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Inspector Gadget Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2017 12:20 pm Post subject: |
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BobbyB wrote: | Inspector Gadget wrote: | BobbyB wrote: | Man if I was PG I would have a real interest in joining Boston as well....
Not only do they have a good "team" but they also have a crapload of picks including a possible 1st this year...
They have players who know there role and play hard. If you really want to win you go to Boston |
He was speaking highly of there chemistry recently, while he still hasnt said anything about the Lakers..that is why the article suggests that we need to sign a star for the Paul George gate to be possible. |
For sure I think a question you should ask is...
IS Myles Turner more valuable than Griffin?
If the answer is yes then why would George think its a good idea to team up with Griffin. |
Its not about who is valuable.. its about showing other players a reason to join. |
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BobbyB Star Player
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Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2017 12:22 pm Post subject: |
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Inspector Gadget wrote: | BobbyB wrote: | Inspector Gadget wrote: | BobbyB wrote: | Man if I was PG I would have a real interest in joining Boston as well....
Not only do they have a good "team" but they also have a crapload of picks including a possible 1st this year...
They have players who know there role and play hard. If you really want to win you go to Boston |
He was speaking highly of there chemistry recently, while he still hasnt said anything about the Lakers..that is why the article suggests that we need to sign a star for the Paul George gate to be possible. |
For sure I think a question you should ask is...
IS Myles Turner more valuable than Griffin?
If the answer is yes then why would George think its a good idea to team up with Griffin. |
Its not about who is valuable.. its about showing other players a reason to join. |
That's my point...Is Blake Griffin a reason to join? is he going to be a better option than playing next to Myles Turner? |
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Inspector Gadget Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2017 12:23 pm Post subject: |
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adkindo wrote: | Inspector Gadget wrote: | adkindo wrote: | Inspector Gadget wrote: | adkindo wrote: | Chase.button07 wrote: | started listening to Rob Pelinka with woj.
Rob invited woj to the lakers facility woj in heaven |
was glad to hear Pelinka tell Woj that stars can be acquired in the draft. |
How can a star be acquired in the draft? |
you send the guys name to the commissioner? |
So its about drafting star talent? |
I am not sure what your asking. did you listen to Pelinka? |
I didnt i hope you can post some of the context. |
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Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2017 12:25 pm Post subject: |
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BobbyB wrote: | Inspector Gadget wrote: | BobbyB wrote: | Inspector Gadget wrote: | BobbyB wrote: | Man if I was PG I would have a real interest in joining Boston as well....
Not only do they have a good "team" but they also have a crapload of picks including a possible 1st this year...
They have players who know there role and play hard. If you really want to win you go to Boston |
He was speaking highly of there chemistry recently, while he still hasnt said anything about the Lakers..that is why the article suggests that we need to sign a star for the Paul George gate to be possible. |
For sure I think a question you should ask is...
IS Myles Turner more valuable than Griffin?
If the answer is yes then why would George think its a good idea to team up with Griffin. |
Its not about who is valuable.. its about showing other players a reason to join. |
That's my point...Is Blake Griffin a reason to join? is he going to be a better option than playing next to Myles Turner? |
Griffin is better then anyone on the Lakers and Pacers roster. |
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Deathstroke Star Player
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Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2017 12:39 pm Post subject: |
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BobbyB wrote: | Inspector Gadget wrote: | BobbyB wrote: | Man if I was PG I would have a real interest in joining Boston as well....
Not only do they have a good "team" but they also have a crapload of picks including a possible 1st this year...
They have players who know there role and play hard. If you really want to win you go to Boston |
He was speaking highly of there chemistry recently, while he still hasnt said anything about the Lakers..that is why the article suggests that we need to sign a star for the Paul George gate to be possible. |
For sure I think a question you should ask is...
IS Myles Turner more valuable than Griffin?
If the answer is yes then why would George think its a good idea to team up with Griffin. |
Turner isn't nearly as valuable as Griffin right now. Turner is probably 2-3 years away from that level if he continues improving. |
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Blake Griffin could consider Lakers, Celtics in free agency
Reportedly, the star forward could be looking for a fresh start
Quote: | The Blake Griffin rumors are starting again. In a feature about the Los Angeles Clippers, Bleacher Report’s Kevin Ding reported that league insiders increasingly believe the star forward could look elsewhere in free agency this coming summer. The story also mentions the three most popular potential destinations for Griffin: the Los Angeles Lakers, Boston Celtics and Oklahoma City Thunder. |
http://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/report-clippers-blake-griffin-could-consider-lakers-celtics-in-free-agency/ |
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Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2017 12:45 pm Post subject: |
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Deathstroke wrote: | BobbyB wrote: | Inspector Gadget wrote: | BobbyB wrote: | Man if I was PG I would have a real interest in joining Boston as well....
Not only do they have a good "team" but they also have a crapload of picks including a possible 1st this year...
They have players who know there role and play hard. If you really want to win you go to Boston |
He was speaking highly of there chemistry recently, while he still hasnt said anything about the Lakers..that is why the article suggests that we need to sign a star for the Paul George gate to be possible. |
For sure I think a question you should ask is...
IS Myles Turner more valuable than Griffin?
If the answer is yes then why would George think its a good idea to team up with Griffin. |
Turner isn't nearly as valuable as Griffin right now. Turner is probably 2-3 years away from that level if he continues improving. |
And even if he does, he doesnt have the athleticism and passing abilities.. im not why Turner is being bought up... this is about getting Griffin and having others willing to come here. |
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BobbyB Star Player
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Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2017 1:00 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah Turner may not have Athleticism and passing abilities...but he has rim protection and shooting over Griffin for sure.
I'm just not sold on this idea that Griffin somehow attracts PG...doesn't make sense to me. I guess I just don't hold Griffin to the same level as some of you. |
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Deathstroke Star Player
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Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2017 1:13 pm Post subject: |
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BobbyB wrote: | Yeah Turner may not have Athleticism and passing abilities...but he has rim protection and shooting over Griffin for sure.
I'm just not sold on this idea that Griffin somehow attracts PG...doesn't make sense to me. I guess I just don't hold Griffin to the same level as some of you. |
When Griffin is healthy he's 22/9/5 on 56%TS. Not many players in the league can provide that. |
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Dr. Funkbot Star Player
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Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2017 1:22 pm Post subject: |
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Deathstroke wrote: | BobbyB wrote: | Yeah Turner may not have Athleticism and passing abilities...but he has rim protection and shooting over Griffin for sure.
I'm just not sold on this idea that Griffin somehow attracts PG...doesn't make sense to me. I guess I just don't hold Griffin to the same level as some of you. |
When Griffin is healthy he's 22/9/5 on 56%TS. Not many players in the league can provide that. |
I'd take Turner over Griffin at this point in time. Turner is cheaper and will improve over time. Griffin will be hella expensive, still plays no D and is going to decline as his athleticism leaves him. _________________ R.I.P. Doc Buss |
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Blake is a big D and someone who is a jerk, but I don't see the Lakers turning him down if he's interested. He's still a marquee draw and top 20 player. Not my first choice but to this FO probably would be of interest. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2017 1:44 pm Post subject: |
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Blake would be a relatively attainable get especially if Doc bolts to Orlando. Then Blake can get a fresh start as the prime star while not having to leave the city.
The other plus is we then have a luxury at PF and can trade Julius to unload a Moz/Deng while getting a serviceable player back (Melo/Brook) and keeping Ingram/Dlo/Top 3 for future moves. |
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BobbyB Star Player
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Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2017 1:46 pm Post subject: |
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crucifixion wrote: | Blake would be a relatively attainable get especially if Doc bolts to Orlando. Then Blake can get a fresh start as the prime star while not having to leave the city.
The other plus is we then have a luxury at PF and can trade Julius to unload a Moz/Deng while getting a serviceable player back (Melo/Brook) and keeping Ingram/Dlo/Top 3 for future moves. |
or we could just keep randle...who is younger, and could be had on a cheaper deal...and actually could become a better player than Blake in the next year or 2 |
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Chase.button07 Star Player
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Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2017 1:51 pm Post subject: |
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yinoma2001 wrote: | Blake is a big D and someone who is a jerk, but I don't see the Lakers turning him down if he's interested. He's still a marquee draw and top 20 player. Not my first choice but to this FO probably would be of interest. |
which nba player isn't? |
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Chase.button07 Star Player
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Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2017 1:52 pm Post subject: |
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BobbyB wrote: | crucifixion wrote: | Blake would be a relatively attainable get especially if Doc bolts to Orlando. Then Blake can get a fresh start as the prime star while not having to leave the city.
The other plus is we then have a luxury at PF and can trade Julius to unload a Moz/Deng while getting a serviceable player back (Melo/Brook) and keeping Ingram/Dlo/Top 3 for future moves. |
or we could just keep randle...who is younger, and could be had on a cheaper deal...and actually could become a better player than Blake in the next year or 2 |
whats a cheap deal for Randle? |
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Dr. Funkbot Star Player
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Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2017 1:56 pm Post subject: |
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BobbyB wrote: | crucifixion wrote: | Blake would be a relatively attainable get especially if Doc bolts to Orlando. Then Blake can get a fresh start as the prime star while not having to leave the city.
The other plus is we then have a luxury at PF and can trade Julius to unload a Moz/Deng while getting a serviceable player back (Melo/Brook) and keeping Ingram/Dlo/Top 3 for future moves. |
or we could just keep randle...who is younger, and could be had on a cheaper deal...and actually could become a better player than Blake in the next year or 2 |
Well they both have short arms and don't play D. Blake in his prime is a much better leaper, but he ain't getting any younger. Blake also now has much more range than JR.
It's a wash IMO. Both are flawed players, but JR is a lot younger and has a chance to improve his D and his shooting. _________________ R.I.P. Doc Buss |
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BobbyB Star Player
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Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2017 2:00 pm Post subject: |
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Chase.button07 wrote: | BobbyB wrote: | crucifixion wrote: | Blake would be a relatively attainable get especially if Doc bolts to Orlando. Then Blake can get a fresh start as the prime star while not having to leave the city.
The other plus is we then have a luxury at PF and can trade Julius to unload a Moz/Deng while getting a serviceable player back (Melo/Brook) and keeping Ingram/Dlo/Top 3 for future moves. |
or we could just keep randle...who is younger, and could be had on a cheaper deal...and actually could become a better player than Blake in the next year or 2 |
whats a cheap deal for Randle? |
isn't his max cheaper than Blake? |
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Chase.button07 Star Player
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Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2017 2:01 pm Post subject: |
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BobbyB wrote: |
isn't his max cheaper than Blake? |
u want to pay Randle max? |
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BobbyB Star Player
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Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2017 2:10 pm Post subject: |
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Chase.button07 wrote: | BobbyB wrote: |
isn't his max cheaper than Blake? |
u want to pay Randle max? |
If that's what he gets on open market after next season. I would match yes. |
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Chase.button07 Star Player
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Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2017 2:24 pm Post subject: |
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BobbyB wrote: | Chase.button07 wrote: | BobbyB wrote: |
isn't his max cheaper than Blake? |
u want to pay Randle max? |
If that's what he gets on open market after next season. I would match yes. |
nobody is paying him max. i wouldn't pay him more then Clarkson. |
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Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2017 2:25 pm Post subject: |
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Chase.button07 wrote: | BobbyB wrote: | Chase.button07 wrote: | BobbyB wrote: |
isn't his max cheaper than Blake? |
u want to pay Randle max? |
If that's what he gets on open market after next season. I would match yes. |
nobody is paying him max. i wouldn't pay him more then Clarkson. |
What is his max like 18 million? if he stays consistent next year, due to his age I can see someone offering max. If he doesn't get offered max than we can offer a deal that we feel is fair at the time. |
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Chase.button07 Star Player
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Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2017 2:28 pm Post subject: |
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BobbyB wrote: | Chase.button07 wrote: | BobbyB wrote: | Chase.button07 wrote: | BobbyB wrote: |
isn't his max cheaper than Blake? |
u want to pay Randle max? |
If that's what he gets on open market after next season. I would match yes. |
nobody is paying him max. i wouldn't pay him more then Clarkson. |
What is his max like 18 million? if he stays consistent next year, due to his age I can see someone offering max. If he doesn't get offered max than we can offer a deal that we feel is fair at the time. |
its around 25m/26m.
Report: Blazers, C.J. McCollum agree to four-year, $106 million extension
Bucks, Giannis Antetokounmpo agree to 4-year, $100 million contract extension |
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BobbyB Star Player
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Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2017 2:31 pm Post subject: |
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Chase.button07 wrote: | BobbyB wrote: | Chase.button07 wrote: | BobbyB wrote: | Chase.button07 wrote: | BobbyB wrote: |
isn't his max cheaper than Blake? |
u want to pay Randle max? |
If that's what he gets on open market after next season. I would match yes. |
nobody is paying him max. i wouldn't pay him more then Clarkson. |
What is his max like 18 million? if he stays consistent next year, due to his age I can see someone offering max. If he doesn't get offered max than we can offer a deal that we feel is fair at the time. |
its around 25m/26m.
Report: Blazers, C.J. McCollum agree to four-year, $106 million extension
Bucks, Giannis Antetokounmpo agree to 4-year, $100 million contract extension |
For sure well if Lakers decide to hang onto Randle this next season they shouldn't let him walk for nothing. If he can put up 18/10/4 next season as as 23 year old and show consistency. I feel like you have to pay him. Whether he gets max or not remains to be seen. |
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Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2017 2:33 pm Post subject: |
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Do people really think Griffin isnt worth the investment? I guess we are the Lakers and we only sign Hall of famers. |
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Chase.button07 Star Player
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Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2017 2:34 pm Post subject: |
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BobbyB wrote: | Chase.button07 wrote: | BobbyB wrote: | Chase.button07 wrote: | BobbyB wrote: | Chase.button07 wrote: | BobbyB wrote: |
isn't his max cheaper than Blake? |
u want to pay Randle max? |
If that's what he gets on open market after next season. I would match yes. |
nobody is paying him max. i wouldn't pay him more then Clarkson. |
What is his max like 18 million? if he stays consistent next year, due to his age I can see someone offering max. If he doesn't get offered max than we can offer a deal that we feel is fair at the time. |
its around 25m/26m.
Report: Blazers, C.J. McCollum agree to four-year, $106 million extension
Bucks, Giannis Antetokounmpo agree to 4-year, $100 million contract extension |
For sure well if Lakers decide to hang onto Randle this next season they shouldn't let him walk for nothing. If he can put up 18/10/4 next season as as 23 year old and show consistency. I feel like you have to pay him. Whether he gets max or not remains to be seen. |
he is a bad bad defender. ill prefer to trade him this summer. no defense, no effort doesn't win you championship when you don't even have a jumper. |
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