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Vin Star Player
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Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2016 12:46 pm Post subject: |
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D'Lo and Clarkson will be very close to that. |
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yinoma2001 Retired Number
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Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2016 12:48 pm Post subject: |
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Apparently more than a few NBA playoff teams don't have a 20ppg scorer:
Detroit: Jackson 19ppg
Dallas: Dirk 18ppg
Memphis: Gasol 16ppg
Hawks: Millsap 17ppg
Miami: Bosh/Wade 19ppg
3 teams had just 1 player with over 20ppg:
Boston: Thomas 22ppg
Spurs: Kahwai 21ppg
Charlotte: Kemba 21ppg _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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greenfrog Retired Number
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Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2016 12:50 pm Post subject: |
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Over a 1,000 FGA's were freed up the moment Kobe retired. How they are divvied up will be very interesting. I suspect some guys more than others will be hungrier to take them. |
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manlisten Star Player
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Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2016 12:57 pm Post subject: |
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I would say both D'lo and JC should be able to get it easily. I'm expecting D'lo's percentages to go up across the board, they were pretty low for how good of a shooter he's expected to be and like others have said he looks like he'll be able to draw fouls with regularity. Up those percentages and keep getting to the line and he won't even really need a big jump in FGA.
Clarkson I'm really expecting 20 ppg from him. He had a stretch last season when he was healthy in between the ankle and knee injuries where he was almost unconscious, putting up percentages that I think only Curry surpassed, of course on much lower volume. After all star weekend he got into a groove where he was really comfortable jacking 3s and hitting at a high clip. And as mentioned he'll finally get to play with D'lo which will improve his efficiency. Hopefully his weight training will make him more durable because those nagging injuries really slowed him down IMO. _________________ It was reminiscent of one of those Most Interesting Man in the World advertisements: "I don't always shoot 6-for-28 from the field, but when I do, I become the youngest player in league history to score 28,000 career points." |
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Megaton Retired Number
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yinoma2001 Retired Number
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Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2016 12:59 pm Post subject: |
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manlisten wrote: | I would say both D'lo and JC should be able to get it easily. I'm expecting D'lo's percentages to go up across the board, they were pretty low for how good of a shooter he's expected to be and like others have said he looks like he'll be able to draw fouls with regularity. Up those percentages and keep getting to the line and he won't even really need a big jump in FGA.
Clarkson I'm really expecting 20 ppg from him. He had a stretch last season when he was healthy in between the ankle and knee injuries where he was almost unconscious, putting up percentages that I think only Curry surpassed, of course on much lower volume. After all star weekend he got into a groove where he was really comfortable jacking 3s and hitting at a high clip. And as mentioned he'll finally get to play with D'lo which will improve his efficiency. Hopefully his weight training will make him more durable because those nagging injuries really slowed him down IMO. |
He really needs to get to the FT line more if he wants to be a consistent 20 ppg scorer. I think his 3 point shooting will come and go, and be around 35-36%. It's the line where he'll have to find those points. DLO is already learning how to get to the line with his post game. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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manlisten Star Player
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Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2016 1:06 pm Post subject: |
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Yea I agree that he needs to improve on getting to the line but I really believe there's a 40% 3 ball in his toolbox. I've always been impressed with how wet his shot is and how consistent his form is. If I remember right he started off the season pretty hot then came the ankle injury that he acknowledged had an effect on him. Then he got hot again before he tweaked his knee and dropped his numbers again. That's not to excuse him as these knick knacks happen and he needs to get stronger so they don't bother him as much but I truly think we'll see a sniper this year. _________________ It was reminiscent of one of those Most Interesting Man in the World advertisements: "I don't always shoot 6-for-28 from the field, but when I do, I become the youngest player in league history to score 28,000 career points." |
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yinoma2001 Retired Number
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Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2016 1:07 pm Post subject: |
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manlisten wrote: | Yea I agree that he needs to improve on getting to the line but I really believe there's a 40% 3 ball in his toolbox. I've always been impressed with how wet his shot is and how consistent his form is. If I remember right he started off the season pretty hot then came the ankle injury that he acknowledged had an effect on him. Then he got hot again before he tweaked his knee and dropped his numbers again. That's not to excuse him as these knick knacks happen and he needs to get stronger so they don't bother him as much but I truly think we'll see a sniper this year. |
Maybe. But 36% and his nice midrange game is already nice to have. This is why I don't understand the "JC needs to be the point guard" angle when it's been shown time and time again how much JC benefits from DLO setting him for 3s. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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Cochese Starting Rotation
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Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2016 1:12 pm Post subject: |
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I don't think we'll have a 20 PPG scorer. I think Clarkson and Russell will come the closest, but I think 17 PPG or so is more likely.
I think we are going to spread the scoring around a lot this year. |
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Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2016 1:12 pm Post subject: |
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Neither DLO or Clarkson had a 2:1 assist/TO rate last season. Clarkson did his rookie year. But that was pre-DLO.
I'm hoping both players can have at least a 2:1 assist/TO ratio this year. If everything is working optimally, opposing teams will have to treat both our combo guards as scoring and passing threats simultaneously.
Neither combo guard is dominant enough to be only asked to do 1 thing. Heck even the best players in the league, shouldn't be 1 dimensional. Not good for the team as a whole. _________________ "Every hurt is a lesson, and every lesson makes you better” |
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Inspector Gadget Retired Number
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Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2016 1:15 pm Post subject: |
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Cochese wrote: | I don't think we'll have a 20 PPG scorer. I think Clarkson and Russell will come the closest, but I think 17 PPG or so is more likely.
I think we are going to spread the scoring around a lot this year. |
Hope you are right. |
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manlisten Star Player
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Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2016 1:24 pm Post subject: |
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I think we will see a somewhat similar PPG/FGA distribution as the Warriors in recent years but with less bulk from the PG spot and more shots being spead around to the 3 and 4 spots. _________________ It was reminiscent of one of those Most Interesting Man in the World advertisements: "I don't always shoot 6-for-28 from the field, but when I do, I become the youngest player in league history to score 28,000 career points." |
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FanOfFour Star Player
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Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2016 1:31 pm Post subject: |
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I don't think there will be a 20 ppg scorer on the team. I think the starting backcourt will average 17+ points each, but neither will be 20. |
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Gomur Starting Rotation
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Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2016 1:37 pm Post subject: |
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Clarkson and DLo have the best chance this year. DLo will have the ball in his hands more as the PG, so it depends on his mindset. If he chooses to create for others versus himself. Clarkson is really talented and he has a new contract to "live up to", but he's naturally unselfish so that may take away some of his point production. A big factor is also the offense and how well people take to it. |
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yinoma2001 Retired Number
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Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2016 1:40 pm Post subject: |
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Look at how many NBA teams don't have a 20ppg scorer. It's actually pretty fascinating since most assume every team has a 20+ ppg scorer. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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panamaniac Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2016 1:45 pm Post subject: |
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19 PPG for Clarkson
17 for Dlo
13 for Deng
12 for Randle
10 for Ingram
that would give us more than enough scoring. |
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Vancouver Fan Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2016 1:47 pm Post subject: |
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yinoma2001 wrote: | Look at how many NBA teams don't have a 20ppg scorer. It's actually pretty fascinating since most assume every team has a 20+ ppg scorer. | Not surprising at all when you look at the fact only 20 players in the league averaged 20 or more and some of them were teammates. _________________ Music is my medicine |
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dcarter4kobe Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2016 1:50 pm Post subject: |
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yinoma2001 wrote: | Apparently more than a few NBA playoff teams don't have a 20ppg scorer:
Detroit: Jackson 19ppg
Dallas: Dirk 18ppg
Memphis: Gasol 16ppg
Hawks: Millsap 17ppg
Miami: Bosh/Wade 19ppg
3 teams had just 1 player with over 20ppg:
Boston: Thomas 22ppg
Spurs: Kahwai 21ppg
Charlotte: Kemba 21ppg |
All well coached teams that placed a high emphasis on defense _________________ "He's a Zen master, so he can speak to you, and he doesn't need a microphone; you can hear him in your head, 'Ron, don't shoot, don't shoot.' Whatever, pow, three. I love the Zen, though." |
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Inspector Gadget Retired Number
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Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2016 1:55 pm Post subject: |
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yinoma2001 wrote: | Apparently more than a few NBA playoff teams don't have a 20ppg scorer:
Detroit: Jackson 19ppg
Dallas: Dirk 18ppg
Memphis: Gasol 16ppg
Hawks: Millsap 17ppg
Miami: Bosh/Wade 19ppg
3 teams had just 1 player with over 20ppg:
Boston: Thomas 22ppg
Spurs: Kahwai 21ppg
Charlotte: Kemba 21ppg |
Hopefully we have the same balance as Portland, that's what made them win games and of course coaching. |
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dcarter4kobe Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2016 1:56 pm Post subject: |
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I could see something like
Mozgov 9/6
Randle 14/11
Deng 12/6
JC 20/4/4
Dlo 16/4/5
Lou 12/3/3
Ingram 11/4
Nance 7/4
Calderon
Black
JC averaged 1.16 points per shot in only 32MPG on 14 attempts with Kobe. If those minutes go (the attempts will automatically go up with no Kobe), there is no reason why JC cant average 20 a game next year. Especially with how much he works on his game. His defense just has to be solid enough to warrant the extra PT. _________________ "He's a Zen master, so he can speak to you, and he doesn't need a microphone; you can hear him in your head, 'Ron, don't shoot, don't shoot.' Whatever, pow, three. I love the Zen, though." |
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lakerlove123 Starting Rotation
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Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2016 2:17 pm Post subject: |
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Clarkson ~18
DLo ~ 18
Deng ~ 12
Randle ~ 10
Mozgov ~ 8
Starters: 66
Calderon ~ 6
Williams ~ 10
Ingram ~ 7
Nance ~ 7
Black ~ 6
Bench: 36
Zublocka ~2
Brown ~2
Superbench: 4
Total: 106 PPG
(for first half of season) |
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yohanone Sixth Man
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Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2016 3:55 pm Post subject: |
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In my opinion, on paper, JC has the highest chance to average 20 points per game, with D'Lo behind him. However in the long run, D'Lo has more potential than JC to become a superstar. This is how I see the season stats:
---Team PPG: 102---
D'Russ: 18
JC: 16
L-Deng: 10
Randle: 13
Mozzy: 8
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J-Calderon: 4
Lou Will: 8
B-Ingram: starter-14, bench-7
Nance: 7
Black: 5
Zubac: 4
Brown: 2 _________________ Thank You Kobe |
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Omar Little Moderator
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Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2016 4:06 pm Post subject: |
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yinoma2001 wrote: | Apparently more than a few NBA playoff teams don't have a 20ppg scorer:
Detroit: Jackson 19ppg
Dallas: Dirk 18ppg
Memphis: Gasol 16ppg
Hawks: Millsap 17ppg
Miami: Bosh/Wade 19ppg
3 teams had just 1 player with over 20ppg:
Boston: Thomas 22ppg
Spurs: Kahwai 21ppg
Charlotte: Kemba 21ppg |
There are 30 NBA teams and last year only 20 guys averaging 20 or more, so yeah, lots of teams don't have one. _________________ “We must always take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented.” ― Elie Wiesel |
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The Logo Star Player
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Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2016 4:18 pm Post subject: |
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The two candidates I'd assume are Clarkson and Russell. I have Russell averaging around 17 points per game next season and Clarkson around 18-19 points per game. |
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Sina Star Player
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Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2016 4:56 pm Post subject: |
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Dlo and JC could close to that |
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