Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2016 5:37 pm Post subject: I'm pulling for Mozgov to prove doubters wrong
I can't believe the whining, and why he got the extension from everyone,
I can understand the NBA crowd but Laker fans need to show some loyalty and support.
He can end up having a big Impact and I'm not surprised that people can't accept the move and just support Mozgov with him officially being on the team.
That's why the fan base gets crapped on,
You see guys like Conley and Evan Turner getting mega deals but you hardly see any whining from anyone..
Really? Thanks for completely changing the subject of the thread.
Yea! It's not like there was another Mozgov thread he could have written this in.... If only there were a thread titled "Lakers sign Timofey Mozgov to a 4 year, $64M deal" or something.
Really? Thanks for completely changing the subject of the thread.
Yea! It's not like there was another Mozgov thread he could have written this in.... If only there were a thread titled "Lakers sign Timofey Mozgov to a 4 year, $64M deal" or something.
I just wanted to voice that it's frustrating seeing fans continually whine about the contract rather then supporting Mozgov the Laker.
Really? Thanks for completely changing the subject of the thread.
Yea! It's not like there was another Mozgov thread he could have written this in.... If only there were a thread titled "Lakers sign Timofey Mozgov to a 4 year, $64M deal" or something.
I just wanted to voice that it's frustrating seeing fans continually whine about the contract rather then supporting Mozgov the Laker.
I don't generally bash the OP (in either his current or previous incarnation). He's certainly entitled to post his opinions, and I'm not at all a fan of the mean-spirited attacks directed his way. But sometimes less is more (fewer threads).
other than an injury, there's nothing to fear from this guy. He's going to play well, he won't become super popular for various non basketball reasons. But he will most likely play like a borderline all star.
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Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2016 9:56 pm Post subject:
I kinda wish we were starting Zubac instead of Mozgov this year.
Mozgov is a better player. But what is the win difference really?
Instead of 30-35 wins starting Moz, we win 25-30 starting Zubac?
I dunno. Maybe I'm underestimating Mozgov or overestimating Zubac. Mozgov got that fat paycheck, so it's a moot point. No matter what, he'll be getting the lion's share of minutes at C. _________________ "Every hurt is a lesson, and every lesson makes you better”
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I think he will do fine. We signed him for a reason. The offense is basically about screens and he sets damn good ones. He also has good hands which helps him convert on the offensive end. He has no problems dunking the ball. I'm top of that he is a good rim protector and passer. He is a decent ft shooter too.
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Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2016 1:00 am Post subject:
kikanga wrote:
I kinda wish we were starting Zubac instead of Mozgov this year.
Mozgov is a better player. But what is the win difference really?
Instead of 30-35 wins starting Moz, we win 25-30 starting Zubac?
I dunno. Maybe I'm underestimating Mozgov. He got that fat paycheck, so it's a moot point. No matter what, he'll be getting the lion's share of minutes at C.
I think it's possible he might actually take that starting job from Moz.. And I do believe it was a good signing, he will prove many wrong.
I don't think anybody here is genuinely rooting for Mozgov to fail. He will obviously have an important role on the team. Him going back to his 2015 self would inch this team closer to the playoffs.
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Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2016 5:03 am Post subject:
I don't share the OP's presumed sense of fan obligation to broadcast sheep-like "support" for Laker players.
I hope Mozgov plays great because I want to see the Lakers succeed.
However, I don't confuse that desire and that hope with my sense of what's likely to happen, nor with my sense for the player's history, his physical condition, nor for his playing ability. We have a center who's among the league's lower third (at best) of starting centers and we're stuck with him for quite a while going forward. Doesn't make me happy. Less money, less contract span would have been far smarter. _________________ “These GOAT discussions are fun distractions while sitting around waiting for the pizza to be served.”
I don't share the OP's presumed sense of fan obligation to broadcast sheep-like "support" for Laker players.
I hope Mozgov plays great because I want to see the Lakers succeed.
However, I don't confuse that desire and that hope with my sense of what's likely to happen, nor with my sense for the player's history, his physical condition, nor for his playing ability. We have a center who's among the league's lower third (at best) of starting centers and we're stuck with him for quite a while going forward. Doesn't make me happy. Less money, less contract span would have been far smarter.
Going to quibble here. But I would consider him more in the mid teens to lower teens at his best.
I think some are underestimating his level of play. Not the most flashy or attention grabbing but as an all around solid professional center he is pretty good.
I kinda wish we were starting Zubac instead of Mozgov this year.
Mozgov is a better player. But what is the win difference really?
Instead of 30-35 wins starting Moz, we win 25-30 starting Zubac?
I dunno. Maybe I'm underestimating Mozgov or overestimating Zubac. Mozgov got that fat paycheck, so it's a moot point. No matter what, he'll be getting the lion's share of minutes at C.
I don't think Zubac is ready physically or in terms of skill set to play starter's minutes over 82 games. Not all of our young guys need to be rushed to the starting lineup. I'd probably go with Black before Zu if we're talking about starting.
I kinda wish we were starting Zubac instead of Mozgov this year.
Mozgov is a better player. But what is the win difference really?
Instead of 30-35 wins starting Moz, we win 25-30 starting Zubac?
I dunno. Maybe I'm underestimating Mozgov or overestimating Zubac. Mozgov got that fat paycheck, so it's a moot point. No matter what, he'll be getting the lion's share of minutes at C.
I don't think Zubac is ready physically or in terms of skill set to play starter's minutes over 82 games. Not all of our young guys need to be rushed to the starting lineup. I'd probably go with Black before Zu if we're talking about starting.
Yeah. People are reading a bit too much into an impressive SPL performance. Make no mistake, teams will attack Zub off PnRs. He will have to get used to NBA speed, especially under those circumstances.
Give him time. I think Zub can be our starting center in 2-3 years, precisely when Moz's deal gets closer to expiration. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals
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Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2016 9:41 am Post subject:
Wilkes52 wrote:
I don't share the OP's presumed sense of fan obligation to broadcast sheep-like "support" for Laker players.
I hope Mozgov plays great because I want to see the Lakers succeed.
However, I don't confuse that desire and that hope with my sense of what's likely to happen, nor with my sense for the player's history, his physical condition, nor for his playing ability. We have a center who's among the league's lower third (at best) of starting centers and we're stuck with him for quite a while going forward. Doesn't make me happy. Less money, less contract span would have been far smarter.
And landed a player that wouldn't be nearly as good as Mosgov. The FO was trying to improve the team, not maintain a bottom 2 record. And they have the money, they don't need to shop at the 99 cents store. _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023.
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