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DocK36
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| Goldenwest wrote: | | Weird move by the Lakers. this guy hadn't done anything in his first NBA stint. I hope the Lakers know something we don't about this player. Hope its just not for marketing purposes. |
Even if it is a marketing move, so what, the NBA is a business after all. I mean this is a one year rental for a deep bench guy, lighten up. With Yi, you're getting millions of extra eye balls in China to watch the post-Kobe Lakers, and if our young guys ball out, this exposure will help them out in the Asia market tremendously.
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| DocK36 wrote: | | Goldenwest wrote: | | Weird move by the Lakers. this guy hadn't done anything in his first NBA stint. I hope the Lakers know something we don't about this player. Hope its just not for marketing purposes. |
Even if it is a marketing move, so what, the NBA is a business after all. I mean this is a one year rental for a deep bench guy, lighten up. With Yi, you're getting millions of extra eye balls in China to watch the post-Kobe Lakers, and if our young guys ball out, this exposure will help them out in the Asia market tremendously. |
Getting Yi had nothing to do with marketing, also to me that comment sounds racist, we got a bunch of international players from Brazil/Spain/Sudan/Russia we have enough international attention, we got Yi cause we needed a stretch big man on the team... And Yi the closest to being the perfect modern bigman stretch 4 which was proven by his China coach and the Lakers brass.
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On Yi; my take is that the negotiation probably brooke down and hence why Black, not Mitch, came out top say there was nothing to talk about. This in case the Lakers do finalize something, Mitch would have his turn at the podium.
But lets just say the Lakers and Yi's management team come to an agreement (which they haven't). Yi would be depth, though consider he would be a 27 year old veteran thats 7' tall with a 7.4" reach
1- you could trash the NBA numbers from the past because he's been gone for a while and in the olympics looked stronger than in the past.
2- at the olympics his best numbers were from 3 point land were he shot 46.7%; obviously on catch and pops. His FG is low @ 43.9% and had 74.2% form the FT line.
3- Yi played against USA, France, Venezuela, Australia & Serbia. Most of those tough wins for the USA probably because most have NBA talent now. He averaged 20.4 points against those teams (25, 19, 18, 20 & 20)
So IF the Lakers did land Yi they get a 7" 27 YO veteran that can hit the 3 ball. Off the bench maybe a specialist. There is nothing wrong with that as he would be a place holder for the 2017-18 FA market anyway.
All in all, the Lakers have not closed any negotiation with Yi, so this is probably not happening and if it did, I sure Luke could use his 3 pt touch on and off. I'll not even look at PR crap because that's just added value on another front.
I'd much prefer to focus on the defensive side, so I'm not a Yi fan, but I get how he could help on the O.
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| DocK36 wrote: | | Goldenwest wrote: | | Weird move by the Lakers. this guy hadn't done anything in his first NBA stint. I hope the Lakers know something we don't about this player. Hope its just not for marketing purposes. |
Even if it is a marketing move, so what, the NBA is a business after all. I mean this is a one year rental for a deep bench guy, lighten up. With Yi, you're getting millions of extra eye balls in China to watch the post-Kobe Lakers, and if our young guys ball out, this exposure will help them out in the Asia market tremendously. |
We all get more excited about what a player might be able to become rather than what a player already is. At 28 with years of playing in the CBA, Yi is already well ahead of Randle and LNJ in terms of offensive skill. He doesn't need to be coaxed or coached into taking perimeter shots. Like Randle he can put the ball on the floor and take it to the rim and like Nance has the length and athleticism to finish above it.
It's understandable we all want our young players to get enough burn to develop. I felt the same way last year with Lou, Marcelo and Roy getting minutes I wanted to go to DLo and TB.
I'm excited to see how 5 years of physical and, hopefully, mental maturity has improved Yi's game and confidence.
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| Inspector Gadget wrote: | | DocK36 wrote: | | Goldenwest wrote: | | Weird move by the Lakers. this guy hadn't done anything in his first NBA stint. I hope the Lakers know something we don't about this player. Hope its just not for marketing purposes. |
Even if it is a marketing move, so what, the NBA is a business after all. I mean this is a one year rental for a deep bench guy, lighten up. With Yi, you're getting millions of extra eye balls in China to watch the post-Kobe Lakers, and if our young guys ball out, this exposure will help them out in the Asia market tremendously. |
Getting Yi had nothing to do with marketing, also to me that comment sounds racist, we got a bunch of international players from Brazil/Spain/Sudan/Russia we have enough international attention, we got Yi cause we needed a stretch big man on the team... And Yi the closest to being the perfect modern bigman stretch 4 which was proven by his China coach and the Lakers brass. |
IG, please reconsider what word is applicable here. The term racist basically means expressing the thought that one race is superior to another, and by default, inferior to another race.
The poster does not indicate that the move to get Yi was because his race was superior to others, or inferior to another race. The core of his assertion, which to me has merit, is that there is just as much a marketing angle to the move, as there is the need to add quality when the opportunity presents itself. |
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| Inspector Gadget wrote: | | DocK36 wrote: | | Goldenwest wrote: | | Weird move by the Lakers. this guy hadn't done anything in his first NBA stint. I hope the Lakers know something we don't about this player. Hope its just not for marketing purposes. |
Even if it is a marketing move, so what, the NBA is a business after all. I mean this is a one year rental for a deep bench guy, lighten up. With Yi, you're getting millions of extra eye balls in China to watch the post-Kobe Lakers, and if our young guys ball out, this exposure will help them out in the Asia market tremendously. |
Getting Yi had nothing to do with marketing, also to me that comment sounds racist, we got a bunch of international players from Brazil/Spain/Sudan/Russia we have enough international attention, we got Yi cause we needed a stretch big man on the team... And Yi the closest to being the perfect modern bigman stretch 4 which was proven by his China coach and the Lakers brass. |
It's only a matter of time. |
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| Lowest Merion wrote: | | pjiddy wrote: | | lakerhaterhater wrote: | | pjiddy wrote: | | What did all the discontented people wanted to see that cap space spent on? |
How about..let's see..a guard who can play defence. |
Such as???
This seems to be as specific as the whinging gets around here. "How about a wing?!" Name a player, please. At least the one guy who thought Whiteside could've been had for 25 million a year named an actual alternative usage of cap space. |
I'd rather the Lakers signed no one than signing Yi. |
That makes no sense.
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | Lowest Merion wrote: | | pjiddy wrote: | | lakerhaterhater wrote: | | pjiddy wrote: | | What did all the discontented people wanted to see that cap space spent on? |
How about..let's see..a guard who can play defence. |
Such as???
This seems to be as specific as the whinging gets around here. "How about a wing?!" Name a player, please. At least the one guy who thought Whiteside could've been had for 25 million a year named an actual alternative usage of cap space. |
I'd rather the Lakers signed no one than signing Yi. |
That makes no sense. |
Ditto. And the Lakers have NOT signed Yi. But if they do, I'll trust
Luke with it.
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| LakerDYnasty72 wrote: | | Inspector Gadget wrote: | | DocK36 wrote: | | Goldenwest wrote: | | Weird move by the Lakers. this guy hadn't done anything in his first NBA stint. I hope the Lakers know something we don't about this player. Hope its just not for marketing purposes. |
Even if it is a marketing move, so what, the NBA is a business after all. I mean this is a one year rental for a deep bench guy, lighten up. With Yi, you're getting millions of extra eye balls in China to watch the post-Kobe Lakers, and if our young guys ball out, this exposure will help them out in the Asia market tremendously. |
Getting Yi had nothing to do with marketing, also to me that comment sounds racist, we got a bunch of international players from Brazil/Spain/Sudan/Russia we have enough international attention, we got Yi cause we needed a stretch big man on the team... And Yi the closest to being the perfect modern bigman stretch 4 which was proven by his China coach and the Lakers brass. |
IG, please reconsider what word is applicable here. The term racist basically means expressing the thought that one race is superior to another, and by default, inferior to another race.
The poster does not indicate that the move to get Yi was because his race was superior to others, or inferior to another race. The core of his assertion, which to me has merit, is that there is just as much a marketing angle to the move, as there is the need to add quality when the opportunity presents itself. |
Thanks, I can't read minds when I read posts that's why I'm curious to see what the thought process is. |
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| DocK36 wrote: | | Goldenwest wrote: | | Weird move by the Lakers. this guy hadn't done anything in his first NBA stint. I hope the Lakers know something we don't about this player. Hope its just not for marketing purposes. |
Even if it is a marketing move, so what, the NBA is a business after all. I mean this is a one year rental for a deep bench guy, lighten up. With Yi, you're getting millions of extra eye balls in China to watch the post-Kobe Lakers, and if our young guys ball out, this exposure will help them out in the Asia market tremendously. |
Don't tell me to lighten up, why don't you lighten up 'Dock'
8 million for a player that bombed his last time in the NBA? I'm ok with Marketing moves, the lakers do have to make money, but the team has stunk for three straight years. Viewership is dwindling; the Clippers are catching up, tired of these gambling, risky moves; Lakers have no more room left for them. i think the 8 mill could have been better spent on a better player. Yi might be ok, but if he were really that improved he would've signed with a better team. He's probably good for 10 minutes/game maybe 6 ppg player at best. Again, i hope i'm wrong and the Lakers did see something in this guy that the others teams missed.
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| Dominator wrote: | | Inspector Gadget wrote: | | DocK36 wrote: | | Goldenwest wrote: | | Weird move by the Lakers. this guy hadn't done anything in his first NBA stint. I hope the Lakers know something we don't about this player. Hope its just not for marketing purposes. |
Even if it is a marketing move, so what, the NBA is a business after all. I mean this is a one year rental for a deep bench guy, lighten up. With Yi, you're getting millions of extra eye balls in China to watch the post-Kobe Lakers, and if our young guys ball out, this exposure will help them out in the Asia market tremendously. |
Getting Yi had nothing to do with marketing, also to me that comment sounds racist, we got a bunch of international players from Brazil/Spain/Sudan/Russia we have enough international attention, we got Yi cause we needed a stretch big man on the team... And Yi the closest to being the perfect modern bigman stretch 4 which was proven by his China coach and the Lakers brass. |
It's only a matter of time. |
No, i'm racist, he/she's right seriously wth?? Like the other posters have said, i'm sure, marketing played a part. We marketed Kobe's 'Farewell Tour' last year..remember? |
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A lot of crying over a bench player. A 1 year player to boot. Im pulling for the guy.
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| Goldenwest wrote: | | DocK36 wrote: | | Goldenwest wrote: | | Weird move by the Lakers. this guy hadn't done anything in his first NBA stint. I hope the Lakers know something we don't about this player. Hope its just not for marketing purposes. |
Even if it is a marketing move, so what, the NBA is a business after all. I mean this is a one year rental for a deep bench guy, lighten up. With Yi, you're getting millions of extra eye balls in China to watch the post-Kobe Lakers, and if our young guys ball out, this exposure will help them out in the Asia market tremendously. |
Don't tell me to lighten up, why don't you lighten up 'Dock'
8 million for a player that bombed his last time in the NBA? I'm ok with Marketing moves, the lakers do have to make money, but the team has stunk for three straight years. Viewership is dwindling; the Clippers are catching up, tired of these gambling, risky moves; Lakers have no more room left for them. i think the 8 mill could have been better spent on a better player. Yi might be ok, but if he were really that improved he would've signed with a better team. He's probably good for 10 minutes/game maybe 6 ppg player at best. Again, i hope i'm wrong and the Lakers did see something in this guy that the others teams missed. |
Why is Yi a risky move? He has potential, and the move is a high risk reward, I don't understand why people think marketing is the reason for this move, we can always sign oversea players to get viewings up, but Yi actually brings talent and skill to the team. |
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| i don't get the folks who bash this signing. it's a 1 year deal with a chance of a decent return if he pans out. It's not like we're going anywhere this year anyway. I mean just take a look at the remaining free agents.. theres just no one worth signing. Might as well take a gamble at Yi |
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| PassTheBooze wrote: | | i don't get the folks who bash this signing. it's a 1 year deal with a chance of a decent return if he pans out. It's not like we're going anywhere this year anyway. I mean just take a look at the remaining free agents.. theres just no one worth signing. Might as well take a gamble at Yi |
Yi is actually a very good gamble, he's a solid weak side shot blocker and has solid athleticism, Yi has a good shot of panning out next year. |
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They gave Tarik 13 mil and I didn't hear a peep about it. They give Yi ”reportedly" 8 mil and everyone freaks out.
Both are 1 year place holders for cap space next summer. Imho Yi is better than Tarik anyway so if he takes his minutes so be it. |
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| lakerjoshua wrote: | They gave Tarik 13 mil and I didn't hear a peep about it. They give Yi ”reportedly" 8 mil and everyone freaks out.
Both are 1 year place holders for cap space next summer. Imho Yi is better than Tarik anyway so if he takes his minutes so be it. |
TB and Yi are role players that can help us win, and they might have value as expiring contracts during the season, if they perform at a high level the Lakers will resign them instead of letting them walk to another team. |
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| Can't believe people have so much discussion on a player who I don't think will play more than 10 minutes a game. |
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| Vancouver Fan wrote: | | A lot of crying over a bench player. A 1 year player to boot. Im pulling for the guy. |
such strong emotion to a 3rd string PF signing... on a 1 yr deal.
Here's our 3rd String new contract:
PG - Jose Calderon $7.7mil, 1 yr contract
C - Tarik Black $6.4mil/yr with team option for 2nd
PF - Yi Jian Lian $8mil 1 yr contract (reported, if it's 8mil yuan = vet min)
None of them are outrageous
let's cheer for our 3rd stringer to be a 'steal' instead!!! |
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| lakersfan8 wrote: | | Can't believe people have so much discussion on a player who I don't think will play more than 10 minutes a game. |
We should have discussions, cause Yi has just as big of a presence in the international game as Dirk/Pau and others have.
We should be excited cause there is a good chance that Yi is gonna help us. |
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| lakersfan8 wrote: | | Can't believe people have so much discussion on a player who I don't think will play more than 10 minutes a game. |
Some people just love to piss & moan about everything.
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| Inspector Gadget wrote: | | lakersfan8 wrote: | | Can't believe people have so much discussion on a player who I don't think will play more than 10 minutes a game. |
We should have discussions, cause Yi has just as big of a presence in the international game as Dirk/Pau and others have.
We should be excited cause there is a good chance that Yi is gonna help us. |
if he can help keep those Chinese tv sets on Laker games, he's worth every penny. Maybe he could pick a fight with Nick Young, get them both booted off the team, that would be pretty valuable too... I'd say that would be worth every lost penny in salary for the both of them... |
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Yi's a 2nd/3rd string player on a projected 20-something win team.
Chances are, he won't move the needle much in either direction.
I'm pretty apathetic about the signing. But I'm not gonna be negative unless he gives me a reason to be this season.
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Another thing to consider is that Yi is insurance in case Moz goes down for an extended period. The only other 7-footer on the roster is Ivica. While I love Zubac he's not ready to get regular minutes.
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| Goldenwest wrote: | | DocK36 wrote: | | Goldenwest wrote: | | Weird move by the Lakers. this guy hadn't done anything in his first NBA stint. I hope the Lakers know something we don't about this player. Hope its just not for marketing purposes. |
Even if it is a marketing move, so what, the NBA is a business after all. I mean this is a one year rental for a deep bench guy, lighten up. With Yi, you're getting millions of extra eye balls in China to watch the post-Kobe Lakers, and if our young guys ball out, this exposure will help them out in the Asia market tremendously. |
Don't tell me to lighten up, why don't you lighten up 'Dock'
8 million for a player that bombed his last time in the NBA? I'm ok with Marketing moves, the lakers do have to make money, but the team has stunk for three straight years. Viewership is dwindling; the Clippers are catching up, tired of these gambling, risky moves; Lakers have no more room left for them. i think the 8 mill could have been better spent on a better player. Yi might be ok, but if he were really that improved he would've signed with a better team. He's probably good for 10 minutes/game maybe 6 ppg player at best. Again, i hope i'm wrong and the Lakers did see something in this guy that the others teams missed. |
Last I heard the deal is incentive laden, it's basically a vet minimum contract, if the Lakers end up having to pay Yi the whole 8 million, it basically mean the guy hit all the incentives, which means he played real well.
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