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tox
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| JeezyXVII wrote: | | governator wrote: | | laker50 wrote: | The Lakers have to fill a position of need which is SG.
There is not a NBA starter type there on the roster.
Josh Hart is a possibility but playing two rookies won't work.
There is a guy that will fill that hole. Nick Young. Give him a 2 to 3 year contract at 5.5M/ year. Well worth the money.
If you gave Mosgov 17M for 4 years, Deng 18M for 4 years, and
Clarkson 13M/ for 4 years you can give Young that.
He was a starter and contributed in a loosing cause.
That Mosgov/Deng deal was surely a firing offense. |
JC/Brewer for D.Wade/2nd rd pick... works for both teams |
Whats peoples obsession with trading for a 36yo SG who's is looking for paychecks ?! |
dumping Deng for his expiring contract |
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JeezyXVII
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Waiters cause of the Rob connection
Reddick's but asking price is too much for us IMO
Swaggy P for the right price
George Hill
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Korver
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JeezyXVII
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| tox wrote: | | JeezyXVII wrote: | | governator wrote: | | laker50 wrote: | The Lakers have to fill a position of need which is SG.
There is not a NBA starter type there on the roster.
Josh Hart is a possibility but playing two rookies won't work.
There is a guy that will fill that hole. Nick Young. Give him a 2 to 3 year contract at 5.5M/ year. Well worth the money.
If you gave Mosgov 17M for 4 years, Deng 18M for 4 years, and
Clarkson 13M/ for 4 years you can give Young that.
He was a starter and contributed in a loosing cause.
That Mosgov/Deng deal was surely a firing offense. |
JC/Brewer for D.Wade/2nd rd pick... works for both teams |
Whats peoples obsession with trading for a 36yo SG who's is looking for paychecks ?! |
dumping Deng for his expiring contract |
That I would welcome lol |
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Four Decade Bandwagon
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| deal wrote: | | Four Decade Bandwagon wrote: | | Mini Mamba wrote: | | Chase.button07 wrote: | somehow bulls fan still like Deng and might take him for an unprotected pick.
deng/pick for wade |
Their front office is so inept they might actually take that deal |
If they are rebuilding and starting fresh and the Lakers are serious about clearing cap....
Deng, Clarkson, Black, CHI 2019 2nd rd pick back for Wade and Rondo.
$36M cleared next year. And Lopez's $22M. |
I'll pass on Rondo every day and twice on Saturdays |
I agree wholeheartedly with you except for the salary issue. The fascination of clearing Dengs contract and the possibility of creating 2018 max money is the only reason I suggested it.
Chicago has to have a reason to take the Deng contract. Dumping the distraction of Wade and Rondo for a couple young players might be enough for them. |
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Ziggy
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| Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2017 3:17 pm Post subject: |
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| Four Decade Bandwagon wrote: | | deal wrote: | | Four Decade Bandwagon wrote: | | Mini Mamba wrote: | | Chase.button07 wrote: | somehow bulls fan still like Deng and might take him for an unprotected pick.
deng/pick for wade |
Their front office is so inept they might actually take that deal |
If they are rebuilding and starting fresh and the Lakers are serious about clearing cap....
Deng, Clarkson, Black, CHI 2019 2nd rd pick back for Wade and Rondo.
$36M cleared next year. And Lopez's $22M. |
I'll pass on Rondo every day and twice on Saturdays |
I agree wholeheartedly with you except for the salary issue. The fascination of clearing Dengs contract and the possibility of creating 2018 max money is the only reason I suggested it.
Chicago has to have a reason to take the Deng contract. Dumping the distraction of Wade and Rondo for a couple young players might be enough for them. |
So I ran it through the trade checker and it actually works.
Rondo/Wade for JC/Deng/Black |
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I would do that trade (assuming the pg13 ship has sailed this season).
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With our glut at PF (Randle, Nance, Kuzma, Deng) and deficiency in the backcourt, I think it's very likely that the Lakers are going to attempt to trade one of the PF's for a guard. In particular, I think either Randle or Nance will be shipped out. I think most would like for it to be Randle, but with his contract situation, he probably has extremely low trade value. That puts Nance on the hot seat 
I would hate, HATE to see it done, but it actually makes some sense in terms of filling out the roster. With that said, what sort of guard could we get in exchange for a Clarkson+Nance package? |
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LakerLogic
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Trade Deng plus Zubac to Bulls for Wade.
Deng, Clarkson, future 1st for Rondo and Wade. Cut Rondo. |
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JeezyXVII
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| LakerLogic wrote: | Trade Deng plus Zubac to Bulls for Wade.
Deng, Clarkson, future 1st for Rondo and Wade. Cut Rondo. |
Larry Nance would not like his son being traded.
Plug JC or TBryant instead of Zubac |
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DoubleClutch
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| Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2017 3:54 pm Post subject: |
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| JeezyXVII wrote: |
Waiters cause of the Rob connection
Reddick's but asking price is too much for us IMO
Swaggy P for the right price
George Hill
CJ Miles
Korver
KCP (RFA)
Ben McLemore (RFA)
Tony Snell (RFA) |
Afflalo
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LakerLogic
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| Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2017 4:01 pm Post subject: |
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| JeezyXVII wrote: | | LakerLogic wrote: | Trade Deng plus Zubac to Bulls for Wade.
Deng, Clarkson, future 1st for Rondo and Wade. Cut Rondo. |
Larry Nance would not like his son being traded.
Plug JC or TBryant instead of Zubac |
I think when a franchise like the Bulls make that bad of a trade, you gotta pounce on their ineptitude. |
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LakerLogic
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| Bulls have Jerian Grant, Rondo, MCW, Dunn, Canaan, and Payne. I don't know what the hell they are doing. |
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| JeezyXVII wrote: | | tox wrote: | | JeezyXVII wrote: | | governator wrote: | | laker50 wrote: | The Lakers have to fill a position of need which is SG.
There is not a NBA starter type there on the roster.
Josh Hart is a possibility but playing two rookies won't work.
There is a guy that will fill that hole. Nick Young. Give him a 2 to 3 year contract at 5.5M/ year. Well worth the money.
If you gave Mosgov 17M for 4 years, Deng 18M for 4 years, and
Clarkson 13M/ for 4 years you can give Young that.
He was a starter and contributed in a loosing cause.
That Mosgov/Deng deal was surely a firing offense. |
JC/Brewer for D.Wade/2nd rd pick... works for both teams |
Whats peoples obsession with trading for a 36yo SG who's is looking for paychecks ?! |
dumping Deng for his expiring contract |
That I would welcome lol |
yeah, Wade is $24mil expiring |
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| George hill had a great year |
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Four Decade Bandwagon
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| textbook wrote: | | George hill had a great year |
He did. As did Lowry, Teague and Holiday. But none likely to be signed if the FO has a "2018 FA is sacred" mentality.
Sign one of them, reasonable trade for George and this Laker team is a playoff team this year. And it still works if the George trade does not work out and they just hold on to the cap for next summer. |
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panamaniac
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| Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2017 4:42 pm Post subject: |
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| JeezyXVII wrote: |
Waiters cause of the Rob connection
Reddick's but asking price is too much for us IMO
Swaggy P for the right price
George Hill
CJ Miles
Korver
KCP (RFA)
Ben McLemore (RFA)
Tony Snell (RFA) |
I'd like to take a flyer on Ben McLemore. Wonder if he could be had for under 10M. |
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KindCrippler2000
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| I wonder if they'll consider Afflalo as a stopgap 2. Not too crazy about him since he's 31, but he sure as hell defends better than any guard on the roster right now. I'd give him the starting nod over Clarkson. Wouldn't mind seeing him on a 1 year deal. |
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| DoubleClutch wrote: | | JeezyXVII wrote: |
Waiters cause of the Rob connection
Reddick's but asking price is too much for us IMO
Swaggy P for the right price
George Hill
CJ Miles
Korver
KCP (RFA)
Ben McLemore (RFA)
Tony Snell (RFA) |
Afflalo |
If looking at RFAs, what about Jonathon Simmons from the Spurs?
He was impressive when Leonard went down. His season stats do not reflect his impact. If the Spurs start playing around in free agency it might be possible to snare he or Green. I do think Green has a player option his second year that might be preferred.
Although it would mean multiple years instead of the one year most are assuming the FO is most likely to be interested in. |
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| KindCrippler2000 wrote: | | I wonder if they'll consider Afflalo as a stopgap 2. Not too crazy about him since he's 31, but he sure as hell defends better than any guard on the roster right now. I'd give him the starting nod over Clarkson. Wouldn't mind seeing him on a 1 year deal. |
He's become so bad as his defense has regressed and he still falls in love with his Kobe routine on offense. I guess beggars can't be choosers, but I'd rather go after a PG like Collison and just have Ball defend SGs for a season. |
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Baron Von Humongous
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| Four Decade Bandwagon wrote: | | DoubleClutch wrote: | | JeezyXVII wrote: |
Waiters cause of the Rob connection
Reddick's but asking price is too much for us IMO
Swaggy P for the right price
George Hill
CJ Miles
Korver
KCP (RFA)
Ben McLemore (RFA)
Tony Snell (RFA) |
Afflalo |
If looking at RFAs, what about Jonathon Simmons from the Spurs?
He was impressive when Leonard went down. His season stats do not reflect his impact. If the Spurs start playing around in free agency it might be possible to snare he or Green. I do think Green has a player option his second year that might be preferred.
Although it would mean multiple years instead of the one year most are assuming the FO is most likely to be interested in. |
Some team is going to push his price north of eight figures, which the Lakers can't really match if they plan to sign Lebron and George next summer. |
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I think it's really irresponsible for ppl to assume* they knew exactly what was going on with dlo
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We've dealt with Houston a few times in recent years, and that includes both regimes. I wonder (and hope!) we have the inside track on absorbing Beverley should they get close to signing either Blake, CP3, or whoever and need to open up cap space fast. I'm rooting for you, Morey...
Beverley really is the perfect addition in the back court for us this summer, considering who's available and the limitation on cap space we have beyond this year. A hard worker/hustler, floor-spacer, tone-setter on the defensive end, and someone that can play off Lonzo (and stand up for him if anybody tries to pull any shenanigans...) - he'd be an awesome addition. |
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Chase.button07
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| TheBlackMamba wrote: | We've dealt with Houston a few times in recent years, and that includes both regimes. I wonder (and hope!) we have the inside track on absorbing Beverley should they get close to signing either Blake, CP3, or whoever and need to open up cap space fast. I'm rooting for you, Morey...
Beverley really is the perfect addition in the back court for us this summer, considering who's available and the limitation on cap space we have beyond this year. A hard worker/hustler, floor-spacer, tone-setter on the defensive end, and someone that can play off Lonzo (and stand up for him if anybody tries to pull any shenanigans...) - he'd be an awesome addition. |
yupe. they can dump all of Pat Bev, Ariza, Lou Williams to us
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Hopefully they will bring in some inexpensive vets this summer, our young players need some leadership.
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