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| YSong wrote: | | 999 wrote: | | YSong wrote: | | Why do police in USA keep shooting black people? I don't understand this crazyness in USA. |
3. reasons
3. Some police are poorly trained and fail to use common sense and panic or they go into complete Rambo mode
2. there is still A lot of people in the USA that are racist
1. Those racist people have an easy access to weapons |
I grow up in Vietnam and even the crazy communist don't do this. How the USA do not use rubber bullets? At least you cannot kill a person. |
Hell yeah you could kill people with rubber bullets.
But the reason we don't use rubber bullets is that police aren't supposed to shoot unless they are attempting to completely neutralize a threat. That means kill most of the time.
That is supposed to be a last resort though, and poor training or having people who are not capable of handling extreme amounts of stress causes mistakes to happen. Mistakes that can be fatal.
There are hundreds of thousands of police interactions every day. Sometimes, things go bad.
Sometimes there are clear nefarious reasons with an intent to kill. But those times are extremely rare.
Most often it's due to some sort of human error. Though some of that human error is preventable because it's tied to certain mindsets of behavior that officers may engage in that's reckless and dangerous. |
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Wasn't he shot by a black woman? Is Rondo claiming she shot him because he's black?
...and the bomber DID get shot.
**nevermind. I got incident mixed up with another one. |
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I've lost count. Isn't that 3 in the last 2 weeks?
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| Quote: | Charlotte faces aftermath of protests ignited by fatal police shooting; 16 officers injured
Charlotte officials say they are preparing for more protests today following a night of violence over a police officer’s fatal shooting of an African-American man Tuesday in the University City area. The dead man was identified as Keith Lamont Scott, 43.
Sixteen police officers were injured overnight in a series of clashes, and there were reports early Wednesday of motorists on Interstate 85 being hurt and their vehicles damaged when protesters threw rocks, bottles and traffic cones off interstate overpasses onto traffic below.
The officers hurt suffered mostly minor injuries, though one was hit in the face with a rock, officials said.
At a Wednesday news conference, city leaders appealed for calm and promised a thorough investigation.
Charlotte Mayor Jennifer Roberts held a Wednesday press conference and urged the community to remain calm and wait for the facts in the case to be released before jumping to conclusions.
Her comments came just an hour before one activist group held its own news conference, urging the black community to start an economic boycott of white-owned businesses Charlotte.
Roberts says she has been in contact with the governor’s office, the White House and the NAACP, and said the city would work to get out information as quickly as possible, while also dispelling rumors being spread on social media.
Charlotte-Mecklenburg Police Chief Kerr Putney said the department is still viewing video from the scene, though the officer involved in the shooting himself was not wearing a camera. Putney said the officer who fired the shots was in plain clothes, wearing a vest and was accompanied by uniformed officers when they approached the victim.
It remains unclear whether Scott was pointing a gun at the officer when he was shot, Putney said. The officer was also African-American.
Putney added that officers have not found a book at the scene of the shooting, contrary to social media claims that Scott was holding a book.
“I can tell you we did not find a book that has been referenced to,” Putney said. “We did find a weapon. The weapon was there and witnesses have corroborated it, beyond just the officers.”
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Scott was not the person officers were searching for to arrest on the outstanding warrants, CMPD Chief Kerr Putney told reporters later.
Police said they recovered the firearm Scott was holding. But a woman who said she is Scott’s daughter claimed on a live-streamed video on Facebook that Scott was unarmed when he was shot. The video went viral, with more than 521,000 views by 9:30 p.m.
In the video, the woman said her father was sitting in his car reading a book and waiting for the school bus to drop off his son. She claimed that her father was Tasered and then shot four times, and that he was disabled.
“IT WAS A BOOK” one protester’s sign read.
Police declined to respond directly to the woman’s accusations.
A public records search shows that Scott was convicted in April 2004 of a misdemeanor assault with a deadly weapon charge in Mecklenburg County. Other charges stemming from that date were dismissed: felony assault with a deadly weapon with intent to kill, and misdemeanors assault on a child under 12, assault on a female and communicating threats.
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| DuncanIdaho wrote: | | Quote: | Charlotte faces aftermath of protests ignited by fatal police shooting; 16 officers injured
Charlotte officials say they are preparing for more protests today following a night of violence over a police officer’s fatal shooting of an African-American man Tuesday in the University City area. The dead man was identified as Keith Lamont Scott, 43.
Sixteen police officers were injured overnight in a series of clashes, and there were reports early Wednesday of motorists on Interstate 85 being hurt and their vehicles damaged when protesters threw rocks, bottles and traffic cones off interstate overpasses onto traffic below.
The officers hurt suffered mostly minor injuries, though one was hit in the face with a rock, officials said.
At a Wednesday news conference, city leaders appealed for calm and promised a thorough investigation.
Charlotte Mayor Jennifer Roberts held a Wednesday press conference and urged the community to remain calm and wait for the facts in the case to be released before jumping to conclusions.
Her comments came just an hour before one activist group held its own news conference, urging the black community to start an economic boycott of white-owned businesses Charlotte.
Roberts says she has been in contact with the governor’s office, the White House and the NAACP, and said the city would work to get out information as quickly as possible, while also dispelling rumors being spread on social media.
Charlotte-Mecklenburg Police Chief Kerr Putney said the department is still viewing video from the scene, though the officer involved in the shooting himself was not wearing a camera. Putney said the officer who fired the shots was in plain clothes, wearing a vest and was accompanied by uniformed officers when they approached the victim.
It remains unclear whether Scott was pointing a gun at the officer when he was shot, Putney said. The officer was also African-American.
Putney added that officers have not found a book at the scene of the shooting, contrary to social media claims that Scott was holding a book.
“I can tell you we did not find a book that has been referenced to,” Putney said. “We did find a weapon. The weapon was there and witnesses have corroborated it, beyond just the officers.”
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Scott was not the person officers were searching for to arrest on the outstanding warrants, CMPD Chief Kerr Putney told reporters later.
Police said they recovered the firearm Scott was holding. But a woman who said she is Scott’s daughter claimed on a live-streamed video on Facebook that Scott was unarmed when he was shot. The video went viral, with more than 521,000 views by 9:30 p.m.
In the video, the woman said her father was sitting in his car reading a book and waiting for the school bus to drop off his son. She claimed that her father was Tasered and then shot four times, and that he was disabled.
“IT WAS A BOOK” one protester’s sign read.
Police declined to respond directly to the woman’s accusations.
A public records search shows that Scott was convicted in April 2004 of a misdemeanor assault with a deadly weapon charge in Mecklenburg County. Other charges stemming from that date were dismissed: felony assault with a deadly weapon with intent to kill, and misdemeanors assault on a child under 12, assault on a female and communicating threats.
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This is how it starts, the fever, the rage, the feeling of powerlessness that turns good men...cruel.
If police and the corrupt system keep making people feel powerless to stop these injustices, they can't act surprised when things like violent protest, riots or even police shootings happen. After all, it was that exact feeling of powerlessness that sent Christopher Dorner on his rampage. A good man turned cruel.
You can trace a lot of atrocities committed in history back to the feeling of powerlessness.
Things have to change, and it needs to happen fast.
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Was it a book? I've been looking for a response. I know a gun was found. Was it registered? So many unanswered questions.
| Quote: | In the video, the woman said her father was sitting in his car reading a book and waiting for the school bus to drop off his son. She claimed that her father was Tasered and then shot four times, and that he was disabled.
“IT WAS A BOOK” one protester’s sign read.
Police declined to respond directly to the woman’s accusations. |
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| jodeke wrote: | Was it a book? I've been looking for a response. I know a gun was found. Was it registered? So many unanswered questions.
| Quote: | In the video, the woman said her father was sitting in his car reading a book and waiting for the school bus to drop off his son. She claimed that her father was Tasered and then shot four times, and that he was disabled.
“IT WAS A BOOK” one protester’s sign read.
Police declined to respond directly to the woman’s accusations. |
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We'll never know truly. Chances are they planted a gun to cover their crime.
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| USCandLakers wrote: | | If police and the corrupt system keep making people feel powerless to stop these injustices, they can't act surprised when things like violent protest, riots or even police shootings happen. After all, it was that exact feeling of powerlessness that sent Christopher Dorner on his rampage. A good man turned cruel. |
I still shudder about Dorner. I think he had a lot more dirt to spill and they made sure to kill him as quick as possible. He wasn't going to be brought in alive. |
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| USCandLakers wrote: | | jodeke wrote: | Was it a book? I've been looking for a response. I know a gun was found. Was it registered? So many unanswered questions.
| Quote: | In the video, the woman said her father was sitting in his car reading a book and waiting for the school bus to drop off his son. She claimed that her father was Tasered and then shot four times, and that he was disabled.
“IT WAS A BOOK” one protester’s sign read.
Police declined to respond directly to the woman’s accusations. |
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We'll never know truly. Chances are they planted a gun to cover their crime. |
| Quote: | | “I can tell you we did not find a book that has been referenced to,” Putney said. “We did find a weapon. The weapon was there and witnesses have corroborated it, beyond just the officers.” |
What motive do the witnesses have? |
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Why does it have to be "shot an innocent black man" Why can't it be "shot an innocent man"?
"black" is the buzzword here and the left is gonna run with this. I don't think it was racially motivated at all. Just a big time (bleep) up by someone who shouldn't even wear a badge.
EDIT: Wait, the cop was black? What the (bleep) are we talking about??!!
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| USCandLakers wrote: | | DuncanIdaho wrote: | | Quote: | Charlotte faces aftermath of protests ignited by fatal police shooting; 16 officers injured
Charlotte officials say they are preparing for more protests today following a night of violence over a police officer’s fatal shooting of an African-American man Tuesday in the University City area. The dead man was identified as Keith Lamont Scott, 43.
Sixteen police officers were injured overnight in a series of clashes, and there were reports early Wednesday of motorists on Interstate 85 being hurt and their vehicles damaged when protesters threw rocks, bottles and traffic cones off interstate overpasses onto traffic below.
The officers hurt suffered mostly minor injuries, though one was hit in the face with a rock, officials said.
At a Wednesday news conference, city leaders appealed for calm and promised a thorough investigation.
Charlotte Mayor Jennifer Roberts held a Wednesday press conference and urged the community to remain calm and wait for the facts in the case to be released before jumping to conclusions.
Her comments came just an hour before one activist group held its own news conference, urging the black community to start an economic boycott of white-owned businesses Charlotte.
Roberts says she has been in contact with the governor’s office, the White House and the NAACP, and said the city would work to get out information as quickly as possible, while also dispelling rumors being spread on social media.
Charlotte-Mecklenburg Police Chief Kerr Putney said the department is still viewing video from the scene, though the officer involved in the shooting himself was not wearing a camera. Putney said the officer who fired the shots was in plain clothes, wearing a vest and was accompanied by uniformed officers when they approached the victim.
It remains unclear whether Scott was pointing a gun at the officer when he was shot, Putney said. The officer was also African-American.
Putney added that officers have not found a book at the scene of the shooting, contrary to social media claims that Scott was holding a book.
“I can tell you we did not find a book that has been referenced to,” Putney said. “We did find a weapon. The weapon was there and witnesses have corroborated it, beyond just the officers.”
[...]
Scott was not the person officers were searching for to arrest on the outstanding warrants, CMPD Chief Kerr Putney told reporters later.
Police said they recovered the firearm Scott was holding. But a woman who said she is Scott’s daughter claimed on a live-streamed video on Facebook that Scott was unarmed when he was shot. The video went viral, with more than 521,000 views by 9:30 p.m.
In the video, the woman said her father was sitting in his car reading a book and waiting for the school bus to drop off his son. She claimed that her father was Tasered and then shot four times, and that he was disabled.
“IT WAS A BOOK” one protester’s sign read.
Police declined to respond directly to the woman’s accusations.
A public records search shows that Scott was convicted in April 2004 of a misdemeanor assault with a deadly weapon charge in Mecklenburg County. Other charges stemming from that date were dismissed: felony assault with a deadly weapon with intent to kill, and misdemeanors assault on a child under 12, assault on a female and communicating threats.
http://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/local/crime/article103009432.html |
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This is how it starts, the fever, the rage, the feeling of powerlessness that turns good men...cruel.
If police and the corrupt system keep making people feel powerless to stop these injustices, they can't act surprised when things like violent protest, riots or even police shootings happen. After all, it was that exact feeling of powerlessness that sent Christopher Dorner on his rampage. A good man turned cruel.
You can trace a lot of atrocities committed in history back to the feeling of powerlessness.
Things have to change, and it needs to happen fast. |
Sounds like bad people just being bad people.
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| DuncanIdaho wrote: | | USCandLakers wrote: | | jodeke wrote: | Was it a book? I've been looking for a response. I know a gun was found. Was it registered? So many unanswered questions.
| Quote: | In the video, the woman said her father was sitting in his car reading a book and waiting for the school bus to drop off his son. She claimed that her father was Tasered and then shot four times, and that he was disabled.
“IT WAS A BOOK” one protester’s sign read.
Police declined to respond directly to the woman’s accusations. |
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We'll never know truly. Chances are they planted a gun to cover their crime. |
| Quote: | | “I can tell you we did not find a book that has been referenced to,” Putney said. “We did find a weapon. The weapon was there and witnesses have corroborated it, beyond just the officers.” |
What motive do the witnesses have? |
"Chances are they planted a gun to cover their crime."
As in, they planted a real gun. Not an invisible gun. A real one.
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| DuncanIdaho wrote: | | USCandLakers wrote: | | jodeke wrote: | Was it a book? I've been looking for a response. I know a gun was found. Was it registered? So many unanswered questions.
| Quote: | In the video, the woman said her father was sitting in his car reading a book and waiting for the school bus to drop off his son. She claimed that her father was Tasered and then shot four times, and that he was disabled.
“IT WAS A BOOK” one protester’s sign read.
Police declined to respond directly to the woman’s accusations. |
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We'll never know truly. Chances are they planted a gun to cover their crime. |
| Quote: | | “I can tell you we did not find a book that has been referenced to,” Putney said. “We did find a weapon. The weapon was there and witnesses have corroborated it, beyond just the officers.” |
What motive do the witnesses have? |
Thanks for the post. If it's true it doesn't look good for the victim. I'll go into a wait and see mode.
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| frijolero01 wrote: | Why does it have to be "shot an innocent black man" Why can't it be "shot an innocent man"?
"black" is the buzzword here and the left is gonna run with this. I don't think it was racially motivated at all. Just a big time (bleep) up by someone who shouldn't even wear a badge.
EDIT: Wait, the cop was black? What the (bleep) are we talking about??!! |
Two different murders. The OP is about a white woman executing a black man with his hands in the air. That took place in Tulsa. The one in Charlotte is about a black officer murdering a black man holding a book. That man wasn't even the suspect they were looking for.
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| jodeke wrote: | | DuncanIdaho wrote: | | USCandLakers wrote: | | jodeke wrote: | Was it a book? I've been looking for a response. I know a gun was found. Was it registered? So many unanswered questions.
| Quote: | In the video, the woman said her father was sitting in his car reading a book and waiting for the school bus to drop off his son. She claimed that her father was Tasered and then shot four times, and that he was disabled.
“IT WAS A BOOK” one protester’s sign read.
Police declined to respond directly to the woman’s accusations. |
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We'll never know truly. Chances are they planted a gun to cover their crime. |
| Quote: | | “I can tell you we did not find a book that has been referenced to,” Putney said. “We did find a weapon. The weapon was there and witnesses have corroborated it, beyond just the officers.” |
What motive do the witnesses have? |
Thanks for the post. If it's true it doesn't look good for the victim. I'll go into a wait and see mode. |
I think it would behoove everyone on both sides to wait for facts to come out, agreed. It's so easy to pass hasty judgement.
It could be this was an innocent guy with a book, or it could be he had an illegal weapon. We don't really know yet for sure. |
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| jodeke wrote: | | DuncanIdaho wrote: | | USCandLakers wrote: | | jodeke wrote: | Was it a book? I've been looking for a response. I know a gun was found. Was it registered? So many unanswered questions.
| Quote: | In the video, the woman said her father was sitting in his car reading a book and waiting for the school bus to drop off his son. She claimed that her father was Tasered and then shot four times, and that he was disabled.
“IT WAS A BOOK” one protester’s sign read.
Police declined to respond directly to the woman’s accusations. |
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We'll never know truly. Chances are they planted a gun to cover their crime. |
| Quote: | | “I can tell you we did not find a book that has been referenced to,” Putney said. “We did find a weapon. The weapon was there and witnesses have corroborated it, beyond just the officers.” |
What motive do the witnesses have? |
Thanks for the post. If it's true it doesn't look good for the victim. I'll go into a wait and see mode. |
The victim in that case wasn't even the suspect, he was just some random guy, and North Carolina is an open carry state. Even if he did have a gun(which I do not believe) that is not justification for murdering him. Why do I have the feeling the NRA will stay silent on this?
The cop in question apparently saw the man as an "imminent threat" and gunned him down with no warning whatsoever. Which is code for "I saw something in his hand and he could have robbed my son of a father. I was scared." Let me guess, even though the man had no connection to the reason why the cops were there, the man saw a bunch of cops and just up and decided he wanted to kill them?
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| DuncanIdaho wrote: | | jodeke wrote: | | DuncanIdaho wrote: | | USCandLakers wrote: | | jodeke wrote: | Was it a book? I've been looking for a response. I know a gun was found. Was it registered? So many unanswered questions.
| Quote: | In the video, the woman said her father was sitting in his car reading a book and waiting for the school bus to drop off his son. She claimed that her father was Tasered and then shot four times, and that he was disabled.
“IT WAS A BOOK” one protester’s sign read.
Police declined to respond directly to the woman’s accusations. |
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We'll never know truly. Chances are they planted a gun to cover their crime. |
| Quote: | | “I can tell you we did not find a book that has been referenced to,” Putney said. “We did find a weapon. The weapon was there and witnesses have corroborated it, beyond just the officers.” |
What motive do the witnesses have? |
Thanks for the post. If it's true it doesn't look good for the victim. I'll go into a wait and see mode. |
I think it would behoove everyone on both sides to wait for facts to come out, agreed. It's so easy to pass hasty judgement.
It could be this was an innocent guy with a book, or it could be he had an illegal weapon. We don't really know yet for sure. |
And we're never going to know. The "facts" that come out in these cases are usually just the "criminal" history of the victim that's meant to make people less empathetic about his death. 30 years ago he got arrested for DUI. You see? He really did have a gun. The only facts that can possibly come out are the ones the corrupt police department tells. If there is no visual evidence, all we're going to hear about is this gun they likely planted for all the "witnesses" to see. Nothing of the fact that this man wasn't even the one they were there for, and how he would have no reason to draw on a random cop while he was waiting to pick up his kids.
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| USCandLakers wrote: | | DuncanIdaho wrote: | | jodeke wrote: | | DuncanIdaho wrote: | | USCandLakers wrote: | | jodeke wrote: | Was it a book? I've been looking for a response. I know a gun was found. Was it registered? So many unanswered questions.
| Quote: | In the video, the woman said her father was sitting in his car reading a book and waiting for the school bus to drop off his son. She claimed that her father was Tasered and then shot four times, and that he was disabled.
“IT WAS A BOOK” one protester’s sign read.
Police declined to respond directly to the woman’s accusations. |
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We'll never know truly. Chances are they planted a gun to cover their crime. |
| Quote: | | “I can tell you we did not find a book that has been referenced to,” Putney said. “We did find a weapon. The weapon was there and witnesses have corroborated it, beyond just the officers.” |
What motive do the witnesses have? |
Thanks for the post. If it's true it doesn't look good for the victim. I'll go into a wait and see mode. |
I think it would behoove everyone on both sides to wait for facts to come out, agreed. It's so easy to pass hasty judgement.
It could be this was an innocent guy with a book, or it could be he had an illegal weapon. We don't really know yet for sure. |
And we're never going to know. The "facts" that come out in these cases are usually just the "criminal" history of the victim that's meant to make people less empathetic about his death. 30 years ago he got arrested for DUI. You see? He really did have a gun. The only facts that can possibly come out are the ones the corrupt police department tells. If there is no visual evidence, all we're going to hear about is this gun they likely planted for all the "witnesses" to see. Nothing of the fact that this man wasn't even the one they were there for, and how he would have no reason to draw on a random cop while he was waiting to pick up his kids. |
Or 10 years ago for assault with a deadly weapon.
The cop that shot him is black. The chief of police is black. Witness corroboration. What else?
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| USCandLakers wrote: | | jodeke wrote: | Was it a book? I've been looking for a response. I know a gun was found. Was it registered? So many unanswered questions.
| Quote: | In the video, the woman said her father was sitting in his car reading a book and waiting for the school bus to drop off his son. She claimed that her father was Tasered and then shot four times, and that he was disabled.
“IT WAS A BOOK” one protester’s sign read.
Police declined to respond directly to the woman’s accusations. |
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We'll never know truly. Chances are they planted a gun to cover their crime. |
"Chances are"? |
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Aussiesuede
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| Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2016 11:54 am Post subject: |
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| Reflexx wrote: | | USCandLakers wrote: | | jodeke wrote: | Was it a book? I've been looking for a response. I know a gun was found. Was it registered? So many unanswered questions.
| Quote: | In the video, the woman said her father was sitting in his car reading a book and waiting for the school bus to drop off his son. She claimed that her father was Tasered and then shot four times, and that he was disabled.
“IT WAS A BOOK” one protester’s sign read.
Police declined to respond directly to the woman’s accusations. |
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We'll never know truly. Chances are they planted a gun to cover their crime. |
"Chances are"? |
Pretty Good:
| Quote: | Newly released footage has shed a troubling new light on a 2011 police shooting in St. Louis, showing an officer gun down a black suspect and then planting a gun on the crime scene.
Officer Jason Stockley and his partner Brian Bianchi had engaged drug suspect Anthony Lamar Smith in a high speed chase. Stockley can be heard saying “I’m going to kill this (bleep).”
The police rammed Smith off the road, and camera footage shows Stockley shooting five shots into the driver’s seat of Smith’s disabled car.
New footage now reveals Stockley taking a gun out of a duffel back from the back of his own cruiser and planting it on Smith’s body. Stockley claimed in his report that Smith had pointed the weapon at him, justifying the use of lethal force.
Subsequent DNA evidence on the gun, however, did not contain any DNA or fingerprints from Smith. |
Cop Planting Gun
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DuncanIdaho
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| Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2016 11:58 am Post subject: |
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| Aussiesuede wrote: | | Reflexx wrote: | | USCandLakers wrote: | | jodeke wrote: | Was it a book? I've been looking for a response. I know a gun was found. Was it registered? So many unanswered questions.
| Quote: | In the video, the woman said her father was sitting in his car reading a book and waiting for the school bus to drop off his son. She claimed that her father was Tasered and then shot four times, and that he was disabled.
“IT WAS A BOOK” one protester’s sign read.
Police declined to respond directly to the woman’s accusations. |
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We'll never know truly. Chances are they planted a gun to cover their crime. |
"Chances are"? |
Pretty Good:
| Quote: | Newly released footage has shed a troubling new light on a 2011 police shooting in St. Louis, showing an officer gun down a black suspect and then planting a gun on the crime scene.
Officer Jason Stockley and his partner Brian Bianchi had engaged drug suspect Anthony Lamar Smith in a high speed chase. Stockley can be heard saying “I’m going to kill this (bleep).”
The police rammed Smith off the road, and camera footage shows Stockley shooting five shots into the driver’s seat of Smith’s disabled car.
New footage now reveals Stockley taking a gun out of a duffel back from the back of his own cruiser and planting it on Smith’s body. Stockley claimed in his report that Smith had pointed the weapon at him, justifying the use of lethal force.
Subsequent DNA evidence on the gun, however, did not contain any DNA or fingerprints from Smith. |
Cop Planting Gun |
That equates to "pretty good chance" in this case? Come on man, you're smarter than that. |
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USCandLakers
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| Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2016 12:01 pm Post subject: |
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| DuncanIdaho wrote: | | USCandLakers wrote: | | DuncanIdaho wrote: | | jodeke wrote: | | DuncanIdaho wrote: | | USCandLakers wrote: | | jodeke wrote: | Was it a book? I've been looking for a response. I know a gun was found. Was it registered? So many unanswered questions.
| Quote: | In the video, the woman said her father was sitting in his car reading a book and waiting for the school bus to drop off his son. She claimed that her father was Tasered and then shot four times, and that he was disabled.
“IT WAS A BOOK” one protester’s sign read.
Police declined to respond directly to the woman’s accusations. |
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We'll never know truly. Chances are they planted a gun to cover their crime. |
| Quote: | | “I can tell you we did not find a book that has been referenced to,” Putney said. “We did find a weapon. The weapon was there and witnesses have corroborated it, beyond just the officers.” |
What motive do the witnesses have? |
Thanks for the post. If it's true it doesn't look good for the victim. I'll go into a wait and see mode. |
I think it would behoove everyone on both sides to wait for facts to come out, agreed. It's so easy to pass hasty judgement.
It could be this was an innocent guy with a book, or it could be he had an illegal weapon. We don't really know yet for sure. |
And we're never going to know. The "facts" that come out in these cases are usually just the "criminal" history of the victim that's meant to make people less empathetic about his death. 30 years ago he got arrested for DUI. You see? He really did have a gun. The only facts that can possibly come out are the ones the corrupt police department tells. If there is no visual evidence, all we're going to hear about is this gun they likely planted for all the "witnesses" to see. Nothing of the fact that this man wasn't even the one they were there for, and how he would have no reason to draw on a random cop while he was waiting to pick up his kids. |
Or 10 years ago for assault with a deadly weapon.
The cop that shot him is black. The chief of police is black. Witness corroboration. What else? |
What does any of this matter? So a black cop can't murder someone? A black police chief can't lie? A black cop can't cover his own ass because the person he murdered was black? The fact that the cop was black has 0% relevance. People lie, people murder, people cover up their crimes no matter their skin color. I honestly can't understand how you think the cop being black has relevance.
There are also witnesses that say the man was holding a book. If the police planted a gun, of course people are going to see the gun that they planted. No one claimed they planted an invisible gun.
There are no witnesses that corroborate the officer's claim that the man "made a threat" to the officers. That is a lie that no one but the police will corroborate. No one has to corroborate it, because there are still a lot of people that take the police for their word, elevating these murderers to pedestals as if they are the most honorable of the honorable. They lie, they are constantly caught lying, and they constantly get away with murder and stomping on people's rights. They have no honor.
As I said, which you conveniently ignored, it does not matter whether the man had a gun or not. North Carolina is an open carry state. The matter in question is whether the man made a "threat to the officers," which is highly unlikely considering he would have had no reason to. They weren't there for him. He was there to pick up his kid. They yelled gun and then shot him. Cop got scared and murdered someone holding a book. Fellow cops back him up. Just as they all do.
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DuncanIdaho
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| Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2016 12:03 pm Post subject: |
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| USCandLakers wrote: | | DuncanIdaho wrote: | | USCandLakers wrote: | | DuncanIdaho wrote: | | jodeke wrote: | | DuncanIdaho wrote: | | USCandLakers wrote: | | jodeke wrote: | Was it a book? I've been looking for a response. I know a gun was found. Was it registered? So many unanswered questions.
| Quote: | In the video, the woman said her father was sitting in his car reading a book and waiting for the school bus to drop off his son. She claimed that her father was Tasered and then shot four times, and that he was disabled.
“IT WAS A BOOK” one protester’s sign read.
Police declined to respond directly to the woman’s accusations. |
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We'll never know truly. Chances are they planted a gun to cover their crime. |
| Quote: | | “I can tell you we did not find a book that has been referenced to,” Putney said. “We did find a weapon. The weapon was there and witnesses have corroborated it, beyond just the officers.” |
What motive do the witnesses have? |
Thanks for the post. If it's true it doesn't look good for the victim. I'll go into a wait and see mode. |
I think it would behoove everyone on both sides to wait for facts to come out, agreed. It's so easy to pass hasty judgement.
It could be this was an innocent guy with a book, or it could be he had an illegal weapon. We don't really know yet for sure. |
And we're never going to know. The "facts" that come out in these cases are usually just the "criminal" history of the victim that's meant to make people less empathetic about his death. 30 years ago he got arrested for DUI. You see? He really did have a gun. The only facts that can possibly come out are the ones the corrupt police department tells. If there is no visual evidence, all we're going to hear about is this gun they likely planted for all the "witnesses" to see. Nothing of the fact that this man wasn't even the one they were there for, and how he would have no reason to draw on a random cop while he was waiting to pick up his kids. |
Or 10 years ago for assault with a deadly weapon.
The cop that shot him is black. The chief of police is black. Witness corroboration. What else? |
What does any of this matter? So a black cop can't murder someone? A black police chief can't lie? A black cop can't cover his own ass because the person he murdered was black? The fact that the cop was black has 0% relevance. People lie, people murder, people cover up their crimes no matter their skin color. I honestly can't understand how you think the cop being black has relevance.
There are also witnesses that say the man was holding a book. If the police planted a gun, of course people are going to see the gun that they planted. No one claimed they planted an invisible gun.
There are no witnesses that corroborate the officer's claim that the man "made a threat" to the officers. That is a lie that no one but the police will corroborate. No one has to corroborate it, because there are still a lot of people that take the police for their word, elevating these murderers to pedestals as if they are the most honorable of the honorable. They lie, they are constantly caught lying, and they constantly get away with murder and stomping on people's rights. They have no honor.
As I said, which you conveniently ignored, it does not matter whether the man had a gun or not. North Carolina is an open carry state. The matter in question is whether the man made a "threat to the officers," which is highly unlikely considering he would have had no reason to. They weren't there for him. He was there to pick up his kid. They yelled gun and then shot him. Cop got scared and murdered someone holding a book. Fellow cops back him up. Just as they all do. |
Maybe because the people protesting are calling for boycotting white business. As if white people had anything to do with this shooting.
And if he did have a gun, and it wasn't holstered, that is brandishing.
You seem to think all cops are bad. I happen to be friends with many LEO and I can't tell you enough what a (bleep) job they have. None of them are murderers. The vast majority aren't bad people.
Are all black people bad because cops get shot by black people at a rate 18 times greater than cops shoot black people? Hell no. |
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