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| JonnyZero wrote: | | ChickenStu wrote: | | Sentient Meat wrote: | | Big Shot Bob wrote: | For what it's worth, this trade should work capwise...
Cavs Trade: Kyrie Irving, Iman Shumpert, Channing Frye
Cavs Get: Eric Bledsoe, Carmelo Anthony
Suns Trade: Eric Bledsoe
Suns Get: Frank Ntilikina, Iman Shumpert
Knicks Trade: Frank Ntilikina, Carmelo Anthony
Knicks Get: Kyrie Irving, Channing Frye |
This seems a very well crafted and realistic trade scenario. If you thought of this yourself... Props to you. |
Yes, this is basically what Schultz was suggesting is being discussed. |
Dunno if the Suns would do that. I could see NY/CLE going for it though. |
I don't know about that. Think of it this way... suns are getting a top 8 pico for Bledsoe. No way they could have got that kind of return for him before the draft.
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| Quote: | | ESPN Cleveland: Windy: If Kyrie had told the Cavs this in mid-June, they probably could have traded for Chris Paul and traded Kevin Love for Paul George |
That would have been horrible. Would have reloaded the Clippers perfectly and you have to figure CP3, LeBron and George would think seriously about staying together.
Nice work Kyrie 
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| It would be idiotic to gut the roster for LBJ, same deal with PG. If he wants to come here..it'll happen next summer. |
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| ringfinger wrote: | | If we trade for LBJ, which is unlikely, it'll involve moving BI. Which would be the player that makes the most sense to move anyway IF we were trading for LbJ. |
I wouldn't trade Ingram for Lebron...
Next season we could have a fast positionless lineup like this... use Zubac or Lopez against a slow team with a big center.
Kuzma
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| ringfinger wrote: | | If we trade for LBJ, which is unlikely, it'll involve moving BI. Which would be the player that makes the most sense to move anyway IF we were trading for LbJ. |
I don't think so. I think Magic/Pelinka would employ the same strategy as with PG13 and hold firm on not including Ingram (or Ball, but that goes without saying). Lebron has a no-trade clause too, so if he requests LA through back channels, Cavs either take whatever we offer or risk him walking next summer for nothing. Dan Gilbert would much rather Lebron walk next summer rather than trading him just to win the PR points. Then he can play victim again. |
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| Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2017 3:56 pm Post subject: |
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lol at the sad millionaires playing a game in short pants |
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| Quote: | Skip BaylessVerified account @RealSkipBayless 2m2 minutes ago
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Can't blame Kyrie for finally deciding he's had enough of deferring to/dealing with LeBron, on and off the court. The King is a Drama King. |
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| Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2017 4:06 pm Post subject: |
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| Laker's Fan wrote: | | Quote: | | ESPN Cleveland: Windy: If Kyrie had told the Cavs this in mid-June, they probably could have traded for Chris Paul and traded Kevin Love for Paul George |
That would have been horrible. Would have reloaded the Clippers perfectly and you have to figure CP3, LeBron and George would think seriously about staying together.
Nice work Kyrie |
Except they try to trade love for George and they were rejected.
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| Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2017 4:07 pm Post subject: |
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| 3 hours talking with Rose. Must've been the most boring three hours ever. |
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| LakerSanity wrote: | | Laker's Fan wrote: | | Quote: | | ESPN Cleveland: Windy: If Kyrie had told the Cavs this in mid-June, they probably could have traded for Chris Paul and traded Kevin Love for Paul George |
That would have been horrible. Would have reloaded the Clippers perfectly and you have to figure CP3, LeBron and George would think seriously about staying together.
Nice work Kyrie |
Except they try to trade love for George and they were rejected. |
Except Indiana has no interest in Love |
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| Vin wrote: | | 3 hours talking with Rose. Must've been the most boring three hours ever. |
With Kyrie wanting out, Cleveland needs Rose to START!
The King needs to recruit a new court.
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| ChickenStu wrote: | | Woj just said on ESPN that more than not wanting to play with LeBron, he's focused on the idea that LeBron just might not be there next season. And adds that the team is constructed to complement LeBron, not Kyrie. And he doesn't want to get stuck with that and thinks it would be a detriment to his career. |
That happened to Kobe
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| LakerLanny wrote: | | Vin wrote: | | 3 hours talking with Rose. Must've been the most boring three hours ever. |
With Kyrie wanting out, Cleveland needs Rose to START!
The King needs to recruit a new court. |
King says, (bleep) all of you, I trade myself to the spurs or the rockets for a bag of peanuts and get my 4th ring so kyrie can choke on it |
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Miami would be a great situation for Kyrie.
Anywhere would be really because he is a flat out stud.
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Laker Fans need to listen to Lavar... "Stay In Yo Lane". We need to stop salivating about the potential talent out there and what we need to do to get it. Stick with the plan, Trust Magic & Pelinka, play well, get wins, then shake the tree in 2018. Even then you don't gut the team, If these guys are "free agents", then lets get them for "free".
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We are following lamelo now??? |
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| NewpLakersFan wrote: | This is the Batman story I didn't know I wanted.
Lebron: You need to ask to be traded and blame it on me.
Kyrie: They'll hate you for it
Lebron: You're the hero they deserve not the one they need, so they'll hate me because I can take it.
Carmelo: You either retire a hero, or play long enough to be traded to the Knicks
Someone hire me.
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| Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2017 4:14 pm Post subject: |
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| Laker's Fan wrote: | | Quote: | | ESPN Cleveland: Windy: If Kyrie had told the Cavs this in mid-June, they probably could have traded for Chris Paul and traded Kevin Love for Paul George |
That would have been horrible. Would have reloaded the Clippers perfectly and you have to figure CP3, LeBron and George would think seriously about staying together.
Nice work Kyrie |
Cleveland tried to get PG but couldn't find a 3rd team to take Love since Indiana didn't want him. So don't think this was magically going to happen. |
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would have enjoyed it better if it came back to kyrie saying: "i agree" |
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| epak wrote: |
would have enjoyed it better if it came back to kyrie saying: "i agree" |
Oh it would have, if LeBron had ended it with something Kyrie agreed with 
I kid, I kid 
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If in Cleveland's scenario.. I'd be trying to make this three team trade happen.
Cavaliers Get:
Carmelo Anthony
Chris Paul
Rockets Get:
Kyrie Irving
Knicks Get:
Kevin Love
then a secondary trade
Cavaliers Get:
Trevor Ariza
Rockets Get:
Iman Shumpert
Something akin to that would probably be in the Cavs' best interest.
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| Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2017 4:41 pm Post subject: |
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| I really want to see the banana boat team minus CP3 in Cleveland. They will fail miserably. |
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| Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2017 4:44 pm Post subject: |
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| MJST wrote: | If in Cleveland's scenario.. I'd be trying to make this three team trade happen.
Cavaliers Get:
Carmelo Anthony
Chris Paul
Rockets Get:
Kyrie Irving
Knicks Get:
Kevin Love
then a secondary trade
Cavaliers Get:
Trevor Ariza
Rockets Get:
Iman Shumpert
Something akin to that would probably be in the Cavs' best interest. |
I suppose it's technically possible that CP3 could be traded again since he opted in and was traded (he didn't technically sign with Houston), but it would be amazingly shocking if Morey would be willing to just flip CP3 this quickly. That said, I can see an argument for the Rockets being better off long-term with Kyrie, and with the Cavs being better off short-term with CP3 and Carmelo to try to give LeBron one more run in Cleveland. But I don't think the Knicks make a lot of sense for Love, with Porzingis in tow. But what if Love were routed to the Suns (they reportedly have had interest in him), with Bledsoe ending up with the Knicks? The Knicks need a point guard (that can start now; Ntilikina is not yet ready for a major role), and the Knicks could probably also pick up another player from the Suns here (maybe someone like Warren or even Bender).
This would also mean that the Cavs could lose all of their major assets for nothing next summer, which would be pretty awesome.
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