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RobinInHood
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| Hero Ball wrote: | | FreakofNature wrote: | | Bron is 32, Will be 33 at the end of December.... |
So he will join us at age 33.
At age 33, Jordan started his second threepeat.  |
He also has ALOT more mileage on his legs than Jordan did at 33. |
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Fastbreak32
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| SectorSevenG wrote: | | Hero Ball wrote: | | FreakofNature wrote: | | Bron is 32, Will be 33 at the end of December.... |
So he will join us at age 33.
At age 33, Jordan started his second threepeat. |
He also has ALOT more mileage on his legs than Jordan did at 33. |
Lebron also paces himself for much of the regular season.
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| Icaruz wrote: | | True Lakers Fan wrote: | I finally get the LeBron hate on here
It all stems from Kobe. You guys are more concern with LeBron being better than Kobe (Pssstttt, he already has, and that's okay. It's not the end of the world) and for the fact that he can potentially pass Kobe in rings. By indirectly defending Kobe, you make some outrageous claims like "LeBron isn't a pass first player" do you know how ridiculous that sounds? I guess LeBron is getting his assists by some voodoo magic, right?
What I suggest you guys do, is realize that Kobe Bryant is not be all end all when it comes to the NBA. There will be players that will be better than him, like LeBron James. Go outside, read a book, do something besides idolizing a basketball player to the point that hinders you from evolving as a basketball fan. LeBron is a tremendous fit for this team. This enjoy something for once, you might find it better for your life. |
I think you are generalizing. I am mix about having LeBron here. Not because he would pass Kobe, that's not important. But LeBron is drama. If he signs here its going to be a 1+1 like Durant. He would then demand that his friends be signed. He (Rich Paul) will demand Max for KCP. In Cleveland, he got the owner to fork over big contracts for Tristan Thompson, JR Smith and Iman Shumpert (Thompson and Smith agent is Rich Paul). He is going to do the same in LA. He is going to put us in cap hell, then when he thinks that he reach the end of the road with LA, he will just pack up and leave. We would be stuck with what we did to please him so that he comes here in the first place.
For me that's why i am mix on him...plus he will 34 the year we sign him. Kobe was like 34-35 when he torn the ACL? So one bad injury and LBJ is no longer LBJ and we would be back to stone age |
Just like I'm generalizing (which I may to some extent, but I know how some Laker fan are) I think you are assuming too. You can't see the future and go inside the brain of someone to see what they are going to do or not
And yes, your last paragraph is a concern, but Kobe was a different breed when it came to basketball, he ran himself into the ground, which resulted in tearing Achilles.(and I thank him for his dedication to the game) LeBron seems like he paces himself well when it comes to that and take care of his body more than Kobe. That is one of the reasons why him coming here might help with his longevity, playing next to BI and Lonzo.
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| SectorSevenG wrote: | | Hero Ball wrote: | | FreakofNature wrote: | | Bron is 32, Will be 33 at the end of December.... |
So he will join us at age 33.
At age 33, Jordan started his second threepeat. |
He also has ALOT more mileage on his legs than Jordan did at 33. |
Well his legs are a lot thicker.
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If LBJ comes and we get 2-3 rings out of the deal, I don't care if we sign his mother to a max deal.
THIS IS ABOUT PASSING THE DAMNED CELTICS, PEOPLE!
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True Lakers Fan
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| eagles nut wrote: | http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/20127818/nba-weeks-dysfunction-surrounding-kyrie-irving-trade-demand
Wait, Dan Gilbert thought he and the Cavs had a trade agreed to and then the other side backed out? Don't you feel sorry for him? |
It's part of the game unfortunately
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| The lakers with Elgin/West/Wilt/Magic/Kareem/Shaq and Kobe have had 7 of the 15 best to lace them up. With Bron that will be 8 of 15.... |
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eagles nut
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| True Lakers Fan wrote: | | eagles nut wrote: | http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/20127818/nba-weeks-dysfunction-surrounding-kyrie-irving-trade-demand
Wait, Dan Gilbert thought he and the Cavs had a trade agreed to and then the other side backed out? Don't you feel sorry for him? |
It's part of the game unfortunately |
Yes, it is part of the game. But at least his agreed to trade wasn't scuttled because a cabal of jackass owners cried about it to David Stern. |
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Rek
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| eagles nut wrote: | | True Lakers Fan wrote: | | eagles nut wrote: | http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/20127818/nba-weeks-dysfunction-surrounding-kyrie-irving-trade-demand
Wait, Dan Gilbert thought he and the Cavs had a trade agreed to and then the other side backed out? Don't you feel sorry for him? |
It's part of the game unfortunately |
Yes, it is part of the game. But at least his agreed to trade wasn't scuttled because a cabal of jackass owners cried about it to David Stern. |
I prefer to believe that Pritchard sent Gilbert a text with only two words...
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| FreakofNature wrote: | | The lakers with Elgin/West/Wilt/Magic/Kareem/Shaq and Kobe have had 7 of the 15 best to lace them up. With Bron that will be 8 of 15.... |
Uh. Where would you rank Elgin and West and what is your top 15?
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eagles nut
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| Rek wrote: | | eagles nut wrote: | | True Lakers Fan wrote: | | eagles nut wrote: | http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/20127818/nba-weeks-dysfunction-surrounding-kyrie-irving-trade-demand
Wait, Dan Gilbert thought he and the Cavs had a trade agreed to and then the other side backed out? Don't you feel sorry for him? |
It's part of the game unfortunately |
Yes, it is part of the game. But at least his agreed to trade wasn't scuttled because a cabal of jackass owners cried about it to David Stern. |
I prefer to believe that Pritchard sent Gilbert a text with only two words...
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I love the game of basketball and then I love the Lakers, not the other away around. |
Congratulations! |
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FreakofNature
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| 32 wrote: | | FreakofNature wrote: | | The lakers with Elgin/West/Wilt/Magic/Kareem/Shaq and Kobe have had 7 of the 15 best to lace them up. With Bron that will be 8 of 15.... |
Uh. Where would you rank Elgin and West and what is your top 15? |
No specific order within the tiers....
Tier 1
Kareem
MJ
Magic
Kobe
Tier 2
Oscar
Shaq
Wilt
Bron
Hakeem
Bird
Russell
Tier 3
K. Malone * Not a laker long enough to be considered...
Baylor
Duncan
West |
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And so on July 7, the kid who used to spend hours studying YouTube videos and perfecting his 1-on-1 moves in the driveway of his New Jersey home, walked into a planned sit-down with Cavs owner Dan Gilbert and asked to be traded. Then he told him he preferred it to be to one of four teams: the Minnesota Timberwolves, San Antonio Spurs, Miami Heat or New York Knicks.
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| JUST-MING wrote: | | Cochese wrote: | I haven't heard anything serious about the Lakers and Kyrie...but its fun to talk about.
He's only 25 and averaged 25/3/6 on 47/40/91 shooting...thats pretty damn good. Furthermore his contract is reasonable by today's standards:
2017-18: 18.9 million
2018-19: 20.1 million
2019-20: 21.3 million (player option)
Trading for him would be cheaper than signing one of the big name free agents next summer.
That being said, I dunno where he'd play, how he'd fit, or what we'd have to give up. Its summer so all we have to do is speculate. |
I wouldn't mind trading for Kyrie Irving then signing Paul George next summer. Lonzo leads the second unit. |
I can't foresee any situation where Magic would make a move that puts Lonzo on the bench. If Kyrie did come here, it would present a conundrum indeed. Do you start him at 2? Then get ready to have a bad defensive backcourt. Start him at 1? Then you're sending your new face of the franchise and possibly a better prospect than Kyrie to the bench. |
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| FreakofNature wrote: | | 32 wrote: | | FreakofNature wrote: | | The lakers with Elgin/West/Wilt/Magic/Kareem/Shaq and Kobe have had 7 of the 15 best to lace them up. With Bron that will be 8 of 15.... |
Uh. Where would you rank Elgin and West and what is your top 15? |
No specific order within the tiers....
Tier 1
Kareem
MJ
Magic
Kobe
Tier 2
Oscar
Shaq
Wilt
Bron
Hakeem
Bird
Russell
Tier 3
K. Malone * Not a laker long enough to be considered...
Baylor
Duncan
West |
Not bad. I have Wilt and Lebron in Tier 1.
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If u was Gilbert keep Kyrie and trade Lebron to the lakers.
Deng Randle and clarkson with the 2019 pick should get it done |
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| 32 wrote: | | FreakofNature wrote: | | 32 wrote: | | FreakofNature wrote: | | The lakers with Elgin/West/Wilt/Magic/Kareem/Shaq and Kobe have had 7 of the 15 best to lace them up. With Bron that will be 8 of 15.... |
Uh. Where would you rank Elgin and West and what is your top 15? |
No specific order within the tiers....
Tier 1
Kareem
MJ
Magic
Kobe
Tier 2
Oscar
Shaq
Wilt
Bron
Hakeem
Bird
Russell
Tier 3
K. Malone * Not a laker long enough to be considered...
Baylor
Duncan
West |
Not bad. I have Wilt and Lebron in Tier 1. |
Agree. And I'd have Duncan in tier 2 (maybe tier 1). Duncan's and Kobe's resumes are very comparable. |
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| 999 wrote: | If u was Gilbert keep Kyrie and trade Lebron to the lakers.
Deng Randle and clarkson with the 2019 pick should get it done |
The only pick we can trade is the 2020
No need to trade for LeBron though
Windhorst said that Bron wants to play this season in Cleveland and go from there.
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I just cant´t believe people not wanting Lebron here.
I mean, really?
Can you guys think for a second what that would mean for the Lakers organization after all these years of free agency disasters? What that would mean for the present and the future?, this would be the Lakers being again the Lakers we miss. |
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"He wanted to be the centerpiece of a team, as he thought he was going to be three years ago when he signed a five-year extension 11 days before James decided to come home."
Kyrie Doesn't play D and is not a transcendent shooter like steph, yet wants to have his own team.
I really hope we don't get rid of lonzo or BI who the jury is still out on when it comes to how good they can become, for a guy who WE KNOW is not a good defender, essentially a cp3 type in a league who's current champion does not have a ball stopping point guard.
yes, we need stars to attract stars but I want stars that could be convinced to play off ball if needed to, which pretty much excludes all point guards except steph.
We basically can't get "star point guards" in our quest for "stars".
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And so on July 7, the kid who used to spend hours studying YouTube videos and perfecting his 1-on-1 moves in the driveway of his New Jersey home, walked into a planned sit-down with Cavs owner Dan Gilbert and asked to be traded. Then he told him he preferred it to be to one of four teams: the Minnesota Timberwolves, San Antonio Spurs, Miami Heat or New York Knicks.
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Kyrie is awesome but wanting to leave LeBron to go to the Knicks doesn't look great.
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| This season will define our future. If the entire team are doing great, making significant progress, then stars will come eventually. So I hope front office don't make huge move to affect the team, just take care of them and make sure they are on the track. |
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| SOLakerFan wrote: | | 32 wrote: | | FreakofNature wrote: | | 32 wrote: | | FreakofNature wrote: | | The lakers with Elgin/West/Wilt/Magic/Kareem/Shaq and Kobe have had 7 of the 15 best to lace them up. With Bron that will be 8 of 15.... |
Uh. Where would you rank Elgin and West and what is your top 15? |
No specific order within the tiers....
Tier 1
Kareem
MJ
Magic
Kobe
Tier 2
Oscar
Shaq
Wilt
Bron
Hakeem
Bird
Russell
Tier 3
K. Malone * Not a laker long enough to be considered...
Baylor
Duncan
West |
Not bad. I have Wilt and Lebron in Tier 1. |
Agree. And I'd have Duncan in tier 2 (maybe tier 1). Duncan's and Kobe's resumes are very comparable. |
Cmon guys. Its the FA thread! |
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