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yinoma2001 Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2016 7:27 am Post subject: |
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Dave20 wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: | Dave20 wrote: | evetssteve10 wrote: | Dave20 wrote: | I think Russell going to the bench and having to not play with Kobe and Hibbert helped his game out a lot. Clarkson had to defer to Kobe and at times Lou and still avg 15.5 pts which is impressive. I think without those circumstances he will have a breakout year under Luke. |
Sorry but if you think playing next to Kobe is a hindrance to a players game you need to check your history | Playing next to Kobe in his final year was brutal. Not talking about his entire career. |
How was it brutal for JC? He led the team in minutes and was 2nd in shot attempts. | It was brutal for JC, Russell, and us fans for having to watch it. It stunted his development. |
Sure, but you make it sound like JC bore the brunt of it, when he didn't. Started every game he played. 2nd most shots, most minutes. Meanwhile DLO/Randle yanked and jerked around by Byron game-to-game. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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lakerhaterhater Starting Rotation
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Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2016 8:09 am Post subject: |
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Whoever manages to get to the line more and shoots a higher clip from 3-land |
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evetssteve10 Star Player
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Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2016 8:21 am Post subject: |
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Dave20 wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: | Dave20 wrote: | evetssteve10 wrote: | Dave20 wrote: | I think Russell going to the bench and having to not play with Kobe and Hibbert helped his game out a lot. Clarkson had to defer to Kobe and at times Lou and still avg 15.5 pts which is impressive. I think without those circumstances he will have a breakout year under Luke. |
Sorry but if you think playing next to Kobe is a hindrance to a players game you need to check your history | Playing next to Kobe in his final year was brutal. Not talking about his entire career. |
How was it brutal for JC? He led the team in minutes and was 2nd in shot attempts. | It was brutal for JC, Russell, and us fans for having to watch it. It stunted his development. |
This is a ridiculous claim that it stunted his growth please show me a shred of evidence that shows this. Kobe has done nothing but help these kids _________________ "Bryant has been the second best player in the NBA for over a decade, but the number 1 player changes every other year. Somehow the number 1 player always seems to fall down the list but Kobe just never moves up. ". The Art of Hating Kobe Bryant |
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yinoma2001 Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2016 8:23 am Post subject: |
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evetssteve10 wrote: | Dave20 wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: | Dave20 wrote: | evetssteve10 wrote: | Dave20 wrote: | I think Russell going to the bench and having to not play with Kobe and Hibbert helped his game out a lot. Clarkson had to defer to Kobe and at times Lou and still avg 15.5 pts which is impressive. I think without those circumstances he will have a breakout year under Luke. |
Sorry but if you think playing next to Kobe is a hindrance to a players game you need to check your history | Playing next to Kobe in his final year was brutal. Not talking about his entire career. |
How was it brutal for JC? He led the team in minutes and was 2nd in shot attempts. | It was brutal for JC, Russell, and us fans for having to watch it. It stunted his development. |
This is a ridiculous claim that it stunted his growth please show me a shred of evidence that shows this. Kobe has done nothing but help these kids |
His claim has and always will be that JC should have taken the most shots and been the "leader," even though JC isn't the "leader" type of guy. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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venturalakersfan Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2016 9:36 am Post subject: |
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evetssteve10 wrote: | Dave20 wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: | Dave20 wrote: | evetssteve10 wrote: | Dave20 wrote: | I think Russell going to the bench and having to not play with Kobe and Hibbert helped his game out a lot. Clarkson had to defer to Kobe and at times Lou and still avg 15.5 pts which is impressive. I think without those circumstances he will have a breakout year under Luke. |
Sorry but if you think playing next to Kobe is a hindrance to a players game you need to check your history | Playing next to Kobe in his final year was brutal. Not talking about his entire career. |
How was it brutal for JC? He led the team in minutes and was 2nd in shot attempts. | It was brutal for JC, Russell, and us fans for having to watch it. It stunted his development. |
This is a ridiculous claim that it stunted his growth please show me a shred of evidence that shows this. Kobe has done nothing but help these kids |
Dave doesn't do evidence. Only hyperbole. _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023. |
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HellCrowe Starting Rotation
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Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2016 12:16 pm Post subject: |
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JC 18
DLO 19
Randle 14
Deng 14
Mozgov 8
Nance 8
Ingram 8
Calderon 8
Lou 12
109 ppg |
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greenfrog Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2016 1:07 pm Post subject: |
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Who will lead the team in FGA's? I think Randle's got a shot. |
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defense Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2016 1:20 pm Post subject: |
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HellCrowe wrote: | JC 18
DLO 19
Randle 14
Deng 14
Mozgov 8
Nance 8
Ingram 8
Calderon 8
Lou 12
109 ppg |
We are going to go from dead last (97ppg) to top 3 in one season? |
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dj1337 Starting Rotation
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Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2016 1:23 pm Post subject: |
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defense wrote: | HellCrowe wrote: | JC 18
DLO 19
Randle 14
Deng 14
Mozgov 8
Nance 8
Ingram 8
Calderon 8
Lou 12
109 ppg |
We are going to go from dead last (97ppg) to top 3 in one season? |
Could be possible but adding up teammates PPG does not equal team PPG like it has been said numerous times around here. |
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defense Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2016 1:29 pm Post subject: |
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dj1337 wrote: | defense wrote: | HellCrowe wrote: | JC 18
DLO 19
Randle 14
Deng 14
Mozgov 8
Nance 8
Ingram 8
Calderon 8
Lou 12
109 ppg |
We are going to go from dead last (97ppg) to top 3 in one season? |
Could be possible but adding up teammates PPG does not equal team PPG like it has been said numerous times around here. |
I'm not adding up anything. It specifically says 109ppg which would be good for 1st, 2nd or 3rd in the league. |
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dj1337 Starting Rotation
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Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2016 4:01 pm Post subject: |
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ah my bad just assumed you made that mistake like most do on the forum. my comment was more for the last guy who said we will go to top3. |
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defense Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2016 4:13 pm Post subject: |
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dj1337 wrote: | ah my bad just assumed you made that mistake like most do on the forum. my comment was more for the last guy who said we will go to top3. |
no harm done |
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The Logo Star Player
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Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2016 6:01 pm Post subject: |
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defense wrote: | HellCrowe wrote: | JC 18
DLO 19
Randle 14
Deng 14
Mozgov 8
Nance 8
Ingram 8
Calderon 8
Lou 12
109 ppg |
We are going to go from dead last (97ppg) to top 3 in one season? |
Depends largely on pace (we were 18th last year in that category), but 109 PPG is unlikely considering only two teams last year scored at least 109 PPG. |
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mirak Star Player
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Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2016 6:03 pm Post subject: |
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I think DLo could easily be a 20 point scorer on a bad team, probably JC as well (though I doubt both at the same time). I just hope they can do that on a good team as well.
Does anyone remember our "go-to" guy on those marginal (mid-90's) playoff teams? Cedric Ceballos. Someone has to score the points.
I have so much hope for this team, but there's so much we just don't know. |
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Car54 Franchise Player
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Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2016 7:06 am Post subject: |
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kikanga wrote: | dlofan wrote: | fiendishoc wrote: | dlofan wrote: | DLO can score 20 PPG in his sleep. If Steph Curry can score 30/game, DLO can score 35. However there is one difference between Steph and DLO. DLO is a team player, a true leader who tries to make others better and spreads the ball. He is a team player unlike Steph. If DLO fails to get 20 PPG, there is only one reason. He is just trying to make his teammates better |
You bring up the Warriors an awful lot. |
Its pretty clear to me that we are following the Warriors philosophy to build post-Kobe era and there are a lot of similarities
Our young point guard has the same skillset as theirs
Our young power forward has an all around game like theirs. Randle has even compared himself to Green in interviews
Ingram is very similar to Durant
Deng is a player who can defend the 3 or 4. can hit the open long ball, can drive to the hoop, can rebound his position......sounds a little like how Golden State used Iguadola and Barnes
And we hire their top assistant coach, who will bring the same philosophies, structure, and sets that the Warriors use |
I admire your bluntness. Alot of people will only imply that they think DLO is the next Steph Curry. But you have the balls to flat out say it.
I'm not sure DLO will ever be a 2 time reigning MVP with one year as a unanimous choice. But I like that you have the guts to openly compare the two anyways. |
He said skill set but whatever _________________ Coach Vogel, Kidd, Hollins
Max slot : Kawhi |
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CBaller8 Franchise Player
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Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2016 11:57 am Post subject: |
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Run TMC had 3 guys average over 20 ppg. If they can do it, then so can we. |
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underdogsgv Starting Rotation
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Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2017 6:47 am Post subject: |
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yinoma2001 wrote: | underdogsgv wrote: | Clarkson 17/3/3
Russell 16/6/6
Randle 13/10/2
Deng 12/6/2
Mozgov 8/7/1
Lou Williams 13/2/2
Ingram 6/3/1
Nance 6/6/1
Black 4/4/1
Calderon 3/1/3
Zubac 3/3/1
Brown 1/1/1
Huertas 2/1/2 |
I think Ingram will do a lot better than 6/3/1. |
Right. |
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Mike@LG Moderator
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Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2017 7:22 am Post subject: |
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I'm hoping, through the draft. _________________ Resident Car Nut.
https://lakersdraft.substack.com/
I am not an economic advisor nor do I advise economic strategies or plans. |
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ringfinger Retired Number
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Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2017 7:29 am Post subject: |
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I think so, depending on the minutes distribution. I think JC has the best shot at it though, because of his ability to drive to the hoop for easy buckets. |
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Ziggy Franchise Player
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Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2017 7:31 am Post subject: |
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old thread.
I pretty much dismissed BI as being a contributor this season. I said anything he'd give is just gravy. |
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Sina Star Player
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Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2017 7:45 am Post subject: |
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Dlo could be the one if he was not asked to set up the offense first, but it's good to him. Mac also has a shot should Lou was not here |
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governator Franchise Player
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Zubac... the breakout version... Jokic 2.0 |
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Wildchild027 Star Player
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Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2017 8:12 am Post subject: |
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ringfinger wrote: | I think so, depending on the minutes distribution. I think JC has the best shot at it though, because of his ability to drive to the hoop for easy buckets. |
The question was for this season, and no one, and Lou was the best player before he got traded, will come close to averaging 20. |
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yinoma2001 Retired Number
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Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2017 8:22 am Post subject: |
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underdogsgv wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: | underdogsgv wrote: | Clarkson 17/3/3
Russell 16/6/6
Randle 13/10/2
Deng 12/6/2
Mozgov 8/7/1
Lou Williams 13/2/2
Ingram 6/3/1
Nance 6/6/1
Black 4/4/1
Calderon 3/1/3
Zubac 3/3/1
Brown 1/1/1
Huertas 2/1/2 |
I think Ingram will do a lot better than 6/3/1. |
Right. |
Ok. 8/4/2. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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yinoma2001 Retired Number
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Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2017 8:23 am Post subject: |
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underdogsgv wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: | underdogsgv wrote: | Clarkson 17/3/3
Russell 16/6/6
Randle 13/10/2
Deng 12/6/2
Mozgov 8/7/1
Lou Williams 13/2/2
Ingram 6/3/1
Nance 6/6/1
Black 4/4/1
Calderon 3/1/3
Zubac 3/3/1
Brown 1/1/1
Huertas 2/1/2 |
I think Ingram will do a lot better than 6/3/1. |
Right. |
Ok. 8/4/2. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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