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Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2016 5:02 pm Post subject: How good would Bynum have been if he had healthy knees?
Also, what was the deal with his knees? How did he keep getting injured so easily? Were the initial knee injuries causes of his injury proneness or just evidence of it? _________________ Damian Lillard shatters Dwight Coward's championship dreams:
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Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2016 6:41 pm Post subject:
angrypuppy wrote:
It wasn't just the knees. It was the underdeveloped lungs and mushy muscles.
And a horrible attitude. He was a big kid who could play and was pushed into basketball. He viewed basketball as a paycheck to pay for cars, video games and dope. Regardless of his health he never would have had the attitude to be much. He was looking to get out the day he came in. _________________ You thought God was an architect, now you know
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I think he hurt his knees carrying Playmates.... _________________ “Always remember... Rumors are carried by haters, spread by fools, and accepted by idiots.”
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Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2016 10:34 pm Post subject:
We've been lucky to have a pretty hilarious and funky group of entertaining guys on our squads:
Bynum
Ammo
Pig Miller
Slava
Sun Yue
Artest
Van Exel
Fox
Zubac
Assistant coach Jesse
John sally
Madsen
DJ
Rambis
Shaq
Wilt
Who else am I missing? Too bad rodman didn't actually commit. _________________ "The best there is. The best there was. The best there ever will be.", said Bret Hart regarding the Los Angeles Lakers.
It should be said that bad attitude and all, the last healthy Bynum season resulted in him starting the All Star game. He had a 30 rebound game that year. He definitely had a screw loose but a healthy Bynum would still be a major player today. _________________ 14-5-3-12
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Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2016 8:23 am Post subject:
70sdude wrote:
His mental approach to the sport seemed to have limited his career arc as much as his knees. Pretty poor attitude.
Didn't everyone here think he had a great attitude up until Mike Brown became head coach? I think it was a combination of bad coaching and frustration over injuries that led to his poor attitude. I wonder what someone like Popovich could have done for him. _________________ Damian Lillard shatters Dwight Coward's championship dreams:
His mental approach to the sport seemed to have limited his career arc as much as his knees. Pretty poor attitude.
Didn't everyone here think he had a great attitude up until Mike Brown became head coach? I think it was a combination of bad coaching and frustration over injuries that led to his poor attitude. I wonder what someone like Popovich could have done for him.
He had a great season with Mike Brown. I don't think he loved he game and when the injuries flooded back and the writing was on the wall he threw in the towel. _________________ 14-5-3-12
Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2016 9:25 am Post subject: Re: How good would Bynum have been if he had healthy knees?
CandyCanes wrote:
Also, what was the deal with his knees? How did he keep getting injured so easily? Were the initial knee injuries causes of his injury proneness or just evidence of it?
Bynum could get 18-10 in his sleep, which is how he played. So he'd be an all-star based on natural ability.
Hard to predict how he would have progressed. He was really young when he got hurt, so we don't know if his approach to the game and his health habits would have matured at any point.
It should be said that bad attitude and all, the last healthy Bynum season resulted in him starting the All Star game. He had a 30 rebound game that year. He definitely had a screw loose but a healthy Bynum would still be a major player today.
He would've been the league's best center, no doubt. He already was when healthy, actually.
there was a window where he was the best center in the league. it was him, dwight howard, almost done yao, marc gasol, lopez. obviously, bynum was on the best team. but yao was basically done. lopez was good, but overrated and nothing special. Gasol is/was good, but was just starting to pan out. Oh yea, Hibbert was good at the time too. so those were the players I think as far as great centers. of course, duncan is considered a pf so nobody mentiones him...but he was basically old also.
of all those guys, physically bynum was the best in terms of length and overall athleticism. Athletically, dwight was the best, but he sucks offensively. Bynum could make plays none of these guys could. he made an alleyoop dunk once where he had already jumped and was going in a direction and had passed the rim...the ball was on the other side of the rim, and in the opposite direction he was moving. he caught the ball, almost horizontally, with one hand and flushed it. it was really odd looking, and impressive. imagine kobe's trademark reverse dunk, but done as an alleyoop, and the body moving in the opposite direction.
Hibbert was making a case for a great center, defensively for sure. but indiana had problems, and i guess he's kind of weird?
It wasn't just the knees. It was the underdeveloped lungs and mushy muscles.
And a horrible attitude. He was a big kid who could play and was pushed into basketball. He viewed basketball as a paycheck to pay for cars, video games and dope. Regardless of his health he never would have had the attitude to be much. He was looking to get out the day he came in.
What dope?...are there confirmed information sources you're privy to?
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Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2016 1:34 pm Post subject:
SuperboyReformed wrote:
danzag wrote:
He would've been the league's best center, no doubt. He already was when healthy, actually.
there was a window where he was the best center in the league. it was him, dwight howard, almost done yao, marc gasol, lopez. obviously, bynum was on the best team. but yao was basically done. lopez was good, but overrated and nothing special. Gasol is/was good, but was just starting to pan out. Oh yea, Hibbert was good at the time too. so those were the players I think as far as great centers. of course, duncan is considered a pf so nobody mentiones him...but he was basically old also.
of all those guys, physically bynum was the best in terms of length and overall athleticism. Athletically, dwight was the best, but he sucks offensively. Bynum could make plays none of these guys could. he made an alleyoop dunk once where he had already jumped and was going in a direction and had passed the rim...the ball was on the other side of the rim, and in the opposite direction he was moving. he caught the ball, almost horizontally, with one hand and flushed it. it was really odd looking, and impressive. imagine kobe's trademark reverse dunk, but done as an alleyoop, and the body moving in the opposite direction.
Hibbert was making a case for a great center, defensively for sure. but indiana had problems, and i guess he's kind of weird?
Crazy to think Bynum is still only 28. If he'd been healthy and we hadn't traded him, he would be our franchise player right now. (Or Chris Paul if the trade hadn't been vetoed. Or both even.) _________________ Damian Lillard shatters Dwight Coward's championship dreams:
It should be said that bad attitude and all, the last healthy Bynum season resulted in him starting the All Star game. He had a 30 rebound game that year. He definitely had a screw loose but a healthy Bynum would still be a major player today.
In terms of where they started out to where they ended up or were going, I'd say Bynum had one of, if not the biggest, climb of any center in NBA history. His trajectory was huge and growing. It's awe-inspiring to fathom where he could have gone if he was healthy/wanted to be that championship center who would become legendary.
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