and 2 above)

Best sleeper trade:
Consider making a move for Nene and Watson. This would blow the 2007 plan (oh no!) unless we moved Odom
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lakerMark · Starting Rotation Joined: 22 Sep 2005 Posts: 478

KA_2 · Star Player Joined: 08 Jan 2005 Posts: 1883

Trade Lamar Odom for a real 2nd option. Start there.
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