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ryan_c Star Player
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Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2016 10:01 pm Post subject: |
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Jabari Brown, if I can remember correctly, dropped 50 points in Drew league. So I won't make any conclusion about Randle playing based on a kids league. |
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panamaniac Franchise Player
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Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2016 10:17 pm Post subject: |
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His hair looks shorter. He must have watched KIROEs vids. |
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lakurluv Star Player
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Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2016 4:48 am Post subject: |
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Randle is a legit 250 pounds and it looks like he now has more muscle than fat, so that would definitely make a huge difference in his athleticism and explosiveness.
Whenever he's inside, he's a load against anyone even at the NBA level. He's too big and too quick for a lot of 4's down there. Those guys in the Drew league aren't even a capable match up, even if you were to put there biggest guy on him, he should legitimately eat them up inside all day long.
It'll be interesting to see him this upcoming season as the floor will be more wide open, if he's capable of having another double double year. |
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NYCLaker Sixth Man
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Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2016 4:59 am Post subject: |
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THing with basketball is that being bigger, isn't better.
If this was some strongman comp, than yea, bigger is better, but basketball is not the case. |
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J.C. Smith Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2016 5:31 am Post subject: |
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NYCLaker wrote: | THing with basketball is that being bigger, isn't better.
If this was some strongman comp, than yea, bigger is better, but basketball is not the case. |
Being bigger absolutely does matter in basketball. Height, Length, Strength, those are very important things when battling for rebounds, fighting for position, or getting your shot off on offense. You'd hope he doesn't lose any explosiveness as he does. |
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NYCLaker Sixth Man
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Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2016 5:38 am Post subject: |
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J.C. Smith wrote: | NYCLaker wrote: | THing with basketball is that being bigger, isn't better.
If this was some strongman comp, than yea, bigger is better, but basketball is not the case. |
Being bigger absolutely does matter in basketball. Height, Length, Strength, those are very important things when battling for rebounds, fighting for position, or getting your shot off on offense. You'd hope he doesn't lose any explosiveness as he does. |
That's being taller and longer. However, Randle imo is too big.
When your that big/muscular, your stamina will be difficult to maintain in a game of basketball. Hence, why most people that play bball aren't the biggest guys in the world. Last season, Randle went by doing very little in terms of dirty work or playing defense and stamina wise, wasn't able to be effective all game around. |
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LongBeachPoly Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2016 9:55 am Post subject: |
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NYCLaker wrote: | J.C. Smith wrote: | NYCLaker wrote: | THing with basketball is that being bigger, isn't better.
If this was some strongman comp, than yea, bigger is better, but basketball is not the case. |
Being bigger absolutely does matter in basketball. Height, Length, Strength, those are very important things when battling for rebounds, fighting for position, or getting your shot off on offense. You'd hope he doesn't lose any explosiveness as he does. |
That's being taller and longer. However, Randle imo is too big.
When your that big/muscular, your stamina will be difficult to maintain in a game of basketball. Hence, why most people that play bball aren't the biggest guys in the world. Last season, Randle went by doing very little in terms of dirty work or playing defense and stamina wise, wasn't able to be effective all game around. |
Shaq being bigger than everyone helped. |
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J.C. Smith Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2016 10:09 am Post subject: |
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NYCLaker wrote: | When your that big/muscular, your stamina will be difficult to maintain in a game of basketball. Hence, why most people that play bball aren't the biggest guys in the world. Last season, Randle went by doing very little in terms of dirty work or playing defense and stamina wise, wasn't able to be effective all game around. |
That's an oversimplification. Karl Malone was one of the largest and muscular players you'd ever see, he averaged over 37 minutes a game (and twice over 40 minutes per game) over an 18 year career, while being an absolute iron man and never missing time. Dwight Howard (pre-back injury) is another more recent example, and it didn't seem to hinder his athleticism in the least bit. There are certainly arguments for not bulking up to maintain quickness, but everyone's body is also different and if you are converting fat into muscle that may not be the case as well, and there are also arguments on the other side of that. Strength is certainly an important attribute for fighting through contact, fighting for and maintaining position. |
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yinoma2001 Retired Number
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Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2016 10:12 am Post subject: |
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Why don't we give Jules some time with Coach Luke before writing him off. I still think we have a lot of untapped talent clay. Seems he got away with his strength and bull in china shop play when he was younger (though he seemed to be a more fluid scorer back in the day IIRC). _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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NYCLaker Sixth Man
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Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2016 10:20 am Post subject: |
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J.C. Smith wrote: | NYCLaker wrote: | When your that big/muscular, your stamina will be difficult to maintain in a game of basketball. Hence, why most people that play bball aren't the biggest guys in the world. Last season, Randle went by doing very little in terms of dirty work or playing defense and stamina wise, wasn't able to be effective all game around. |
That's an oversimplification. Karl Malone was one of the largest and muscular players you'd ever see, he averaged over 37 minutes a game (and twice over 40 minutes per game) over an 18 year career, while being an absolute iron man and never missing time. Dwight Howard (pre-back injury) is another more recent example, and it didn't seem to hinder his athleticism in the least bit. There are certainly arguments for not bulking up to maintain quickness, but everyone's body is also different and if you are converting fat into muscle that may not be the case as well, and there are also arguments on the other side of that. Strength is certainly an important attribute for fighting through contact, fighting for and maintaining position. |
Good points on Malone. However, Malone is a rare beast. He might of looked like a muscleman competitor, but Malone might of been the best conditioned athlete in the NBA ever along with Dennis Rodman.
Randle, on the other hand is not. As we saw last season, he took off a lot of plays and hardly contributes defensively. |
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KindCrippler2000 Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2016 10:26 am Post subject: |
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why can't randall dunks? |
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Thugnomoe Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2016 10:49 am Post subject: |
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jumper and defense. we all know he needs to work on that..
a bit disappointed that it only showed him going back to what he knows he can do.. overpower guys in the post.. especially non-NBA guys.
his team got smashed? dang.. |
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laker50 Star Player
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Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2016 10:54 am Post subject: |
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Julius Randle has the physical gifts.
All he has to do is to learn to shoot a jumper from mid range. Doesn't have to be dead eye but at least shoot an average percentage and have confidence in
the shot.
One Julius gets that he will be a fine player.
But until then the other teams will play him for the drive and give him
the open jumper all day. |
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Outspoken Star Player
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Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2016 11:37 am Post subject: |
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kikanga wrote: | No clips of him playing defense!!
Just kidding.
Just like mocking posters from the Clarkson thread.
Way to compete hard Randle! |
the joke is valid. you see the inconsistency in here.
Randle is a beast. |
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yinoma2001 Retired Number
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Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2016 11:39 am Post subject: |
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Outspoken wrote: | kikanga wrote: | No clips of him playing defense!!
Just kidding.
Just like mocking posters from the Clarkson thread.
Way to compete hard Randle! |
the joke is valid. you see the inconsistency in here.
Randle is a beast. |
Wow. So serious. I think 99% of the reactions in the JC thread is b/c of 1 poster. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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kikanga Retired Number
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Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2016 12:28 pm Post subject: |
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yinoma2001 wrote: | Outspoken wrote: | kikanga wrote: | No clips of him playing defense!!
Just kidding.
Just like mocking posters from the Clarkson thread.
Way to compete hard Randle! |
the joke is valid. you see the inconsistency in here.
Randle is a beast. |
Wow. So serious. I think 99% of the reactions in the JC thread is b/c of 1 poster. |
It's the same for our other young guys as well. Someone compared DLO to Fisher once upon a time. And it's still a meme here at LG.
But whatever. We're only talking about this because of offseason boredom. _________________ "Every hurt is a lesson, and every lesson makes you better”
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yinoma2001 Retired Number
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Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2016 12:32 pm Post subject: |
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kikanga wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: | Outspoken wrote: | kikanga wrote: | No clips of him playing defense!!
Just kidding.
Just like mocking posters from the Clarkson thread.
Way to compete hard Randle! |
the joke is valid. you see the inconsistency in here.
Randle is a beast. |
Wow. So serious. I think 99% of the reactions in the JC thread is b/c of 1 poster. |
A similar small amount of posters have criticized our other young guard. And I remember you taking it seriously.
But whatever. We're only talking about this because of offseason boredom. |
Nice try equivocating. I have like 10% of Dave20's fanaticism towards JC. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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kikanga Retired Number
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Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2016 12:32 pm Post subject: |
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yinoma2001 wrote: | kikanga wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: | Outspoken wrote: | kikanga wrote: | No clips of him playing defense!!
Just kidding.
Just like mocking posters from the Clarkson thread.
Way to compete hard Randle! |
the joke is valid. you see the inconsistency in here.
Randle is a beast. |
Wow. So serious. I think 99% of the reactions in the JC thread is b/c of 1 poster. |
A similar small amount of posters have criticized our other young guard. And I remember you taking it seriously.
But whatever. We're only talking about this because of offseason boredom. |
Nice try equivocating. I have like 10% of Dave20's fanaticism towards JC. |
Suuuure. Whatever. I'm team MOZGOD!!!! _________________ "Every hurt is a lesson, and every lesson makes you better”
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yinoma2001 Retired Number
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Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2016 12:33 pm Post subject: |
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kikanga wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: | kikanga wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: | Outspoken wrote: | kikanga wrote: | No clips of him playing defense!!
Just kidding.
Just like mocking posters from the Clarkson thread.
Way to compete hard Randle! |
the joke is valid. you see the inconsistency in here.
Randle is a beast. |
Wow. So serious. I think 99% of the reactions in the JC thread is b/c of 1 poster. |
A similar small amount of posters have criticized our other young guard. And I remember you taking it seriously.
But whatever. We're only talking about this because of offseason boredom. |
Nice try equivocating. I have like 10% of Dave20's fanaticism towards JC. |
Suuuure. |
Yeah Mudiay-boy... _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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kikanga Retired Number
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Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2016 12:34 pm Post subject: |
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yinoma2001 wrote: | kikanga wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: | kikanga wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: | Outspoken wrote: | kikanga wrote: | No clips of him playing defense!!
Just kidding.
Just like mocking posters from the Clarkson thread.
Way to compete hard Randle! |
the joke is valid. you see the inconsistency in here.
Randle is a beast. |
Wow. So serious. I think 99% of the reactions in the JC thread is b/c of 1 poster. |
A similar small amount of posters have criticized our other young guard. And I remember you taking it seriously.
But whatever. We're only talking about this because of offseason boredom. |
Nice try equivocating. I have like 10% of Dave20's fanaticism towards JC. |
Suuuure. |
Yeah Mudiay-boy... |
Not anymore. I'm team DLo.
He has ice in his veins. And fire on his hidden camera phone. _________________ "Every hurt is a lesson, and every lesson makes you better” |
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pjiddy Retired Number
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Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2016 1:38 pm Post subject: |
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KindCrippler2000 wrote: | why can't randall dunks? |
I wonder if he's still afraid to jump off (and land) on that leg he broke.
Also not a bad thing if he's not going 110% in a Drew League game and risking injury. |
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NYCLaker Sixth Man
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Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2016 1:49 pm Post subject: |
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pjiddy wrote: | KindCrippler2000 wrote: | why can't randall dunks? |
I wonder if he's still afraid to jump off (and land) on that leg he broke.
Also not a bad thing if he's not going 110% in a Drew League game and risking injury. |
Could be the injury.
However, I think it's handsize, lack of no step vertical, and wingspan/length. |
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kikanga Retired Number
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Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2016 1:51 pm Post subject: |
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pjiddy wrote: | KindCrippler2000 wrote: | why can't randall dunks? |
I wonder if he's still afraid to jump off (and land) on that leg he broke.
Also not a bad thing if he's not going 110% in a Drew League game and risking injury. |
He is the most unique PF in the league.
Can't think of a PF in the league better than him at dribble penetration. And he's only 21. Can't overstate how impressive that is.
But he really isn't an above the rim player. Of course he can dunk. But his dribble and paint moves are more forceful than explosive. And off-ball, he doesn't screen and roll to the basket hard consistently. Which is how alot of 4s and 5s get easy lob dunks in games. _________________ "Every hurt is a lesson, and every lesson makes you better” |
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watchME Star Player
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Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2016 2:20 pm Post subject: |
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Randle needs to learn to put the ball closer to the backboard when attempting lay ups. he literally makes every lay up harder by jumper and waiting almost to land to throw it off the back board |
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Purp 32 Star Player
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Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2016 2:29 pm Post subject: |
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A lot of those shots around the basket get rejected in the NBA, even NBDL. He REALLY needs to get a mid range game. |
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