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PostPosted: Mon Sep 12, 2016 7:47 pm    Post subject:

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Is it even an issue that Klay is a 6' 7" Shooting Guard and Ingram is a 6' 9" Small Forward and their games in no way resemble each other?

How do you compare apples and orange's?


I was speaking in terms of star talent not comparison bro.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 12, 2016 9:41 pm    Post subject:

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Is it even an issue that Klay is a 6' 7" Shooting Guard and Ingram is a 6' 9" Small Forward and their games in no way resemble each other?

How do you compare apples and orange's?


I was speaking in terms of star talent not comparison bro.


So you were trying to make an even worse comparison?

And we are not bro's nor am I a child. You can address me by my name.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 13, 2016 8:38 am    Post subject:

Come on guys, at least wait until he shows what he can do during an actual NBA season!!

If this comes after a couple of months, while I would be weary of it, I could at least understand it.

At this point, we might as well compare him to Jordan and Hakeem, I mean, WTF. It is all pointless until he starts playing and speaks to us on the court.
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Is it even an issue that Klay is a 6' 7" Shooting Guard and Ingram is a 6' 9" Small Forward and their games in no way resemble each other?

How do you compare apples and orange's?


I was speaking in terms of star talent not comparison bro.


So you were trying to make an even worse comparison?

And we are not bro's nor am I a child. You can address me by my name.


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Come on guys, at least wait until he shows what he can do during an actual NBA season!!

If this comes after a couple of months, while I would be weary of it, I could at least understand it.

At this point, we might as well compare him to Jordan and Hakeem, I mean, what the heck. It is all pointless until he starts playing and speaks to us on the court.


It's fun to talk about possibilities though.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 13, 2016 8:53 am    Post subject:

lakerjoshua wrote:
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lakerjoshua wrote:
Is it even an issue that Klay is a 6' 7" Shooting Guard and Ingram is a 6' 9" Small Forward and their games in no way resemble each other?

How do you compare apples and orange's?


I was speaking in terms of star talent not comparison bro.


So you were trying to make an even worse comparison?

And we are not bro's nor am I a child. You can address me by my name.


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lakerjoshua wrote:
Inspector Gadget wrote:
lakerjoshua wrote:
Is it even an issue that Klay is a 6' 7" Shooting Guard and Ingram is a 6' 9" Small Forward and their games in no way resemble each other?

How do you compare apples and orange's?


I was speaking in terms of star talent not comparison bro.


So you were trying to make an even worse comparison?

And we are not bro's nor am I a child. You can address me by my name.




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PostPosted: Tue Sep 13, 2016 8:55 am    Post subject:

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Come on guys, at least wait until he shows what he can do during an actual NBA season!!

If this comes after a couple of months, while I would be weary of it, I could at least understand it.

At this point, we might as well compare him to Jordan and Hakeem, I mean, what the heck. It is all pointless until he starts playing and speaks to us on the court.


It's fun to talk about possibilities though.


Yeah but it will be more fun when you actually have some evidence to support your conjecturing! It is too premature!! I mean really.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 13, 2016 9:13 am    Post subject:

lakerjoshua wrote:
Inspector Gadget wrote:
lakerjoshua wrote:
Is it even an issue that Klay is a 6' 7" Shooting Guard and Ingram is a 6' 9" Small Forward and their games in no way resemble each other?

How do you compare apples and orange's?


I was speaking in terms of star talent not comparison bro.


So you were trying to make an even worse comparison?

And we are not bro's nor am I a child. You can address me by my name.



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 13, 2016 11:51 am    Post subject:

honestly, I'd be ecstatic if Ingram can develop to where Klay Thompson is right now
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 13, 2016 11:57 am    Post subject:

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honestly, I'd be ecstatic if Ingram can develop to where Klay Thompson is right now


Scottie Pippen. That's who I want him to emulate his game after. Not Prince or Thompson



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honestly, I'd be ecstatic if Ingram can develop to where Klay Thompson is right now


Scottie Pippen. That's who I want him to emulate his game after. Not Prince or Thompson




I want him emulating Kahwai/AK47 hybrid. Defensive nightmare who is good for 20+ ppg.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 13, 2016 12:34 pm    Post subject:

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Hopefully Ingram obviously. Klay is an all star but is he a superstar like KD, Lebron, Westbrook? No. I think KAT is a shoe in to be a superstar. Dlo will likely be an all star, and potential superstar if he works hard. Ingram? I think he will easily be an all star in a few years and will be a much better player than Klay


So you see Ingram in the all star tier?


I meant to say Ingram is a definite all star , potential superstar. Klay is just an all star. In other words, I think Ingram has a higher upside


I think Klay could be a borderline superstar if he was the leader of his own team. He's got the skills and his motor is crazy.

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Reflexx wrote:
15 wrote:
Inspector Gadget wrote:
15 wrote:
Hopefully Ingram obviously. Klay is an all star but is he a superstar like KD, Lebron, Westbrook? No. I think KAT is a shoe in to be a superstar. Dlo will likely be an all star, and potential superstar if he works hard. Ingram? I think he will easily be an all star in a few years and will be a much better player than Klay


So you see Ingram in the all star tier?


I meant to say Ingram is a definite all star , potential superstar. Klay is just an all star. In other words, I think Ingram has a higher upside


I think Klay could be a borderline superstar if he was the leader of his own team. He's got the skills and his motor is crazy.


I'm a huge Klay fan, but I think he's properly cast in his role as a secondary (now tertiary by no fault of his own) option. Excels in catch/shoot situations and he's not exactly creating a lot of his own shots. A top 20 player for probably the next 3-4 years.
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yinoma2001 wrote:
Reflexx wrote:
15 wrote:
Inspector Gadget wrote:
15 wrote:
Hopefully Ingram obviously. Klay is an all star but is he a superstar like KD, Lebron, Westbrook? No. I think KAT is a shoe in to be a superstar. Dlo will likely be an all star, and potential superstar if he works hard. Ingram? I think he will easily be an all star in a few years and will be a much better player than Klay


So you see Ingram in the all star tier?


I meant to say Ingram is a definite all star , potential superstar. Klay is just an all star. In other words, I think Ingram has a higher upside


I think Klay could be a borderline superstar if he was the leader of his own team. He's got the skills and his motor is crazy.


I'm a huge Klay fan, but I think he's properly cast in his role as a secondary (now tertiary by no fault of his own) option. Excels in catch/shoot situations and he's not exactly creating a lot of his own shots. A top 20 player for probably the next 3-4 years.


You guys don't think Klay is the best SG now? (Kawhi, Harden, PG)?
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 13, 2016 1:03 pm    Post subject:

yinoma2001 wrote:
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honestly, I'd be ecstatic if Ingram can develop to where Klay Thompson is right now


Scottie Pippen. That's who I want him to emulate his game after. Not Prince or Thompson




I want him emulating Kahwai/AK47 hybrid. Defensive nightmare who is good for 20+ ppg.


That would be great. Defensively all those guys could get multiple stops in the same play.
Help defend to stop penetration, recover to their man for the close out, and then defend their man if he penetrates.
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governator wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
Reflexx wrote:
15 wrote:
Inspector Gadget wrote:
15 wrote:
Hopefully Ingram obviously. Klay is an all star but is he a superstar like KD, Lebron, Westbrook? No. I think KAT is a shoe in to be a superstar. Dlo will likely be an all star, and potential superstar if he works hard. Ingram? I think he will easily be an all star in a few years and will be a much better player than Klay


So you see Ingram in the all star tier?


I meant to say Ingram is a definite all star , potential superstar. Klay is just an all star. In other words, I think Ingram has a higher upside


I think Klay could be a borderline superstar if he was the leader of his own team. He's got the skills and his motor is crazy.


I'm a huge Klay fan, but I think he's properly cast in his role as a secondary (now tertiary by no fault of his own) option. Excels in catch/shoot situations and he's not exactly creating a lot of his own shots. A top 20 player for probably the next 3-4 years.


You guys don't think Klay is the best SG now? (Kawhi, Harden, PG)?


Doesn't mean he's a #1 option guy even if he's the #1 SG.
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You guys don't think Klay is the best SG now? (Kawhi, Harden, PG)?


Doesn't mean he's a #1 option guy even if he's the #1 SG.


And by the end of this upcoming season, I doubt many people will consider him the #1 SG. With Steph, Durant, and Draymond on that roster. He'll be 4th banana some games. Tough to put a smaller role guy like that above a person carrying their team to the playoffs like Harden. Heck Demar, Wade, and McCullom might be guys putting up better #s than Klay on playoff teams as well
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yinoma2001 wrote:
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You guys don't think Klay is the best SG now? (Kawhi, Harden, PG)?


Doesn't mean he's a #1 option guy even if he's the #1 SG.


And by the end of this upcoming season, I doubt many people will consider him the #1 SG. With Steph, Durant, and Draymond on that roster. He'll be 4th banana some games. Tough to put a smaller role guy like that above a person carrying their team to the playoffs like Harden. Heck Demar, Wade, and McCullom might be guys putting up better #s than Klay on playoff teams as well


And there's nothing he can do about it. He's under a dirt cheap deal. Maybe when his deal is up or close to it, in like 2019.
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yinoma2001 wrote:
kikanga wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
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You guys don't think Klay is the best SG now? (Kawhi, Harden, PG)?


Doesn't mean he's a #1 option guy even if he's the #1 SG.


And by the end of this upcoming season, I doubt many people will consider him the #1 SG. With Steph, Durant, and Draymond on that roster. He'll be 4th banana some games. Tough to put a smaller role guy like that above a person carrying their team to the playoffs like Harden. Heck Demar, Wade, and McCullom might be guys putting up better #s than Klay on playoff teams as well


And there's nothing he can do about it. He's under a dirt cheap deal. Maybe when his deal is up or close to it, in like 2019.


We could trade for him?
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yinoma2001 wrote:
kikanga wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
governator wrote:

You guys don't think Klay is the best SG now? (Kawhi, Harden, PG)?


Doesn't mean he's a #1 option guy even if he's the #1 SG.


And by the end of this upcoming season, I doubt many people will consider him the #1 SG. With Steph, Durant, and Draymond on that roster. He'll be 4th banana some games. Tough to put a smaller role guy like that above a person carrying their team to the playoffs like Harden. Heck Demar, Wade, and McCullom might be guys putting up better #s than Klay on playoff teams as well


And there's nothing he can do about it. He's under a dirt cheap deal. Maybe when his deal is up or close to it, in like 2019.


We could trade for him?


Sure. But Warriors would rightfully ask for a king's ransom for him.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2016 6:15 am    Post subject:

governator wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
Reflexx wrote:
15 wrote:
Inspector Gadget wrote:
15 wrote:
Hopefully Ingram obviously. Klay is an all star but is he a superstar like KD, Lebron, Westbrook? No. I think KAT is a shoe in to be a superstar. Dlo will likely be an all star, and potential superstar if he works hard. Ingram? I think he will easily be an all star in a few years and will be a much better player than Klay


So you see Ingram in the all star tier?


I meant to say Ingram is a definite all star , potential superstar. Klay is just an all star. In other words, I think Ingram has a higher upside


I think Klay could be a borderline superstar if he was the leader of his own team. He's got the skills and his motor is crazy.


I'm a huge Klay fan, but I think he's properly cast in his role as a secondary (now tertiary by no fault of his own) option. Excels in catch/shoot situations and he's not exactly creating a lot of his own shots. A top 20 player for probably the next 3-4 years.


You guys don't think Klay is the best SG now? (Kawhi, Harden, PG)?


I personally have Harden over him. People forget he had a historic season:

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Harden finished the season with averages of 29 points, 7.5 assists, 6.1 rebounds and 1.7 steals per game. The list of players who have averaged 29-7-6 and played 70 games or more in a season includes Harden, LeBron James, Michael Jordan and Oscar Robertson.


More on his ridiculous snub from the all NBA teams here. He's disrespected by the media the same way Russell is.

Kawhi and PG are listed as forwards, but I'd still take those two over Klay.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2016 6:16 am    Post subject:

Harden needs to get knocked down a peg for his no-defense attitude. He is a better shot creator than Klay.

Depends what type of team you have. On the Warriors Klay is most effective.

As a "lead guy" Harden probably is, though don't expect any defense from him.

I've never heard of Kahwai being listed as a "SG." He's a SF.
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KindCrippler2000 wrote:
governator wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
Reflexx wrote:
15 wrote:
Inspector Gadget wrote:
15 wrote:
Hopefully Ingram obviously. Klay is an all star but is he a superstar like KD, Lebron, Westbrook? No. I think KAT is a shoe in to be a superstar. Dlo will likely be an all star, and potential superstar if he works hard. Ingram? I think he will easily be an all star in a few years and will be a much better player than Klay


So you see Ingram in the all star tier?


I meant to say Ingram is a definite all star , potential superstar. Klay is just an all star. In other words, I think Ingram has a higher upside


I think Klay could be a borderline superstar if he was the leader of his own team. He's got the skills and his motor is crazy.


I'm a huge Klay fan, but I think he's properly cast in his role as a secondary (now tertiary by no fault of his own) option. Excels in catch/shoot situations and he's not exactly creating a lot of his own shots. A top 20 player for probably the next 3-4 years.


You guys don't think Klay is the best SG now? (Kawhi, Harden, PG)?


I personally have Harden over him. People forget he had a historic season:

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Harden finished the season with averages of 29 points, 7.5 assists, 6.1 rebounds and 1.7 steals per game. The list of players who have averaged 29-7-6 and played 70 games or more in a season includes Harden, LeBron James, Michael Jordan and Oscar Robertson.


More on his ridiculous snub from the all NBA teams here. He's disrespected by the media the same way Russell is.

Kawhi and PG are listed as forwards, but I'd still take those two over Klay.


Harden plays no defense, he doesn't even pretend to. That is why I take Klay over him any day.
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Butler, Klay, Russ and Harden are the class of the 'SG' position. DeRozan and McCollum are probably leaders in the next tier. How you rank the first group probably depends on how you value defense vs playmaking.
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