Bulls are going to lose this series and they will need stretch 4.
How about rondo for Deng?
Before you freakout and say no to rondo, please remember his contract is not guaranteed and had team option.
I only want that contract and not rondo the player
Isn't Mirotic supposed to be a stretch 4? Wouldn't they rather re-sign him than be burdened with Deng's contract?
Deng has a lot of close associations with the Bulls franchise, he is way more known there then Mirotic is and he would actually feel comfortable playing in a envorinment that he has experience with.
IDk if I agree with this reasoning. Its not like Deng is going back to the same coach or players he played with before. there whole team is different.
That being said why would they get rid of Mirotic whos 26 and a better 3 pt shooter. Probably had on a way better deal for Deng?
Why wouldn't Chicago just retain Mirotic and cut Rondo instead of dealing for Deng? Mirotic is younger, restricted and won't see more than Deng money. _________________ Austin Reaves keeps his game tight, like Kobe Bryant on game night.
Why wouldn't Chicago just retain Mirotic and cut Rondo instead of dealing for Deng? Mirotic is younger, restricted and won't see more than Deng money.
I have read a lot of criticism from Chicago fans on Mirotic... a lot thought he would be a superstar but he's only been a role player, maybe they just like Deng more then Mirotic for contract numbers not to matter.
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Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 6:46 pm Post subject:
MJST wrote:
Westbrook losing it
it was a legitimate question....not sure what Russ is thinking....he does not get to decide the facts, and his on/off numbers are the real story of this series and basically their season.
it was a legitimate question....not sure what Russ is thinking....he does not get to decide the facts, and his on/off numbers are the real story of this series and basically their season.
He also controlled the entire situation and Adams didn't even get a chance to get a word in till it was uncomfortable and he didn't feel like saying anything. _________________ How NBA 2K18 failed the All-Time Lakers:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxMBYm3wwxk
This tweet is beyond accurate. Espically with people saying Joe Johnson wouldn't have came here last summer
https://twitter.com/dragonflyjonez/status/856351304867876868 _________________ "He's a Zen master, so he can speak to you, and he doesn't need a microphone; you can hear him in your head, 'Ron, don't shoot, don't shoot.' Whatever, pow, three. I love the Zen, though."
JJ was amazing down the stretch. I have new found respect for his game and how he's made the Clippers cry this series. Here's hoping he can do it two more times.
if we somehow keep our top 3 pick in this solid draft, and trade it for a player that has been hinting he was coming to the Lakers in 2018 behind the scenes for years....it has the potential to go down as one of the dumbest moves in recent history.
if we somehow keep our top 3 pick in this solid draft, and trade it for a player that has been hinting he was coming to the Lakers in 2018 behind the scenes for years....it has the potential to go down as one of the dumbest moves in recent history.
I don't want to give up any assets either but I'm pretty sure that if Paul George ends up wanting to leave in 2018 and the Pacers are trading him, then he's going to the team with the best offer which means he'll be in a totally new place next season and likely sign an extension with that team.
and if the Pacers aren't going to trade him then we won't trade our top 3 pick so well be ight regardless _________________ “Life is too short. You have to keep it moving.” - Kobe
if we somehow keep our top 3 pick in this solid draft, and trade it for a player that has been hinting he was coming to the Lakers in 2018 behind the scenes for years....it has the potential to go down as one of the dumbest moves in recent history.
I don't want to give up any assets either but I'm pretty sure that if Paul George ends up wanting to leave in 2018 and the Pacers are trading him, then he's going to the team with the best offer which means he'll be in a totally new place next season and likely sign an extension with that team.
and if the Pacers aren't going to trade him then we won't trade our top 3 pick so well be ight regardless
I disagree that he likely signs an extension if he is traded....this is a guy that has been longing to return to LA for years....he is not going to sign a 5 year contract that locks him in Boston or Denver.
if we somehow keep our top 3 pick in this solid draft, and trade it for a player that has been hinting he was coming to the Lakers in 2018 behind the scenes for years....it has the potential to go down as one of the dumbest moves in recent history.
I don't want to give up any assets either but I'm pretty sure that if Paul George ends up wanting to leave in 2018 and the Pacers are trading him, then he's going to the team with the best offer which means he'll be in a totally new place next season and likely sign an extension with that team.
and if the Pacers aren't going to trade him then we won't trade our top 3 pick so well be ight regardless
I disagree that he likely signs an extension if he is traded....this is a guy that has been longing to return to LA for years....he is not going to sign a 5 year contract that locks him in Boston or Denver.
You know that his sudden longing to return home started when our new management came in place?
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Why wouldn't Chicago just retain Mirotic and cut Rondo instead of dealing for Deng? Mirotic is younger, restricted and won't see more than Deng money.
I have read a lot of criticism from Chicago fans on Mirotic... a lot thought he would be a superstar but he's only been a role player, maybe they just like Deng more then Mirotic for contract numbers not to matter.
Chicago is one of the organizations that care about the contract, always. They believe in making money more than most. _________________ Austin Reaves keeps his game tight, like Kobe Bryant on game night.
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Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 9:15 pm Post subject:
One possible benefit to a Clipper series win over the Jazz would be that Hayward might be more inclined to leave, if he strongly weighs championship aspirations over more money/comfort of his current situation. Imagine Utah losing this series and the Celtics making it to the ECF. If he's the type that really wants to win, maybe he'll think that going to a team that just made the ECF--without him--is the way to go.
And you'd have to think that Boston would prefer to sign Hayward without giving up any assets, rather than signing PG and giving up assets. (Or giving up assets for Butler, although I suppose they could really go for a splash and sign Hayward and trade for Butler, who would give them the perimeter defender that they already have in Bradley, but with much better offense.)
I think Hayward is staying with Utah. Its true he tried to leave in the past, but the Jazz are a much better team now and they are on the rise.
I never put much stock in the "Hayward wants to go to Boston" stories. The only thing its based on is his old college coach is the Celtics coach. Not much there imo.
Since we are talking about Utah, Joe Ingles is a much more well rounded player than I thought. I had him pegged as just a three point specialist, but he can do a lot of different things out there.
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Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 10:15 pm Post subject:
Cochese wrote:
I think Hayward is staying with Utah. Its true he tried to leave in the past, but the Jazz are a much better team now and they are on the rise.
I never put much stock in the "Hayward wants to go to Boston" stories. The only thing its based on is his old college coach is the Celtics coach. Not much there imo.
Since we are talking about Utah, Joe Ingles is a much more well rounded player than I thought. I had him pegged as just a three point specialist, but he can do a lot of different things out there.
Utah is the favorite for sure. But we can't possibly know his true motivations and what might tip the scales one way or the other. As you mentioned, he did almost leave once. Utah is a nice team, but they remind me of Toronto last season a bit. There's absolutely no guarantee that they get any better, even with Gobert around. (For example, what happens if they lose George Hill?) With Boston, it's the easier conference, LeBron is much closer to the end of his window than Golden State is, he wouldn't have to do it all by himself as far as the scoring load, and, yes, he has a comfort level with Stevens. I do think that the chances of him going to Boston go up at least slightly if Utah loses this series to the Clippers.
Besides PG being available I think Westbrook, Drummond and Favors will also be shopped this offseason.
Based on salaries OKC is locked into middle ground territory with Westbrook. The team won't be good enough to win a championship but not bad enough to get impact players through the draft. Clearly not a free agent destination either. OKC would be selling Westbrook at an all time high in value after this season. They would look to get young players and picks. Additionally they would bottom out and get high picks.
Drummond is a young big who seems to have had a down year compared to expectations. Pistons have a lot of money tied to him and have already floated his name around. His offense is terrible, so-so defense and great rebounder. Still 23 so room to improve. Pistons would possibly have to settle for a package of decent young players and vets (possibly a bad contract).
Favors is a decent big. Not a superstar but a serviceable big. Utah won't be able to retain Hayward, Ingles and Hill and then sign favors to a contract the following year. Would probably require an average controlled young player or vet locked into a contract.
Would you have interest in any of these players based on what it would take to trade for them?
Also, do you think there is any realistic package the Lakers could offer to trade for Wiggins. Wiggins can score with the best of them and is super athletic, but seems to not contribute anywhere else. He has a higher ceiling than our young guys but can't seem to help the Wolves win games. Would the Wolves ever consider a package around d'lo and Ingram and vets for Wiggins and vets. Would the Lakers consider this. If there is a fair deal to be made what would it be?
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Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 10:33 pm Post subject:
princeofwestwood wrote:
Besides PG being available I think Westbrook, Drummond and Favors will also be shopped this offseason.
Based on salaries OKC is locked into middle ground territory with Westbrook. The team won't be good enough to win a championship but not bad enough to get impact players through the draft. Clearly not a free agent destination either. OKC would be selling Westbrook at an all time high in value after this season. They would look to get young players and picks. Additionally they would bottom out and get high picks.
Drummond is a young big who seems to have had a down year compared to expectations. Pistons have a lot of money tied to him and have already floated his name around. His offense is terrible, so-so defense and great rebounder. Still 23 so room to improve. Pistons would possibly have to settle for a package of decent young players and vets (possibly a bad contract).
Favors is a decent big. Not a superstar but a serviceable big. Utah won't be able to retain Hayward, Ingles and Hill and then sign favors to a contract the following year. Would probably require an average controlled young player or vet locked into a contract.
Would you have interest in any of these players based on what it would take to trade for them?
Also, do you think there is any realistic package the Lakers could offer to trade for Wiggins. Wiggins can score with the best of them and is super athletic, but seems to not contribute anywhere else. He has a higher ceiling than our young guys but can't seem to help the Wolves win games. Would the Wolves ever consider a package around d'lo and Ingram and vets for Wiggins and vets. Would the Lakers consider this. If there is a fair deal to be made what would it be?
Not very interested in Favors at all. Regressed in his polish around the basket, down 10% from last year and he seems injury prone. I personally wouldn't consider a DLo and Ingram package because I don't think Wiggins contributes a lot to a team besides scoring. I'd be interested in Drummond, giving up the third pick, if we got it.
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