does randle really need to be draymond greene?
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2016 11:45 am    Post subject:

No, but he should learn from him because he's capable of doing similar things on the court.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2016 11:59 am    Post subject:

Julius Randle has yet to find Julius Randle.

This season in the new offense will give us a clearer picture of what he can become.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2016 12:46 pm    Post subject:

Brian Greene is one of my favorite authors but that doesn't mean I should write like him. Julian Randall should be his own player.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2016 2:12 pm    Post subject:

I'm excited to see him become more and more of a physical specimen. I think he's going to be a 180degree different player this year in terms of like - competence, IQ, passing. I think he'll be a top 5 playmaker at the PF position. But I'm still very worried about his defense, finishing, shooting ---- think about it, if he can get one of these 3 things down - added on top of the playmaking that Luke will bring out of him --- that's a solid productive player.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2016 2:57 pm    Post subject:

venturalakersfan wrote:
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Randle doesnt bring intensity half of what DG brings
nor does randle play any kind of defense. forget at DGs level


Neither did DG his rookie year. Horrible comparison.


BS from u as always. Nothing new. His intensity and defense was always there but please continue
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2016 3:35 pm    Post subject:

No. I don't think he's versatile enough.

I think he should study Blake Griffin. He has almost the same game but without the shooting and freakish athleticism.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2016 4:05 pm    Post subject:

Jim99187 wrote:
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Randle doesnt bring intensity half of what DG brings
nor does randle play any kind of defense. forget at DGs level


Neither did DG his rookie year. Horrible comparison.


BS from u as always. Nothing new. His intensity and defense was always there but please continue


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2016 4:56 pm    Post subject:

Randle should be the best J. Randle he can be... The Lakers don't need to be the GSW, the Lakers need to beat them...

Try to clone the Warriors? Really? That makes us a distant imitation.


I say let Luke settle, the kids develop and then we'll see what we have and what we need to win, not imitate.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2016 5:25 pm    Post subject:

No, I would rather he be a good person and develop his own style.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2016 5:42 pm    Post subject:

Randle has a long way to go. He needs to be able to defend every position, know how to play with balance, be adept at shooting 3's, and finish with both hands.

I do hope JR can become a Draymond Green, but I find that an overwhelming task.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2016 6:03 pm    Post subject:

deal wrote:
Randle should be the best J. Randle he can be... The Lakers don't need to be the GSW, the Lakers need to beat them...

Try to clone the Warriors? Really? That makes us a distant imitation.


I say let Luke settle, the kids develop and then we'll see what we have and what we need to win, not imitate.


That is what is happening going forward, letting the young players play and see what we have with them. Green very well could have cost the Warriors a title, glad Julius has a better demeanor.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2016 6:23 pm    Post subject:

venturalakersfan wrote:
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Randle should be the best J. Randle he can be... The Lakers don't need to be the GSW, the Lakers need to beat them...

Try to clone the Warriors? Really? That makes us a distant imitation.


I say let Luke settle, the kids develop and then we'll see what we have and what we need to win, not imitate.


That is what is happening going forward, letting the young players play and see what we have with them. Green very well could have cost the Warriors a title, glad Julius has a better demeanor.


Funny you say that --- an odd comment from Mitch last summer was that he thought Randle would get frustrated and get technicals. Randle's not that fiery imo.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2016 6:30 pm    Post subject:

venturalakersfan wrote:
deal wrote:
Randle should be the best J. Randle he can be... The Lakers don't need to be the GSW, the Lakers need to beat them...

Try to clone the Warriors? Really? That makes us a distant imitation.


I say let Luke settle, the kids develop and then we'll see what we have and what we need to win, not imitate.


That is what is happening going forward, letting the young players play and see what we have with them. Green very well could have cost the Warriors a title, glad Julius has a better demeanor.


only thing is demeanor doesnt win you anything if you dont hvae the game.

if you got the game, people tolerate the demeanor, ask Rodman to kobe to artest to DG
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2016 7:45 pm    Post subject:

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to me, Randle's offensive game actually looks more like a less athletic, poor man version of a young LeBron
If by poor, you mean six figures' debt of student loans, credit card bills, etc., then maybe I see it.

Perhaps homeless man is more accurate.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2016 6:15 am    Post subject:

I don't truly believe that the two should be compared because their games are very different. Although they are both tweener size and very athletic with the ball, Draymond's game is more complete than Randle's currently because he can hit the outside three ball. Randle will have to try to develop this skill set over time.
The second part of their game is "Control". Green has far more control over his body athletically especially when creating off the dribble and getting to the rim. Randle has yet to refine this aspect of his game.
The Third and possibly most glaring difference between the two is Basketball IQ. Green has a far more higher IQ than Randle and maybe you can attribute it to his years in college and playing under a high profile coach.
One thing I believe that Randle can add to his game from Draymond is simply his level of activity! Green has a very high motor which Randle can afford to add to his game; Green's ability to go from end to end and play exceptionally hard on both ends of the floor is a catalyst aspect for the warriors, any team would be that much better to have someone who has that attribute!
Randle will be fine, he will provide what this team needs over time and will fit, because he will come to know that he doesn't need to be ball dominant in order to dominate! Most players can't grasp this concept!
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2016 6:27 am    Post subject:

Yeah, the more I think about it, Jules/Green are fundamentally different players.

Jules was a heralded blue chip prospect, well known since his teenage years. He was a top recruit and "star" in college. Lottery pick with all the bells and whistles.

Dray was an unheralded guy, not sure if he was even a top 15 college recruit. Toiled 4 years in college, went in the 2nd round.

I think they approached their first years with different mentalities. As a top draft pick, Jules has a different set of expectations on him than Dray did. Dray just happened to scratch and claw his way to an all-NBA/all-star/all-defender/Olympics/NBA champ status. We'd be lucky if Jules could get there. Someone on that podcast with GT said it best, whether Jules is just hardwired a certain way on offense to be an iso scorer rather than a blue collar guy. That's the 64m question.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2016 9:07 am    Post subject:

Randle doesn't need to be Green, DLO doesn't need to be Curry, Ingram doesn't need to be Klay, Luke doesn't need to be Kerr. Let these guys be who they are, don't try to fit them into a pre-determined mold.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2016 4:04 pm    Post subject:

I wonder what Brian shaw has randle working on.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2016 6:08 am    Post subject:

Watching both guys randle was better than green at this point in career. Randle imo will be more Elton brand
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2016 6:23 am    Post subject:

I highly doubt that he'll resemble Draymond Green. Larry Nance is much more likely to turn into that kind of player.

I do believe, or at least hope, he turns into a '13-'14 lebron-lite.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2016 6:52 am    Post subject:

Sacreligious wrote:
I highly doubt that he'll resemble Draymond Green. Larry Nance is much more likely to turn into that kind of player.

I do believe, or at least hope, he turns into a '13-'14 lebron-lite.


If we're going to reside in the world of comparisons, I agree that Nance is far more likely to be that type of player.

Randle reminds me of prime David Lee with Handles, or Paul Milsap if he can develop a 3, or Elton Brand.

Judging on his comments about what makes Dray so good, it's great to here Julius has the right things in mind.... details on D, ball movement, tenacity, and making the right play.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2016 6:53 am    Post subject:

tox wrote:
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to me, Randle's offensive game actually looks more like a less athletic, poor man version of a young LeBron
If by poor, you mean six figures' debt of student loans, credit card bills, etc., then maybe I see it.

Perhaps homeless man is more accurate.


lol, it was the driving to hoops part and going coast to coast that reminds me of LeBron
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2016 7:59 am    Post subject:

Wow, this Greene player sounds like he is pretty good! I wonder why I have not seen him on an NBA roster before, does he play overseas? Also his game sounds similar to Draymond Green.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2016 8:20 am    Post subject:

People really have trouble letting these young guys just be who they are. I'll be glad when fans can finally refer to our core players without always saying "Can they become our version of <insert Warrior's roster name here>??"
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2016 8:20 am    Post subject:

I'd be happy if he developed into something similar to Kenyon Martin and Boris Diaw.
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