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epak Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 7:16 pm Post subject: |
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Not the UCLA back court I was envisioning, but I'll take it
Shot 41% from 3.
Not sure what his defense is like at age 31. |
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deal Franchise Player
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Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 7:24 pm Post subject: |
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We need to go after Hayward...he's solid; PG will follow... _________________ Lakers need to build a freaking team ! |
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epak Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 7:25 pm Post subject: |
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deal wrote: | We need to go after Hayward...he's solid. |
I think everyone would be happy with him. Haha |
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32 Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 7:29 pm Post subject: |
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Hayward is going to stay in Utah or Boston. _________________ Nobody in the NBA can touch the Laker brand, which, like the uniform color, is pure gold. |
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deal Franchise Player
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Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 7:32 pm Post subject: |
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32 wrote: | Hayward is going to stay in Utah or Boston. |
LA is where he needs to be... _________________ Lakers need to build a freaking team ! |
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yinoma2001 Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 7:37 pm Post subject: |
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deal wrote: | We need to go after Hayward...he's solid; PG will follow... |
We don't have the...cap space right now. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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deal Franchise Player
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Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 7:39 pm Post subject: |
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[quote="daygoboy6191"] 2019 wrote: | infoman2001 wrote: | I say Lakers attempt to make an offer for Hayward.
Utah made #5 seed with Hill, Hood, Hayward, Favors and Gobert, provided they had some bench depth as well.
But 2017-2018 Lakers squad could potentially look like this:
Ball, Hayward, Ingram, Randle, Lopez.
On paper that could at least be a #7 seed potentially, provided everything progresses in right direction and Ingram & Randle's game improves. Lopez is going to be much more of a contributor to this squad than Mozgov would have ever been. Lakers would essentially just need another shooter off the bench. Lakers would still need around 8-million to offer Hayward a contract, but that is where Clarkson contract comes into play.[/
Hayward and George reportedly want to play together... if you could trade for PG by sliding him in Clarkson + Randle + 27 + Black salary then sign Hayward, we'd have the start to something pretty special and still have cap space next summer if we stretched Deng... let's say for Cousins?
Cousins/Zu/Bryant
George/Nance
Ingram
Hayward/Hart
Lonzo |
Love Hayward, but George isn't going to come here to play the 4 IMO. |
Like George but what if he never makes it, go after Hayward now....figure out a lineup later... _________________ Lakers need to build a freaking team ! |
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epak Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 7:39 pm Post subject: |
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yinoma2001 wrote: | deal wrote: | We need to go after Hayward...he's solid; PG will follow... |
We don't have the...cap space right now. |
What's funny is that, Brook is easier to move than Moz right? |
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dont_be_a_wuss Franchise Player
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Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 7:43 pm Post subject: |
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shortodom wrote: | Just a question cause I don't know about the the cap space and all that, if we trade Randle and Jc for Pg can we sign Blake this offseason and sign Lebron next offseason? I know it's far fetched but money wise does it work? |
Not at full price, but maybe if Griffin was willing to take a small hair cut. Like $22-$24M. |
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deal Franchise Player
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Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 7:50 pm Post subject: |
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epak wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: | deal wrote: | We need to go after Hayward...he's solid; PG will follow... |
We don't have the...cap space right now. |
What's funny is that, Brook is easier to move than Moz right? |
True. And I hate to say it but Hayward is better by far than JC, soooo, do we trade him for a pick? Don't know but I'm sure we could clear enough to grab him, that is, IF he wanted to come. The Celtics would increase their hate level, lol... _________________ Lakers need to build a freaking team ! |
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LakerFan1972 Star Player
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Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 7:53 pm Post subject: |
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yinoma2001 wrote: | deal wrote: | We need to go after Hayward...he's solid; PG will follow... |
We don't have the...cap space right now. |
Lakers only have ~$19M in capspace this offseason. Need $30.6M for Max slot, so need to clear another $11.6M to sign Hayward.
Besides, you probably want to save some of capspace for the (unlikely) PG13 trade which probably be unbalanced with more salary coming in.
If we could, the added bonus is it would piss off Boston fans ... always a plus. |
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32 Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 8:02 pm Post subject: |
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Why are you guys talking about Hayward. He's not coming here. And besides that I'd rather have Paul George. Paul George and Hayward play the same position right? _________________ Nobody in the NBA can touch the Laker brand, which, like the uniform color, is pure gold. |
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fansincemagic Franchise Player
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Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 8:03 pm Post subject: |
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Fruscas wrote: | Well, giving the lakers are putting all their ships in 2018's summer, this is what i got for this years free agency(basically all on short term deals, 1 plus 1 or whatever):
PG's
Daren Collison
Livingston
Shelvin Mack
Wings:
CJ Miles
James Johnson
Ian Clark
Jodie Meeks
Justin Holiday
Anthony Morrow
Bigs (although there's no need really)
Dewayne Dedmon
Mike Muscala
Maybe we can go for the big fish and try to sign Blake Griffin though |
Provided this is the roster when FA starts, there are two routes to land a descent free agent SG.
As others have said, you can absorb a guy like Danny Green. Any sort of 3 and D type that would relish the showcase situation is welcome. Maybe their former team casting them off motivates them, especially a guy like Green who may have some drop off coming fron a great system to a good one in progress.
The other would be the guy not getting the deal he wanted and using the starter minutes and Lonzo hype to showcase themselves. Waiters would be ideal, but he likely gets a solid ling term deal. More likely, a guy like Justin Holiday may try to parlay the opportunity if he doesn't get a big payday. Wade on a buyout would be worth trying for but he's the big wildcard. Doubt Chicago wants to hand him to Cleveland, so I wonder if the team's can work something out. Like I wonder if they'd have room to take on Wade if they gave up Booker? Anyway, I think they end up with a guy like Danny Green and maybe Mack as a neutral backup PG to help along with Lonzo. |
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32 Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 8:03 pm Post subject: |
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I doubt we will even get a meeting with Hayward. Rumors are he's interested in Utah Boston and Miami. _________________ Nobody in the NBA can touch the Laker brand, which, like the uniform color, is pure gold. |
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DocK36 Franchise Player
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Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 8:04 pm Post subject: |
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LakerFan1972 wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: | deal wrote: | We need to go after Hayward...he's solid; PG will follow... |
We don't have the...cap space right now. |
Lakers only have ~$19M in capspace this offseason. Need $30.6M for Max slot, so need to clear another $11.6M to sign Hayward.
Besides, you probably want to save some of capspace for the (unlikely) PG13 trade which probably be unbalanced with more salary coming in.
If we could, the added bonus is it would piss off Boston fans ... always a plus. | Like I mentioned before, maybe try a sign and trade with Utah if it's obvious Hayward will just bolt to Boston, leaving Utah with nothing, Randle or Clarkson, maybe throw in one of this year's rookies, a future pick, some fillers to make the numbers work. _________________ Ringo "You retired too?"
Doc "Not me, I'm in my prime." |
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pio2u Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 8:16 pm Post subject: |
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Chris Paul To Opt Out Of Contract
Quote: | A tweet from ESPN’s Marc Spears says that, while Paul is expected to opt out, he hasn’t formally told the team or filed with the league at this point.
5:20pm: The Clippers have been informed that All-Star guard Chris Paul will decline his player option for 2017/18, Brad Turner of the LA Times tweets. |
https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2017/06/chris-paul-opts-out-of-contract.html |
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Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 8:31 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | Serena Winters: Magic on any potential deals: “Of course we’ll look to improve the team in any way that we can but we’re not close to anything right now.” 5 hours ago – via Twitter SerenaWinters
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Quote: | Mike Bresnahan: Slight adjustment on Nwaba contract. Because it’s a team option, not player, Lakers have until next Thursday to decide on him. 4 hours ago – via Twitter Mike_Bresnahan |
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LakerFan1972 Star Player
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Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 10:07 pm Post subject: |
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32 wrote: | I doubt we will even get a meeting with Hayward. Rumors are he's interested in Utah Boston and Miami. |
Probably right though I think Mark Bartelstein is his agent who also reps Nick Young. Pelinka should at least get a meeting. It would at least be good practice for Magic/Pelinka.
Hayward probably going to stay in Utah. He has built something really good with that team. Hayward maybe just using other teams to assure Utah gives him max. If Hayward is serious in moving, why not LA. We also could offer Utah some compensation by trading them JC. We need to move his salary anyway.
Boston are going after PG13. Let's go after their FA target. Besides, a Hayward sign and trade would likely cost Lakers less compensation than the PG13 trade. If Hayward is goint to leave Utah, Jazz would be incentivized to get something back.
Hayward and PG13 are both only 27. Both great 2-way players. Fit great in Luke's system .... imagine Hayward/PG13/BI/Ball together. |
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Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 11:28 pm Post subject: |
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My predictions...
Kevin Durant - Warriors
Steph Curry - Warriors
Gordon Hayward - Jazz
Blake Griffin - Miami or Houston
Chris Paul - Clippers
Kyle Lowry - San Antonio
Paul Millsap - Miami or Boston
Jrue Holiday - Denver or New Orleans or Indiana
Danilo Gallinari - Indiana
Serge Ibaka - Toronto
Pau Gasol - Golden State
George Hill - Minnesota
Jeff Teague - Denver or New York
Nerlens Noel - Dallas or Chicago
JJ Redick - Philadelphia _________________ LakersGround's Terms of Service
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Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 11:29 pm Post subject: |
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^ and paul george? _________________ Kobe |
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vanexelent Retired Number
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LakerSanity wrote: | My predictions...
Kevin Durant - Warriors
Steph Curry - Warriors
Gordon Hayward - Jazz
Blake Griffin - Miami or Houston
Chris Paul - Clippers
Kyle Lowry - San Antonio
Paul Millsap - Miami or Boston
Jrue Holiday - Denver or New Orleans or Indiana
Danilo Gallinari - Indiana
Serge Ibaka - Toronto
Pau Gasol - Golden State
George Hill - Minnesota
Jeff Teague - Denver or New York
Nerlens Noel - Dallas or Chicago
JJ Redick - Philadelphia |
Seems about right. Gasol to GSW though? Interesting. What cap space do they have to offer him? If Spurs trade Aldridge, then Gasol would be needed. |
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Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2017 5:20 am Post subject: |
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deal wrote: | epak wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: | deal wrote: | We need to go after Hayward...he's solid; PG will follow... |
We don't have the...cap space right now. |
What's funny is that, Brook is easier to move than Moz right? |
True. And I hate to say it but Hayward is better by far than JC, soooo, do we trade him for a pick? Don't know but I'm sure we could clear enough to grab him, that is, IF he wanted to come. The Celtics would increase their hate level, lol... |
No max even with stretching Deng now? |
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Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2017 5:23 am Post subject: |
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vanexelent wrote: | LakerSanity wrote: | My predictions...
Kevin Durant - Warriors
Steph Curry - Warriors
Gordon Hayward - Jazz
Blake Griffin - Miami or Houston
Chris Paul - Clippers
Kyle Lowry - San Antonio
Paul Millsap - Miami or Boston
Jrue Holiday - Denver or New Orleans or Indiana
Danilo Gallinari - Indiana
Serge Ibaka - Toronto
Pau Gasol - Golden State
George Hill - Minnesota
Jeff Teague - Denver or New York
Nerlens Noel - Dallas or Chicago
JJ Redick - Philadelphia |
Seems about right. Gasol to GSW though? Interesting. What cap space do they have to offer him? If Spurs trade Aldridge, then Gasol would be needed. |
McGee --> 3 dropping Pau
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Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2017 5:35 am Post subject: |
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LakerSanity wrote: | My predictions...
Kevin Durant - Warriors
Steph Curry - Warriors
Gordon Hayward - Jazz
Blake Griffin - Miami or Houston
Chris Paul - Clippers
Kyle Lowry - San Antonio
Paul Millsap - Miami or Boston
Jrue Holiday - Denver or New Orleans or Indiana
Danilo Gallinari - Indiana
Serge Ibaka - Toronto
Pau Gasol - Golden State
George Hill - Minnesota
Jeff Teague - Denver or New York
Nerlens Noel - Dallas or Chicago
JJ Redick - Philadelphia |
What about Griffin going home to the Thunder. It's crazy to me how they never added anything but young pieces to Durant and Westbrook. If the Lakers drafted Durant, Westbrook & Harden we'd have three more championships by now and those guys would still be together. |
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Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2017 5:43 am Post subject: |
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Read somewhere that Hayward is waiting to see if Utah re-signs George Hill. If they do, Hayward probably stays.
Also, if Chris Paul stays with the Clippers, I don't see why Griffin bolts to somewhere like Miami. Playing with CP3 has to be more optimal for him than playing with Dragic, unless CP3 is more overbearing than everyone thinks.
Only way Griffin leaves is if the Clips lowball him, and I don't see Ballmer doing that. _________________ #32 is the greatest Laker ever.
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