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Reflexx Franchise Player
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Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2016 7:11 pm Post subject: |
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KBH wrote: | Reflexx wrote: | I'm pretty sure none of them are scoring 50 in a game this season. I don't think any will get 40. |
D'Angelo scored 39 last season. 40 is possible this season. |
I didn't say it wasn't possible. I just said I didn't think it would happen. |
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Vin Star Player
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Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2016 7:56 pm Post subject: |
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KindCrippler2000 wrote: | zePokar wrote: | KindCrippler2000 wrote: | zePokar wrote: | KindCrippler2000 wrote: | Reflexx wrote: | I'm pretty sure none of them are scoring 50 in a game this season. I don't think any will get 40. |
Makes no sense. If Russell hit 39 points as a 19 year old, what is he going to do when he's 20-22 years of age? |
80,85 points. |
fight me in real life
don't be scared now. show your face. |
Lol what ? I didn't get that joke. |
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-ball-dont-lie/byron-scott-appears-to-threaten-fan-on-instagram--blames-hacker-030820717.html |
Haha, okay :) |
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lakersboy Star Player
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Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2016 10:37 am Post subject: |
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Reflexx wrote: | I'm pretty sure none of them are scoring 50 in a game this season. I don't think any will get 40. | That doesn't make sense Ramona. D'lo got 39 in Scott's offense and now he looks like a better player /shooter. Why in the world can he not reach 40 now? |
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lakersboy Star Player
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Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2016 10:43 am Post subject: |
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diando wrote: | Ingram will eventually. But none of these guys are Kobe. | How did we get from A to Q? Nobody accused anyone on the team of being Kobe. Young Brandon Jennings got to 50 but nobody had to make apologies saying "but he's not a Hall of Famer." |
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lakersboy Star Player
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Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2016 10:55 am Post subject: |
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governator wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: | JC's career high scoring is what 30?
DLO at age 19-20 scored 39. I think he gets to the line more and will be a better 3 point shooter. I think we see a 40 point game from DLO this year. JC I see a few 30 point plus games. |
this is the convo we need to have, who's gonna be good. It's prob DLo who has the best chance (not Yi). Too many doom and gloom replies in LG | Agreed. Everyone tries to distance themselves from over enthusiasts so they "temper" their forecasts with things like "We don't know if D'lo has improved shooting. That was just summer league." Others are ridiculous enough to say something like "These guys are still young. Let's see if they can score 30 before we start thinking about them getting 50."
That stuff gets old for me. |
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lakersboy Star Player
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Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2016 11:02 am Post subject: |
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KindCrippler2000 wrote: | zePokar wrote: | KindCrippler2000 wrote: | Reflexx wrote: | I'm pretty sure none of them are scoring 50 in a game this season. I don't think any will get 40. |
Makes no sense. If Russell hit 39 points as a 19 year old, what is he going to do when he's 20-22 years of age? |
80,85 points. |
fight me in real life
don't be scared now. show your face. | You have to get a passport. He's in France. |
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lakersboy Star Player
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Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2016 11:30 am Post subject: |
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Reflexx wrote: | KindCrippler2000 wrote: | Reflexx wrote: | I'm pretty sure none of them are scoring 50 in a game this season. I don't think any will get 40. |
Makes no sense. If Russell hit 39 points as a 19 year old, what is he going to do when he's 20-22 years of age? |
Makes no sense?
He scored 39 once.
Is it possible that he'll score 40 this season? Sure. I just don't think it's likely. I hope he does though. | Your thinking defies logic. It doesn't allow for a 19 year old turning 20 and maturing physically and through practice, as well as expanding his game and knowledge. He already clearly shot far better in the same summer league he did poorly in last year. |
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ringfinger Retired Number
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Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2016 12:45 pm Post subject: |
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DLO will be the first.
Ingram will do it the most.
Randle will never score 50. |
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Reflexx Franchise Player
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Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2016 2:30 pm Post subject: |
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lakersboy wrote: | Reflexx wrote: | I'm pretty sure none of them are scoring 50 in a game this season. I don't think any will get 40. | That doesn't make sense Ramona. D'lo got 39 in Scott's offense and now he looks like a better player /shooter. Why in the world can he not reach 40 now? |
Ramona? Having fantasies where you need to include her randomly in posts?
And it seems like several people in this thread confuse saying someone can do something versus someone thinking they will do something. |
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Inspector Gadget Retired Number
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Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2016 4:08 pm Post subject: |
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ringfinger wrote: | DLO will be the first.
Ingram will do it the most.
Randle will never score 50. |
Lou had 44 against Oklohoma, he could potentially do it. |
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SuperboyReformed Star Player
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Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2016 4:53 pm Post subject: |
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there is absolutely nobody on the squad this year that can be expected to score 50. in any year, there are just a handful that score 50, and they are typically the elites amongst the all stars. last year the only ones were kobe (#1!), Davis, COusins, Curry, Butler, and Kemba Walker. Walker is the only surprise there. the others are all elites. kobe is like goat level, curry was mvp, davis will soon be mvp, cousins may be mvp, butler is not mvp but he's up there. walker just had the game of his life.
so again, other than walker, nobody on the lakers has demonstrated the ability to play like those listed there yet. |
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Inspector Gadget Retired Number
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Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2016 5:01 pm Post subject: |
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SuperboyReformed wrote: | there is absolutely nobody on the squad this year that can be expected to score 50. in any year, there are just a handful that score 50, and they are typically the elites amongst the all stars. last year the only ones were kobe (#1!), Davis, COusins, Curry, Butler, and Kemba Walker. Walker is the only surprise there. the others are all elites. kobe is like goat level, curry was mvp, davis will soon be mvp, cousins may be mvp, butler is not mvp but he's up there. walker just had the game of his life.
so again, other than walker, nobody on the lakers has demonstrated the ability to play like those listed there yet. |
I would not be shocked to see Russell do it, can guy shoot the ball and was putting up good numbers last year most recently his 39 point game.
If Russell is expected to be a mini Harden, then we should expect him to accomplish that feat real soon. |
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ringfinger Retired Number
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Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2016 5:38 pm Post subject: |
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Inspector Gadget wrote: | ringfinger wrote: | DLO will be the first.
Ingram will do it the most.
Randle will never score 50. |
Lou had 44 against Oklohoma, he could potentially do it. |
That was his career high in his 11th season and he started. DLO almost did that in his 30th game as a 19 year old.
And Lou won't start this season either.
I'm going with DLO. |
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Inspector Gadget Retired Number
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Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2016 5:40 pm Post subject: |
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ringfinger wrote: | Inspector Gadget wrote: | ringfinger wrote: | DLO will be the first.
Ingram will do it the most.
Randle will never score 50. |
Lou had 44 against Oklohoma, he could potentially do it. |
That was his career high in his 11th season and he started. DLO almost did that in his 30th game as a 19 year old.
And Lou won't start this season either.
I'm going with DLO. |
Read my above post, I feel the same way.
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kikanga Retired Number
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Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2016 5:41 pm Post subject: |
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Don't know why this topic fascinates people.
Seems like an arbitrary goal to score 50 points in a given game on a team that needs to take a drastic leap forward as a whole.
But whatever. Lets take a look at the 50 PT games from last season.
http://tinyurl.com/zrrctwq
11 games occurred last year when a player scored 50 points or more.
Minimum FGAs to get there was 27.
I'm gonna focus on the guards, since nobody seriously named a non-guard they think will drop 50+ next season for the Lakers.
Kobe and Jimmy Butler were outliers for guards. Since Kobe shot 50 times.
And Jimmy Butler had 25 FTAs ( not a typo) in his 50+ point game last season.
The guards who weren't outliers averaged:
1) 7.75 or ≈ 8 made 3 pointers
2) 61% from the field.
3) 8.85 ≈ 9 made FTs
Immediately I think, in a vacuum where winning wasn't the priority, Lou could (bleep) around and have a game with 25 FTAs like Butler.
Nobody is shooting 50 times like Kobe.
So if those instances don't happen for any player (they probably wont) someone has to approximate 1-3 in my list.
I have to see if we have any injuries this year. Because that's the only logical way I can see someone fulfilling the requirements for a 50+ game in Luke's system (since wins are probably the priority for Luke over individual stats). If DLO or Clarkson go down. The one that's healthy has a shot. Not saying it's likely, just saying they have a shot.
Another factor that has to be taken into account is the talent level of our team as a whole. We have to be in a competitive game all 4 quarters for someone to reach 50 points. If the game is a blowout (us losing big to a playoff team or us blowing out a team like Brooklyn) that isn't the ideal circumstance to give a player on our roster enough minutes to hit 50 pts.
The average MPG for the guard non-outliers was 37. That's more than I've seen anybody give for MPG for any player on our roster this upcoming year. _________________ "Every hurt is a lesson, and every lesson makes you better”
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Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2016 6:24 pm Post subject: |
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Westbrook _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023. |
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Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2016 8:01 pm Post subject: |
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venturalakersfan wrote: | Westbrook |
You didn't read the OP. It is asking within the domain of the young Laker core. |
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krisobe Star Player
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Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2016 8:37 pm Post subject: |
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D-LO.
Most Improved Player of the Year 2017.
20/7/4/1 |
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PICKnPOP Star Player
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Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2016 9:04 pm Post subject: |
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Dlo, absolutely.
I don't think Ingram is that type of scorer though. Definately dominant but not on Russell's level ( as a scorer). His value is his versatility, all around game and impact on the floor. |
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krisobe wrote: | D-LO.
Most Improved Player of the Year 2017.
20/7/4/1 |
Yep, I actually think he can average more... |
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Cochese Starting Rotation
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Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2016 10:01 pm Post subject: |
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Corey freakin Brewer had a 51 point game once, strange things can happen.
I think it will be Russell. He'll have the green light and if he catches fire one game he can put up 50. |
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Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2016 10:05 pm Post subject: |
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Cochese wrote: | Corey freakin Brewer had a 51 point game once, strange things can happen.
I think it will be Russell. He'll have the green light and if he catches fire one game he can put up 50. |
Tony Delk also scored 50 points once. 53 points to be precise. |
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Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2016 10:26 pm Post subject: |
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ringfinger wrote: | Inspector Gadget wrote: | ringfinger wrote: | DLO will be the first.
Ingram will do it the most.
Randle will never score 50. |
Lou had 44 against Oklohoma, he could potentially do it. |
That was his career high in his 11th season and he started. DLO almost did that in his 30th game as a 19 year old.
And Lou won't start this season either.
I'm going with DLO. |
no way, disagree. DLo showed a nice touch for one game, and did ok for a few others. But Lou is a potent scorer and has done it for several seasons, and on offense is really good. Dlo may surpass it one day, but right now he is not close...or at least his performances don't indicate it yet. |
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Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2016 5:19 am Post subject: |
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SuperboyReformed wrote: | ringfinger wrote: | Inspector Gadget wrote: | ringfinger wrote: | DLO will be the first.
Ingram will do it the most.
Randle will never score 50. |
Lou had 44 against Oklohoma, he could potentially do it. |
That was his career high in his 11th season and he started. DLO almost did that in his 30th game as a 19 year old.
And Lou won't start this season either.
I'm going with DLO. |
no way, disagree. DLo showed a nice touch for one game, and did ok for a few others. But Lou is a potent scorer and has done it for several seasons, and on offense is really good. Dlo may surpass it one day, but right now he is not close...or at least his performances don't indicate it yet. |
I doubt Luke, unlike Byron, will get 40 minutes in a game and 30+ shots to even sniff 50 points again. Remember, that was when Byron thought it would be a good idea to have Lou as a starting PG. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2016 5:40 am Post subject: |
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lakersboy wrote: | diando wrote: | Ingram will eventually. But none of these guys are Kobe. | How did we get from A to Q? Nobody accused anyone on the team of being Kobe. Young Brandon Jennings got to 50 but nobody had to make apologies saying "but he's not a Hall of Famer." |
Just don't think anyone would take enough shots on a given night to get there. _________________
"Through the legs to the left, through the legs to the right, we don't run them Laker plays, we just Kobe fadeaway..."
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