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moonriver24 Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2016 6:44 pm Post subject: How much would the Lakers have given prime Shaq and Kobe under current salary cap? |
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Cases in comparison: Conley and Derozan.
I just dont think they deserve the kind of money.
Shaq and Kobe would have easily been given 5 years 250 million. Each. _________________ Kobe's Top 5 Dunks, 81 points, MJ last gm @Staples |
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KindCrippler2000 Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2016 6:47 pm Post subject: |
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Chandler Parsons + Mike Conley money, so around $247 million over 4-5 years.
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venturalakersfan Retired Number
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Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2016 8:42 pm Post subject: |
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It depends on what point in their careers and how many years they had in the league, likely either 25 or 30% of the cap. _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023. |
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tox Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2016 9:30 pm Post subject: |
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venturalakersfan wrote: | It depends on what point in their careers and how many years they had in the league, likely either 25 or 30% of the cap. |
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Hector the Pup Retired Number
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Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2016 9:30 pm Post subject: |
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Prime Shaq and Kobe are unquestionable max players.
That's irrelevant.
Are there players that are worth more than the max? Absolutely. Under the current CBA, that doesn't matter. The max is the max is the max, which is why it is called the max. Pretty clever, right? Max means maximum.
DeRozan and Conley are also max players, simply because of the market. Does that mean that they are equals to players who are worth more than they can be paid? No.
The max is the max. Can't pay more than that. Does that mean if a team has a choice between Lebron and Derozan they don't care? Hell no.
Bottom line, this thread is meaningless. |
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panamaniac Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2016 10:25 pm Post subject: |
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As much as they could possibly get. Which would still not equal their real market value. |
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dont_be_a_wuss Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2016 10:38 pm Post subject: |
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The same as Conely. The max permitted by the CBA. |
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Omar Little Moderator
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Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2016 10:45 pm Post subject: |
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They would have gotten the max. Next question? _________________ “We must always take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented.” ― Elie Wiesel |
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moonriver24 Franchise Player
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Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2016 12:56 am Post subject: |
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Omar Little wrote: | They would have gotten the max. Next question? |
That lies the difference.
I DONT THINK THEY (derozan n conley) ARE MAX PLAYERS UNLIKE LEBRON OR CURRY for example. Even though Curry failed to perform his best. _________________ Kobe's Top 5 Dunks, 81 points, MJ last gm @Staples |
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tox Franchise Player
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Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2016 1:31 am Post subject: |
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moonriver24 wrote: | Omar Little wrote: | They would have gotten the max. Next question? |
That lies the difference.
I DONT THINK THEY (derozan n conley) ARE MAX PLAYERS UNLIKE LEBRON OR CURRY for example. Even though Curry failed to perform his best. | Max player is a player whose salary is at the max. Nothing more, nothing less.
Maybe by max player you mean "Someone so good that the max severely limits what they would otherwise make in an open market and end up having some of the best contracts in the league" like LeBron or Durant. I tend to prefer the definition of "Someone getting paid the max," personally. Less confusing that way. |
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KBH Franchise Player
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Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2016 7:47 am Post subject: |
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Hector the Pup wrote: | Prime Shaq and Kobe are unquestionable max players.
That's irrelevant.
Are there players that are worth more than the max? Absolutely. Under the current CBA, that doesn't matter. The max is the max is the max, which is why it is called the max. Pretty clever, right? Max means maximum.
DeRozan and Conley are also max players, simply because of the market. Does that mean that they are equals to players who are worth more than they can be paid? No.
The max is the max. Can't pay more than that. Does that mean if a team has a choice between Lebron and Derozan they don't care? Hell no.
Bottom line, this thread is meaningless. |
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KBH Franchise Player
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Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2016 7:48 am Post subject: |
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moonriver24 wrote: | Omar Little wrote: | They would have gotten the max. Next question? |
That lies the difference.
I DONT THINK THEY (derozan n conley) ARE MAX PLAYERS UNLIKE LEBRON OR CURRY for example. Even though Curry failed to perform his best. |
What you think doesn't really matter, though. There is no way to pay prime Kobe and Shaq more than the max. And the market dictates that DeRozan and Conley are max players as well. |
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