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PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2016 8:10 pm    Post subject: If you could create a class that our future citizens (k-12) would have to attend all 13 years what would it be?

I think we know the ills the people in power have and this current generation..

It is my opinion that the schools are the solution because they are currently the problem and the power structure demands our schools raise cattle

I think some class that connects us to each other and the planet we are originally from is a nice start..

The Divisiveness must end..we will forever be one species....
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One that doesn't already exist? Personal finance.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2016 12:07 pm    Post subject:

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One that doesn't already exist? Personal finance.


Yep. Then maybe getting that 200k degree in some humanities field wouldn't look so hot.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2016 12:12 pm    Post subject:

I would like us to teach our children how to handle their human emotions and give them the tools for expressing them constructively. Would also include concepts of self-acceptance, self-esteem and acceptance of others and their differences.

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One that teaches a person not to judge a man by the color of his skin but by the contents of his character.
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One that teaches a person not to judge a man by the color of his skin but by the contents of his character.


We already have this. It's called Social Studies.
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One that teaches a person not to judge a man by the color of his skin but by the contents of his character.


We already have this. It's called Social Studies.

Social Studies is SUPPOSED to teach what King dreamed of. It's not doing the job.
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jodeke wrote:
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One that teaches a person not to judge a man by the color of his skin but by the contents of his character.


We already have this. It's called Social Studies.

Social Studies is SUPPOSED to teach what King dreamed of. It's not doing the job.


Most learning takes place outside of the classroom.
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jodeke wrote:
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jodeke wrote:
One that teaches a person not to judge a man by the color of his skin but by the contents of his character.


We already have this. It's called Social Studies.

Social Studies is SUPPOSED to teach what King dreamed of. It's not doing the job.


Most learning takes place outside of the classroom.

Agree. Let's find a way to tutor what King dreamed of. Find a place in a classroom. A lesson in parenting would benefit the cause.
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One that doesn't already exist? Personal finance.


Yep. Then maybe getting that 200k degree in some humanities field wouldn't look so hot.


Wait, what's wrong with a 200 k humanities degree? I regret having majored in Economics instead of English.
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DuncanIdaho wrote:
Huey Lewis & The News wrote:
One that doesn't already exist? Personal finance.


Yep. Then maybe getting that 200k degree in some humanities field wouldn't look so hot.


Wait, what's wrong with a 200 k humanities degree? I regret having majored in Economics instead of English.


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DuncanIdaho wrote:
CandyCanes wrote:
DuncanIdaho wrote:
Huey Lewis & The News wrote:
One that doesn't already exist? Personal finance.


Yep. Then maybe getting that 200k degree in some humanities field wouldn't look so hot.


Wait, what's wrong with a 200 k humanities degree? I regret having majored in Economics instead of English.




I'm actually curious. Does having been an English major totally screw you over or something?

I took a PhD level English class on Victorian Lit my last semester and really regret not having more of those sorts of classes.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2016 1:41 pm    Post subject:

CandyCanes wrote:
DuncanIdaho wrote:
CandyCanes wrote:
DuncanIdaho wrote:
Huey Lewis & The News wrote:
One that doesn't already exist? Personal finance.


Yep. Then maybe getting that 200k degree in some humanities field wouldn't look so hot.


Wait, what's wrong with a 200 k humanities degree? I regret having majored in Economics instead of English.




I'm actually curious. Does having been an English major totally screw you over or something?

I took a PhD level English class on Victorian Lit my last semester and really regret not having more of those sorts of classes.


Let's just say you don't see many engineering or computer science graduates serving coffee at Starbucks.

Not saying humanities classes aren't valuable, they just don't help you at all if you make them your primary focus. And they're never worth the cost some kids are paying these days. There are very few tenured university teaching jobs available.
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Don't know if this falls under a current category but, Work Ethics.

Teach kids that NOTHING is handed to them. To be someone, you have to work at it and fail.
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Don't know if this falls under a current category but, Work Ethics.

Teach kids that NOTHING is handed to them. To be someone, you have to work at it and fail.


I would ditch that class and then cheat on the final for a C.
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DuncanIdaho wrote:
CandyCanes wrote:
DuncanIdaho wrote:
CandyCanes wrote:
DuncanIdaho wrote:
Huey Lewis & The News wrote:
One that doesn't already exist? Personal finance.


Yep. Then maybe getting that 200k degree in some humanities field wouldn't look so hot.


Wait, what's wrong with a 200 k humanities degree? I regret having majored in Economics instead of English.




I'm actually curious. Does having been an English major totally screw you over or something?

I took a PhD level English class on Victorian Lit my last semester and really regret not having more of those sorts of classes.


Let's just say you don't see many engineering or computer science graduates serving coffee at Starbucks.

Not saying humanities classes aren't valuable, they just don't help you at all if you make them your primary focus. And they're never worth the cost some kids are paying these days. There are very few tenured university teaching jobs available.


What do you think about Economics? So are you saying that my original decision wasn't so stupid after all?

I don't know. I just felt really bad at the end of college knowing that I majored in something I hated instead of something I actually enjoyed.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2016 2:10 pm    Post subject:

CandyCanes wrote:
DuncanIdaho wrote:
CandyCanes wrote:
DuncanIdaho wrote:
CandyCanes wrote:
DuncanIdaho wrote:
Huey Lewis & The News wrote:
One that doesn't already exist? Personal finance.


Yep. Then maybe getting that 200k degree in some humanities field wouldn't look so hot.


Wait, what's wrong with a 200 k humanities degree? I regret having majored in Economics instead of English.




I'm actually curious. Does having been an English major totally screw you over or something?

I took a PhD level English class on Victorian Lit my last semester and really regret not having more of those sorts of classes.


Let's just say you don't see many engineering or computer science graduates serving coffee at Starbucks.

Not saying humanities classes aren't valuable, they just don't help you at all if you make them your primary focus. And they're never worth the cost some kids are paying these days. There are very few tenured university teaching jobs available.


What do you think about Economics? So are you saying that my original decision wasn't so stupid after all?

I don't know. I just felt really bad at the end of college knowing that I majored in something I hated instead of something I actually enjoyed.


As an Economics major, when I first graduated, I found it to be viewed only slightly better than the rest of the Social Sciences. Unfortunately, the UC's didnt have Finance or Accounting as majors otherwise that was the route I would have gone. Looking back, getting one of those degrees at a Cal State might have been the wiser route for me. Every humanities major I still keep in touch with is either doing something completely unrelated or parlayed it into becoming lawyers.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2016 3:52 pm    Post subject:

jonnybravo wrote:
CandyCanes wrote:
DuncanIdaho wrote:
CandyCanes wrote:
DuncanIdaho wrote:
CandyCanes wrote:
DuncanIdaho wrote:
Huey Lewis & The News wrote:
One that doesn't already exist? Personal finance.


Yep. Then maybe getting that 200k degree in some humanities field wouldn't look so hot.


Wait, what's wrong with a 200 k humanities degree? I regret having majored in Economics instead of English.




I'm actually curious. Does having been an English major totally screw you over or something?

I took a PhD level English class on Victorian Lit my last semester and really regret not having more of those sorts of classes.


Let's just say you don't see many engineering or computer science graduates serving coffee at Starbucks.

Not saying humanities classes aren't valuable, they just don't help you at all if you make them your primary focus. And they're never worth the cost some kids are paying these days. There are very few tenured university teaching jobs available.


What do you think about Economics? So are you saying that my original decision wasn't so stupid after all?

I don't know. I just felt really bad at the end of college knowing that I majored in something I hated instead of something I actually enjoyed.


As an Economics major, when I first graduated, I found it to be viewed only slightly better than the rest of the Social Sciences. Unfortunately, the UC's didnt have Finance or Accounting as majors otherwise that was the route I would have gone. Looking back, getting one of those degrees at a Cal State might have been the wiser route for me. Every humanities major I still keep in touch with is either doing something completely unrelated or parlayed it into becoming lawyers.


I feel the same way. Econ definitely isn't on the level of a CS, math, or even finance degree in terms of employability. And it's a useless thing to learn too. Actual economists can't apply these concepts to predict things. How can people with BAs? It's literally just math applied to hypothetical situations which will never occur in the real world. And it tends to be pretty difficult too.

My other major was political science and I found that to be much more fulfilling. I wish I could have paired it with something like English or Philosophy instead.

Edit: Doesn't Berkeley offer a business degree through Haas? I think UCLA offers an applied economics major now too.
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Don't know if this falls under a current category but, Work Ethics.

Teach kids that NOTHING is handed to them. To be someone, you have to work at it and fail.


I would ditch that class and then cheat on the final for a C.


you som (bleep)
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DuncanIdaho wrote:
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One that doesn't already exist? Personal finance.


Yep. Then maybe getting that 200k degree in some humanities field wouldn't look so hot.


Wait, what's wrong with a 200 k humanities degree? I regret having majored in Economics instead of English.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2016 5:02 pm    Post subject:

CandyCanes wrote:
jonnybravo wrote:
CandyCanes wrote:
DuncanIdaho wrote:
CandyCanes wrote:
DuncanIdaho wrote:
CandyCanes wrote:
DuncanIdaho wrote:
Huey Lewis & The News wrote:
One that doesn't already exist? Personal finance.


Yep. Then maybe getting that 200k degree in some humanities field wouldn't look so hot.


Wait, what's wrong with a 200 k humanities degree? I regret having majored in Economics instead of English.




I'm actually curious. Does having been an English major totally screw you over or something?

I took a PhD level English class on Victorian Lit my last semester and really regret not having more of those sorts of classes.


Let's just say you don't see many engineering or computer science graduates serving coffee at Starbucks.

Not saying humanities classes aren't valuable, they just don't help you at all if you make them your primary focus. And they're never worth the cost some kids are paying these days. There are very few tenured university teaching jobs available.


What do you think about Economics? So are you saying that my original decision wasn't so stupid after all?

I don't know. I just felt really bad at the end of college knowing that I majored in something I hated instead of something I actually enjoyed.


As an Economics major, when I first graduated, I found it to be viewed only slightly better than the rest of the Social Sciences. Unfortunately, the UC's didnt have Finance or Accounting as majors otherwise that was the route I would have gone. Looking back, getting one of those degrees at a Cal State might have been the wiser route for me. Every humanities major I still keep in touch with is either doing something completely unrelated or parlayed it into becoming lawyers.


I feel the same way. Econ definitely isn't on the level of a CS, math, or even finance degree in terms of employability. And it's a useless thing to learn too. Actual economists can't apply these concepts to predict things. How can people with BAs? It's literally just math applied to hypothetical situations which will never occur in the real world. And it tends to be pretty difficult too.

My other major was political science and I found that to be much more fulfilling. I wish I could have paired it with something like English or Philosophy instead.

Edit: Doesn't Berkeley offer a business degree through Haas? I think UCLA offers an applied economics major now too.


I'm not sure but you might be correct. Also bear in mind that I started underground 20+ years ago so I'm not sure what sort of undergraduate programs are available. IIRC, UCI added a business undergraduate program after I graduated. I vaguely recall (bleep) about it not being available when I went there.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2016 5:06 pm    Post subject:

frijolero01 wrote:
Huey Lewis & The News wrote:
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Don't know if this falls under a current category but, Work Ethics.

Teach kids that NOTHING is handed to them. To be someone, you have to work at it and fail.


I would ditch that class and then cheat on the final for a C.


you som (bleep)


Is this the class where you ace the test, but Professor Byron gives you a C to keep you humble and teach you how to man up?
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frijolero01 wrote:
Don't know if this falls under a current category but, Work Ethics.

Teach kids that NOTHING is handed to them. To be someone, you have to work at it and fail.


Looks like Byron Scott may have a job soon.
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