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PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2016 3:23 am    Post subject: Laker Film Room: How Yi Jianlian Fits In w/the Lakers

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2016 3:40 am    Post subject:

I can see Luke using him as a center. His ability to defend the PnR and stretch the floor as at center will be huge. Luckily, he will be next to Randle and nance who are pretty good defensive rebounders. Hopefully they improve their help defense. I think having a smaller roll in the NBA will help highlight some of his strengths and hide some of his weaknesses. He won't be the focal point of the offense so he can look for good shots, no ball hogging, playing against backup bigs dhould help as well.

I'm excited to have him.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2016 3:42 am    Post subject:

Thanks for making breakfast.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2016 4:04 am    Post subject:

one more banana for that T.I at the beginning tho
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2016 4:06 am    Post subject:

anpherknee wrote:
one more banana for that T.I at the beginning tho

Same thing I said!
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2016 4:12 am    Post subject:

Man, his jumper looks mad slow after you mention it
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2016 5:06 am    Post subject:

figured out the mystery.

That in-bounds pick-n-pop for a 3pt play got him signed. Everything else is just over-hype.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2016 5:39 am    Post subject:

Thanks for the video


I didnt know anything about the guy,but he looks extremely limited.

Zubac looks more promising for a rookie kid at this stage
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2016 6:49 am    Post subject:

Nice vid. Looking forward to his pick and roll defense. Only thing is that there's one play that's supposed to be a hedge on Kyrie but it's actually not him, he's in the corner guarding Melo and ends up fouling him on that play. Still good work and very informative.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2016 7:00 am    Post subject:

Laker_Town wrote:
Thanks for the video


I didnt know anything about the guy,but he looks extremely limited.

Zubac looks more promising for a rookie kid at this stage


That's the thing - Yi isn't guaranteed rotation time. As of right now, the money he is guaranteed (250k) is a tier above what the typical training camp invite receives (50-100k). His contract is incentivized and structured in such a way that he will have to demonstrate his utility on the court. The better of a showing he has, the more he will make throughout the course of the season. If he sees playing time, it will be because he's beat out the other bigs for it. This is why training camp and preseason will determine whether they waive him in the coming months or not. I'm rooting for him to succeed obviously. As a stretch five, he brings a fairly unique skillset and will make defenses shift more.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2016 7:04 am    Post subject:

I have a hard time seeing Yi walk away from CBA MVP and CBA $ for a glorified training camp invite.

I do think he will see some playing time as none of our centers can play stretch positions (Moz, Zub, Black) and Nance/Randle are both 6'8/6'9 at best.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2016 7:10 am    Post subject:

manlisten wrote:
Nice vid. Looking forward to his pick and roll defense. Only thing is that there's one play that's supposed to be a hedge on Kyrie but it's actually not him, he's in the corner guarding Melo and ends up fouling him on that play. Still good work and very informative.


Welp.

Good catch. My bad.
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yinoma2001 wrote:
I have a hard time seeing Yi walk away from CBA MVP and CBA $ for a glorified training camp invite.

I do think he will see some playing time as none of our centers can play stretch positions (Moz, Zub, Black) and Nance/Randle are both 6'8/6'9 at best.


Well, he wouldn't have signed if some of the money wasn't guaranteed. Yi still walks away with 250k if they aren't happy with his showing in training camp. He'd be able to find another lucrative contract overseas.

It is summed up nicely here:

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He’ll earn somewhere between $250,000 and $8 million next season, $1,139,123 just for remaining on the roster through Jan. 10.

Yi can trigger $2,286,959 bonuses for hitting three benchmarks based on games played, according to Basketball Insiders. Here’s the running total for those incentives:

20-39 games played: $2,286,959
40-58 games played: $4,573,918
59+ games played:$6,860,877


From my understanding, he could end up making more than he would have in China if he demonstrates exceptional utility on the court. That's a very big if however.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2016 7:22 am    Post subject:

It seems like he's going to have a very defined role if he does make the team. I don't expect he'll get a lot of playing time, IMO.
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lukewaltonsdad wrote:
It seems like he's going to have a very defined role if he does make the team. I don't expect he'll get a lot of playing time, IMO.


pick and pop but I'm not sure if he is fast enough to cover small ball big
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2016 7:35 am    Post subject:

Laker_Town wrote:
Thanks for the video


I didnt know anything about the guy,but he looks extremely limited.

Zubac looks more promising for a rookie kid at this stage


Yi is over 30 so in terms of "future" it's obvious.

As for next season only, don't think there's a single area zubac is better at right now.

but let's all temper this a bit. If zubac and Yi beat each other up in practice enough for zubac to develop and gain some agility/speed then it's worth it. If either of them get on the court and hit shots in their limited game time - they'll be more popular than sacre who only really had cheerleading highlights. lol.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2016 7:37 am    Post subject:

Yi is a perfect 1 year cap holder. Keeps the Chinese fan base involved with the Lakers and he offers a stretch center role for the team. I don't see why he wouldn't stick on the team. It's a low risk, moderate reward move for the Lakers.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2016 7:39 am    Post subject:

At the very least, he's better than Sacre...
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2016 7:39 am    Post subject:

governator wrote:
lukewaltonsdad wrote:
It seems like he's going to have a very defined role if he does make the team. I don't expect he'll get a lot of playing time, IMO.


pick and pop but I'm not sure if he is fast enough to cover small ball big


He's very mobile, I'm not concerned about that. I'm concerned about his ability to rebound and protect the rim. He's an okay shooter and does well on both ends in the pick & roll, but I don't think he's good enough at any of them to offset that.

I can't think of much of a reason to play him at the 5 instead of Nance.
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GoldenThroat wrote:
governator wrote:
lukewaltonsdad wrote:
It seems like he's going to have a very defined role if he does make the team. I don't expect he'll get a lot of playing time, IMO.


pick and pop but I'm not sure if he is fast enough to cover small ball big


He's very mobile, I'm not concerned about that. I'm concerned about his ability to rebound and protect the rim. He's an okay shooter and does well on both ends in the pick & roll, but I don't think he's good enough at any of them to offset that.

I can't think of much of a reason to play him at the 5 instead of Nance.


back up 4, Mozgov-Yi? Black-Yi? Randle at 5 with Yi? who would you pair him up with?
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GoldenThroat wrote:
governator wrote:
lukewaltonsdad wrote:
It seems like he's going to have a very defined role if he does make the team. I don't expect he'll get a lot of playing time, IMO.


pick and pop but I'm not sure if he is fast enough to cover small ball big


He's very mobile, I'm not concerned about that. I'm concerned about his ability to rebound and protect the rim. He's an okay shooter and does well on both ends in the pick & roll, but I don't think he's good enough at any of them to offset that.

I can't think of much of a reason to play him at the 5 instead of Nance.


Yeah, the groupings I see at the center spot:

Moz/Zub (bit slower, PnR liabilities)
Black (mobile, but no post up game, a bit undersized)
Yi/Nance (stretch bigs with Yi having size over Nance).
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2016 7:56 am    Post subject:

governator wrote:
GoldenThroat wrote:
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lukewaltonsdad wrote:
It seems like he's going to have a very defined role if he does make the team. I don't expect he'll get a lot of playing time, IMO.


pick and pop but I'm not sure if he is fast enough to cover small ball big


He's very mobile, I'm not concerned about that. I'm concerned about his ability to rebound and protect the rim. He's an okay shooter and does well on both ends in the pick & roll, but I don't think he's good enough at any of them to offset that.

I can't think of much of a reason to play him at the 5 instead of Nance.


back up 4, Mozgov-Yi? Black-Yi? Randle at 5 with Yi? who would you pair him up with?


The pairing I think could be the most likely and productive is one you didn't list.

Yi with Nance.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2016 7:57 am    Post subject:

Pick n pops, and it won't stop. It can't stop. Uh-huh, yeah.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2016 8:00 am    Post subject:

Four Decade Bandwagon wrote:
governator wrote:
GoldenThroat wrote:
governator wrote:
lukewaltonsdad wrote:
It seems like he's going to have a very defined role if he does make the team. I don't expect he'll get a lot of playing time, IMO.


pick and pop but I'm not sure if he is fast enough to cover small ball big


He's very mobile, I'm not concerned about that. I'm concerned about his ability to rebound and protect the rim. He's an okay shooter and does well on both ends in the pick & roll, but I don't think he's good enough at any of them to offset that.

I can't think of much of a reason to play him at the 5 instead of Nance.


back up 4, Mozgov-Yi? Black-Yi? Randle at 5 with Yi? who would you pair him up with?


The pairing I think could be the most likely and productive is one you didn't list.

Yi with Nance.


you think that pairing can board enough?
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