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PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2016 12:56 pm    Post subject:

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I don't understand why can't we get a reporter that somewhat spreads a little hometown homerism and makes you feel good about being an LA fan. Instead we get these two douches.

Matt money smith is a guy that was fair praised the lakers and talked smack about the opponents. Why was he fired? Because he doesn't toe the company line like Ireland?


Generally Ireland is a homer...

The problem is people in the media are entirely self serving. It's better for them if the Lakers have some huge name that they can babble on about endlessness, so the Lakers not getting a big name player in free agency pisses them off. They also set unrealistically high expectations for the Lakers.

Like really think about it, before free agency began they were throwing out bogus rumors about Lebron and Durant coming to the Lakers, then JUST before Free Agency begins that hit piece by Ding comes out.
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Such nonsense. Jerry West is the reason the Warriors have Durant now apparently, not the 73 wins or Curry and Klay, but the old guy Durant never even saw play... idiot.


Why do you think they won 73 games?
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2016 12:58 pm    Post subject:

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Such nonsense. Jerry West is the reason the Warriors have Durant now apparently, not the 73 wins or Curry and Klay, but the old guy Durant never even saw play... idiot.


Why do you think they won 73 games?


Because they drafted Curry, Thompson, and Green. lol
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2016 12:59 pm    Post subject:

Jerry West is just a consultant, but you would think he had Pat Riley's job with the way people talk about him.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2016 1:00 pm    Post subject:

Troublesome626 wrote:
USCandLakers wrote:
greenfrog wrote:
Such nonsense. Jerry West is the reason the Warriors have Durant now apparently, not the 73 wins or Curry and Klay, but the old guy Durant never even saw play... idiot.


Why do you think they won 73 games?


Because they drafted Curry, Thompson, and Green. lol


To be fair. West stood in the way when other high ups in GS wanted to trade Klay and Barnes for Kevin Love.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2016 1:02 pm    Post subject:

kikanga wrote:
Troublesome626 wrote:
USCandLakers wrote:
greenfrog wrote:
Such nonsense. Jerry West is the reason the Warriors have Durant now apparently, not the 73 wins or Curry and Klay, but the old guy Durant never even saw play... idiot.


Why do you think they won 73 games?


Because they drafted Curry, Thompson, and Green. lol


To be fair. West stood in the way when other high ups in GS wanted to trade Klay and Barnes for Kevin Love.


This is what I was going to get to.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2016 1:04 pm    Post subject:

LoyalLakerfan44 wrote:
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Such nonsense. Jerry West is the reason the Warriors have Durant now apparently, not the 73 wins or Curry and Klay, but the old guy Durant never even saw play... idiot.

The 73 wins is obviously important but the Jerry West reputation as a dynasty builder cannot be overlooked. Jerry sealed that deal and you can bet on that.
West didn't sell KD on his ability to build a dynasty. He showed him a team that went to the last 2 Finals. Having a ready made team to win now is what made the difference. Without that, KD would not be a Warrior, no matter how compelling Jerry West is.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2016 1:07 pm    Post subject:

kikanga wrote:
Troublesome626 wrote:
USCandLakers wrote:
greenfrog wrote:
Such nonsense. Jerry West is the reason the Warriors have Durant now apparently, not the 73 wins or Curry and Klay, but the old guy Durant never even saw play... idiot.


Why do you think they won 73 games?


Because they drafted Curry, Thompson, and Green. lol


To be fair. West stood in the way when other high ups in GS wanted to trade Klay and Barnes for Kevin Love.


Yes we heard that, but we also hear Steve Kerr and one of their owners opposed to that deal too. I am not saying having West is a bad thing just thought i would point out that drafting good and being patient also pays off.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2016 1:08 pm    Post subject:

USCandLakers wrote:
kikanga wrote:
Troublesome626 wrote:
USCandLakers wrote:
greenfrog wrote:
Such nonsense. Jerry West is the reason the Warriors have Durant now apparently, not the 73 wins or Curry and Klay, but the old guy Durant never even saw play... idiot.


Why do you think they won 73 games?


Because they drafted Curry, Thompson, and Green. lol


To be fair. West stood in the way when other high ups in GS wanted to trade Klay and Barnes for Kevin Love.


This is what I was going to get to.


Did the same think when he was our GM back in the day.
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Before Mark Aguirre would help Pistons to back to back championships he was nearly a member of the Lakers. In an 1986 deadline deal the Lakers proposed sending James Worthy and Bryron Scott to Dallas for Mark Aguirre and Roy Tarpley. However Jerry West put a stop on this deal, he threatened to quit if Lakers owner Jerry Buss went through with the deal. Big Game James ended up staying put, helping the Lakers to the 1987 and 1988 NBA title.


https://www.legendssf.com/blogs/legends-blog/27740292-20-events-that-would-have-changed-nba-history
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2016 1:11 pm    Post subject:

Nothing new here. Same old junk.

Look... We have a young talented squad ( Players and Coach) and lets roll the in to the next faze.

Lets Go Lakers!
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2016 1:15 pm    Post subject:

Max really pumps up the youngins names. Wish Ireland would do that. Dude is so thirsty to have a big name guy he's basically wearing kneepads.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2016 1:18 pm    Post subject:

And the media here is straight up disrespecting Bob Meyers, the real GM of the Warriors. Yes Jerry's up there as an executive board member and 'consultant' but they just assume he's the GM like everything Bob Meyers does he has to ask Jerry or something. Jerry even mentioned he's hands off unless they ask him for input.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2016 1:38 pm    Post subject:

Have we learned nothing from the Carmelo Anthony/Knicks fiasco! The Knicks had a lot of young assets. Everyone knew that Melo wanted to be a Knick and as a free agent the upcoming summer. Instead of the Knicks being patient and wait I g to sign him out rite, they traded away all of their young players and draft picks to Denver.

They could have had him and their young guys if the would have just been patient! Please lakers, don't do nothing stupid and mortgage your future for a guy that yiu can just sign next summer!
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2016 2:25 pm    Post subject:

FanOfFour wrote:
999 wrote:
Matt money smith is a guy that was fair praised the lakers and talked smack about the opponents. Why was he fired? Because he doesn't toe the company line like Ireland?


Money wasn't fired. He works at 570 (and NFL network), which is FOX. When the Lakers switched to ESPN radio, that was the end of that. I always thought he was fair, but there are quite a few here that think he's a Bulls homer because he's from Chicago.

Ireland is a dunce. He's boring as hell in PBP and he's always advocating the quick fix. Pre-draft, he wanted to trade the pick and players for Boogie Cousins too.


Matt money Smith is a big time Bulls/Jordan fan and Petros grew up as a Celtic fan. As soon as AM570 was no longer broadcasting Laker games, those two could't stop hating on Kobe/Lakers.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2016 2:28 pm    Post subject:

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GSW is why you dont trade for WB, if he and KD couldnt get it done against them what chance does anyone with WB have against GSW + KD now. Gotta build a team for 5 yrs from now.

KD and Westbrook could not get it done because OKC is a small market team that could not afford others that would get them over the top. If LA under Dr. Buss had Westbrook and KD they would have won a championship a long time ago.


there is such a thing called a salary cap. OKC has been over it basically the entire KD era
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2016 2:31 pm    Post subject:

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LoyalLakerfan44 wrote:
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GSW is why you dont trade for WB, if he and KD couldnt get it done against them what chance does anyone with WB have against GSW + KD now. Gotta build a team for 5 yrs from now.

KD and Westbrook could not get it done because OKC is a small market team that could not afford others that would get them over the top. If LA under Dr. Buss had Westbrook and KD they would have won a championship a long time ago.


there is such a thing called a salary cap. OKC has been over it basically the entire KD era


They could have kept Harden and paid him
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2016 2:34 pm    Post subject:

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LoyalLakerfan44 wrote:
socalsp3 wrote:
GSW is why you dont trade for WB, if he and KD couldnt get it done against them what chance does anyone with WB have against GSW + KD now. Gotta build a team for 5 yrs from now.

KD and Westbrook could not get it done because OKC is a small market team that could not afford others that would get them over the top. If LA under Dr. Buss had Westbrook and KD they would have won a championship a long time ago.


there is such a thing called a salary cap. OKC has been over it basically the entire KD era


He's likely referring to the Harden trade, which was done to avoid the luxury tax. Considering the enormous salary cap spike, it looks like it was a huge mistake. The Thunder are paying Kanter more than they would have been paying Harden and all the revenue they have presumably lost by not having Harden and going further in the playoffs as well as all the revenue they will lose after subsequently losing Durant in part because of the Harden trade would have surely made up for any luxury tax penalties. Short-sighted strategy by the Thunder has nearly destroyed their long-term prospects.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2016 3:43 pm    Post subject:

USCandLakers wrote:
greenfrog wrote:
Such nonsense. Jerry West is the reason the Warriors have Durant now apparently, not the 73 wins or Curry and Klay, but the old guy Durant never even saw play... idiot.


Why do you think they won 73 games?


By doing the same thing we're doing which is drafting young players?

Jerry West didn't create Curry, Thompson or Green. And if they hadn't drafted them then they wouldn't be landing Kevin Durant no matter what Jerry West tried to do.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2016 4:10 pm    Post subject:

That was tough to watch. Ireland was trying to make some good points but Mason just won't let him talk. He pretty much talked Ireland into wanting to trade all the young guys for Westbrook without them considering his contract situation. It was the hostess job to ask if Westbrook would commit to the lakers if traded, but she herself is clueless
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2016 4:25 pm    Post subject:

Garbage TV show.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2016 4:28 pm    Post subject:

G state has been the benchmark of winning the last 20 years no? Wait a sec? How'd they get curry, Klay and Draymond? Oh yeah, by drafting them....things that make you go hmm mm. OKC, how they get rusty, KD and Harden? Oh yeah, the draft. How did the Cavs get Lebron, kyrie and tristan? Oh yeah, the draft.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2016 4:41 pm    Post subject:

Mason just keeps on yapping. Sounds like the typical arrogant, entitled Laker fan.

Complains about the record the past 3 years:
- No more Kobe ball, Fired Byron, Hired Luke. What more does he want?

Inability to sign big name free agents the past 3 years:
- Nobody wanted to come here because everyone knew that the team was in a bad shape. Partly because of Kobe's injury, his contract and the coach. Now after missing out on all those free agents, Lakers decide to Sign Deng and Mozgov who are legit starters in the league as opposed to waiting on Durant and coming up empty handed yet again.

Trade for Westbrook:
- Presti ain't no chump. He will want at least 3 of Randle/Clarkson/Russell/Ingram. There is no scenario where we should do that unless Westbrook agrees to an extension. If we traded for Westbrook we would have a team worse than OKC right now and with Westbrook's contract expiring, there's no reason for him to stay. He has all the power.

Wants a winning culture:
- No (bleep) sherlock. That's what the Lakers are trying to do. Developing our young core and surrounding them with solid vets and hope that at least one of them becomes a star.
- Mason is thinking like GSW fans who booed their owner after trading away M.Ellis for Bogut to pave way for Curry and Thompson to flourish. Look how stupid they look now.

Buss family/Jerry West:
- Yeah yeah, Jim isn't his father, Jeanie is also at fault, Jerry West should still be a Laker. Things we've all heard before. The Buss family isn't going away. Deal with it. What's important is we are in the right direction.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2016 4:41 pm    Post subject:

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G state has been the benchmark of winning the last 20 years no? Wait a sec? How'd they get curry, Klay and Draymond? Oh yeah, by drafting them....things that make you go hmm mm. OKC, how they get rusty, KD and Harden? Oh yeah, the draft. How did the Cavs get Lebron, kyrie and tristan? Oh yeah, the draft.


That's why I said these guys are idiots for wanting to trade for Westbrick sooo badly. It's times like this I'm so glad they're radio tallk show hosts and not a Lakers GM. Lest not forget our latest attempt to trade for a superstar (Howard) failed miserably. With the exception of Lebron James, I think every time a superstar changes team, it usually doesn't work out great. I think GSW and Durant will be in a for big surprise.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2016 6:54 pm    Post subject:

Honestly 710 has been in the toilet for some time now but the Mason and Ireland show takes the cake. They do a "fast track" segment where they literally just ask each other questions (how exciting!!). Ireland routinely gets Laker related facts wrong, whether it be the year something happened or the player in question. mason is usually pretty pro/laker but I think he's just super anti-jim buss. At any rate, they're both pushing 60 so hopefully they're off the air soon
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2016 7:32 pm    Post subject:

It makes absolutely no sense in trading for Westbrook even if he would resign.

He isn't going to age well. He relies on his freakish athleticism. He is turning 28 in November. In 4 years, he won't be an elite player anymore. That's too small a window for the Lakers to put together a good enough team to try to challenge for a ring, if you trade away your 2 most promising players.
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