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| Golden_Emperor_24K wrote: | | http://www.csnphilly.com/philadelphia-76ers/report-jahlil-okafor-will-get-moved-thursday okafor to be moved thurs? hopefully not to us lol..indiana is interested. but aren't al jefferson and okafor the same type of players? |
Three way trade lol
Lakers Get
Paul George
76ers Get
Jordan Clarkson
Jose Calderon
Pacers 1st Round Pick
Pacers Get
Jahlil Okafor
Nick Young
Lakers HOU pick
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| MJST wrote: | | Golden_Emperor_24K wrote: | | http://www.csnphilly.com/philadelphia-76ers/report-jahlil-okafor-will-get-moved-thursday okafor to be moved thurs? hopefully not to us lol..indiana is interested. but aren't al jefferson and okafor the same type of players? |
Three way trade lol
Lakers Get
Paul George
76ers Get
Jordan Clarkson
Jose Calderon
Pacers 1st Round Pick
Pacers Get
Jahlil Okafor
Nick Young
Lakers HOU pick
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JC+Calderon+Hou 1st for PG13... Pelinka is da man |
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ch3cky0selff00
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| Yeah.. except.. Indiana is interested in Jahlil Okafor because they're looking at help FOR Paul George lol. |
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ch3cky0selff00
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| governator wrote: | | MJST wrote: | | Golden_Emperor_24K wrote: | | http://www.csnphilly.com/philadelphia-76ers/report-jahlil-okafor-will-get-moved-thursday okafor to be moved thurs? hopefully not to us lol..indiana is interested. but aren't al jefferson and okafor the same type of players? |
Three way trade lol
Lakers Get
Paul George
76ers Get
Jordan Clarkson
Jose Calderon
Pacers 1st Round Pick
Pacers Get
Jahlil Okafor
Nick Young
Lakers HOU pick
lol :p |
JC+Calderon+Hou 1st for PG13... Pelinka is da man |
Forget who coined it.. but I guess you could say Indiana got #ROBbed lol |
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| ch3cky0selff00 wrote: | | Yeah.. except.. Indiana is interested in Jahlil Okafor because they're looking at help FOR Paul George lol. |
Get 0 defenders in Teague and then Oak may help PG13 leave Indy. 
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| ch3cky0selff00 wrote: | | governator wrote: | | MJST wrote: | | Golden_Emperor_24K wrote: | | http://www.csnphilly.com/philadelphia-76ers/report-jahlil-okafor-will-get-moved-thursday okafor to be moved thurs? hopefully not to us lol..indiana is interested. but aren't al jefferson and okafor the same type of players? |
Three way trade lol
Lakers Get
Paul George
76ers Get
Jordan Clarkson
Jose Calderon
Pacers 1st Round Pick
Pacers Get
Jahlil Okafor
Nick Young
Lakers HOU pick
lol :p |
JC+Calderon+Hou 1st for PG13... Pelinka is da man |
Forget who coined it.. but I guess you could say Indiana got #ROBbed lol |
Oh, that's Lowe 
Also acceptable Lowe'balled |
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| ch3cky0selff00 wrote: | | governator wrote: | | MJST wrote: | | Golden_Emperor_24K wrote: | | http://www.csnphilly.com/philadelphia-76ers/report-jahlil-okafor-will-get-moved-thursday okafor to be moved thurs? hopefully not to us lol..indiana is interested. but aren't al jefferson and okafor the same type of players? |
Three way trade lol
Lakers Get
Paul George
76ers Get
Jordan Clarkson
Jose Calderon
Pacers 1st Round Pick
Pacers Get
Jahlil Okafor
Nick Young
Lakers HOU pick
lol :p |
JC+Calderon+Hou 1st for PG13... Pelinka is da man |
Forget who coined it.. but I guess you could say Indiana got #ROBbed lol |
After his first successful trade. "ROBbed" will become the new "Mitch-slapped"! |
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Over/under Magic trading for Okafor?
I don't think he'd send a premium asset (i.e. DLO/Ingram/Zub/Jules, etc.). More like an expiring + Houston's 1st.
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| You guys are scaring me bringing up Okafor's name in these threads |
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | Over/under Magic trading for Okafor?
I don't think he'd send a premium asset (i.e. DLO/Ingram/Zub/Jules, etc.). More like an expiring + Houston's 1st. |
I was reading a 6ers forum and a lot of them think Okafor is a bust. Maybe it's just their overconfidence in Embiid, but they really think Oak's future is just as an average role player.
Considering Zubac is the much better prospect, I'd rather just hold onto that pick then trade it for Okafor. We don't need him. The future of our center position is in Zub's hands. |
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| Quote: | | For teams considering a trade for George, here’s the risk: As a free agent in the summer of 2018, he has considered re-signing with Indiana or joining his hometown Los Angeles Lakers, sources tell The Vertical |
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/sources-pacers-assessing-trade-market-for-paul-george-180740295.html
So rumors of both DMC and PG13 wanting to joining the Lakers in 2018. Continues to beat the dead horse of we should have never gave MozDeng or any other replacement level player more than 2 years this past summer.
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| dcarter4kobe wrote: | | Quote: | | For teams considering a trade for George, here’s the risk: As a free agent in the summer of 2018, he has considered re-signing with Indiana or joining his hometown Los Angeles Lakers, sources tell The Vertical |
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/sources-pacers-assessing-trade-market-for-paul-george-180740295.html
So rumors of both DMC and PG13 wanting to joining the Lakers in 2018. Continues to beat the dead horse of we should have never gave MozDeng or any other replacement level player more than 2 years this past summer. |
Well. Let's get 1 at the least. PG13...the dream is still alive.
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| Wouldn't it make sense to stand pat and sign him in 2018 if he really wants to come here? |
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | Over/under Magic trading for Okafor?
I don't think he'd send a premium asset (i.e. DLO/Ingram/Zub/Jules, etc.). More like an expiring + Houston's 1st. |
Id be fine with Okafor for Young and Houston pick |
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | | dcarter4kobe wrote: | | Quote: | | For teams considering a trade for George, here’s the risk: As a free agent in the summer of 2018, he has considered re-signing with Indiana or joining his hometown Los Angeles Lakers, sources tell The Vertical |
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/sources-pacers-assessing-trade-market-for-paul-george-180740295.html
So rumors of both DMC and PG13 wanting to joining the Lakers in 2018. Continues to beat the dead horse of we should have never gave MozDeng or any other replacement level player more than 2 years this past summer. |
Well. Let's get 1 at the least. PG13...the dream is still alive. |
It's crazy how so many people were so wrong about not maintaining flexibility over "veteran leadership" on here.
On the bright side, with some creativity, DMC and PG13 might still be possible in 2018.
DLO/Ingram/Randle/Nance/Zubac (our main core) will only take up 27M in 2018. Deng stretched in 2018 would be 7.4M and Mozgov 6.5M. Would also require dumping JC. That would put us at about 41M before cap holds which wouldn't be enough cap space if the projected cap remains at 102M.
We would need about 60M in cap, so we would have to find a way to clear Deng or Mozgov off the books completely and stretch the other one.
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | | dcarter4kobe wrote: | | Quote: | | For teams considering a trade for George, here’s the risk: As a free agent in the summer of 2018, he has considered re-signing with Indiana or joining his hometown Los Angeles Lakers, sources tell The Vertical |
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/sources-pacers-assessing-trade-market-for-paul-george-180740295.html
So rumors of both DMC and PG13 wanting to joining the Lakers in 2018. Continues to beat the dead horse of we should have never gave MozDeng or any other replacement level player more than 2 years this past summer. |
Well. Let's get 1 at the least. PG13...the dream is still alive. |
What would you speculate would be the trade for George? Because I am not seeing realistic trade that happens today.
Maybe over the summer if the Lakers get a top 3 pick. but today just not seeing it.
If they are re-building they likely would attach a bad contract of Young, Jefferson or Ellis. So Lakers would need to get close to $30M to even discuss a deal. So maybe they accept Moz or Deng?
Assume Deng, HOU 1st, Ingram, Russell for George today
Not sure that gets it done. And would you do it? Suggest alternative? |
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| Four Decade Bandwagon wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | dcarter4kobe wrote: | | Quote: | | For teams considering a trade for George, here’s the risk: As a free agent in the summer of 2018, he has considered re-signing with Indiana or joining his hometown Los Angeles Lakers, sources tell The Vertical |
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/sources-pacers-assessing-trade-market-for-paul-george-180740295.html
So rumors of both DMC and PG13 wanting to joining the Lakers in 2018. Continues to beat the dead horse of we should have never gave MozDeng or any other replacement level player more than 2 years this past summer. |
Well. Let's get 1 at the least. PG13...the dream is still alive. |
What would you speculate would be the trade for George? Because I am not seeing realistic trade that happens today.
Maybe over the summer if the Lakers get a top 3 pick. but today just not seeing it.
If they are re-building they likely would attach a bad contract of Young, Jefferson or Ellis. So Lakers would need to get close to $30M to even discuss a deal. So maybe they accept Moz or Deng?
Assume Deng, HOU 1st, Ingram, Russell for George today
Not sure that gets it done. And would you do it? Suggest alternative? |
I think at the minimum Bird would want Ingram/Jules/Houston 1st, 2021 Lakers 1st.
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| dcarter4kobe wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | dcarter4kobe wrote: | | Quote: | | For teams considering a trade for George, here’s the risk: As a free agent in the summer of 2018, he has considered re-signing with Indiana or joining his hometown Los Angeles Lakers, sources tell The Vertical |
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/sources-pacers-assessing-trade-market-for-paul-george-180740295.html
So rumors of both DMC and PG13 wanting to joining the Lakers in 2018. Continues to beat the dead horse of we should have never gave MozDeng or any other replacement level player more than 2 years this past summer. |
Well. Let's get 1 at the least. PG13...the dream is still alive. |
It's crazy how so many people were so wrong about not maintaining flexibility over "veteran leadership" on here.
On the bright side, with some creativity, DMC and PG13 might still be possible in 2018.
DLO/Ingram/Randle/Nance/Zubac (our main core) will only take up 27M in 2018. Deng stretched in 2018 would be 7.4M and Mozgov 6.5M. Would also require dumping JC. That would put us at about 41M before cap holds which wouldn't be enough cap space if the projected cap remains at 102M.
We would need about 60M in cap, so we would have to find a way to clear Deng or Mozgov off the books completely and stretch the other one. |
I don't see the value of leveraging our entire team for the next few years on the hope/assumption that Indiana and New Orleans stay bad and both George and Cousins want to switch to a lottery Lakers team.
We've done this song and dance before. It was the last 3 years before top free agents simply stopped bothering to meet with us. It's also worth noting that Magic Johnson was already a part of those failed free agent pitches. |
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | | Four Decade Bandwagon wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | dcarter4kobe wrote: | | Quote: | | For teams considering a trade for George, here’s the risk: As a free agent in the summer of 2018, he has considered re-signing with Indiana or joining his hometown Los Angeles Lakers, sources tell The Vertical |
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/sources-pacers-assessing-trade-market-for-paul-george-180740295.html
So rumors of both DMC and PG13 wanting to joining the Lakers in 2018. Continues to beat the dead horse of we should have never gave MozDeng or any other replacement level player more than 2 years this past summer. |
Well. Let's get 1 at the least. PG13...the dream is still alive. |
What would you speculate would be the trade for George? Because I am not seeing realistic trade that happens today.
Maybe over the summer if the Lakers get a top 3 pick. but today just not seeing it.
If they are re-building they likely would attach a bad contract of Young, Jefferson or Ellis. So Lakers would need to get close to $30M to even discuss a deal. So maybe they accept Moz or Deng?
Assume Deng, HOU 1st, Ingram, Russell for George today
Not sure that gets it done. And would you do it? Suggest alternative? |
I think at the minimum Bird would want Ingram/Jules/Houston 1st, 2021 Lakers 1st. |
What are the chances he gets traded before his impending free agency? |
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | | Four Decade Bandwagon wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | dcarter4kobe wrote: | | Quote: | | For teams considering a trade for George, here’s the risk: As a free agent in the summer of 2018, he has considered re-signing with Indiana or joining his hometown Los Angeles Lakers, sources tell The Vertical |
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/sources-pacers-assessing-trade-market-for-paul-george-180740295.html
So rumors of both DMC and PG13 wanting to joining the Lakers in 2018. Continues to beat the dead horse of we should have never gave MozDeng or any other replacement level player more than 2 years this past summer. |
Well. Let's get 1 at the least. PG13...the dream is still alive. |
What would you speculate would be the trade for George? Because I am not seeing realistic trade that happens today.
Maybe over the summer if the Lakers get a top 3 pick. but today just not seeing it.
If they are re-building they likely would attach a bad contract of Young, Jefferson or Ellis. So Lakers would need to get close to $30M to even discuss a deal. So maybe they accept Moz or Deng?
Assume Deng, HOU 1st, Ingram, Russell for George today
Not sure that gets it done. And would you do it? Suggest alternative? |
I think at the minimum Bird would want Ingram/Jules/Houston 1st, 2021 Lakers 1st. |
I would take away the 2021 pick and do it in a second. If they insist on the 2021 pick, Id probably still bite. |
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| governator wrote: | | MJST wrote: | | Golden_Emperor_24K wrote: | | http://www.csnphilly.com/philadelphia-76ers/report-jahlil-okafor-will-get-moved-thursday okafor to be moved thurs? hopefully not to us lol..indiana is interested. but aren't al jefferson and okafor the same type of players? |
Three way trade lol
Lakers Get
Paul George
76ers Get
Jordan Clarkson
Jose Calderon
Pacers 1st Round Pick
Pacers Get
Jahlil Okafor
Nick Young
Lakers HOU pick
lol :p |
JC+Calderon+Hou 1st for PG13... Pelinka is da man |
That's arguably the same level deal Kings got for Cousins. |
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| dcarter4kobe wrote: | | Quote: | | For teams considering a trade for George, here’s the risk: As a free agent in the summer of 2018, he has considered re-signing with Indiana or joining his hometown Los Angeles Lakers, sources tell The Vertical |
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/sources-pacers-assessing-trade-market-for-paul-george-180740295.html
So rumors of both DMC and PG13 wanting to joining the Lakers in 2018. Continues to beat the dead horse of we should have never gave MozDeng or any other replacement level player more than 2 years this past summer. |
How many years were we supposed to waste leaving money on the table, hoping a couple of star players would want to come team up in Los Angeles?
I don't like the contracts, but the idea was we were supposed to have a budding young core that would win 35-ish games, be fun to watch with a couple of veterans to help guide them along. The idea was we didn't NEED to go grab big superstars right now because these guys were our future superstars.
It was only a bad plan because the young guys aren't as good (yet anyway) as we thought and the vets we signed are more washed than we thought they would be. |
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I'm a big Ingram stan, that being said, if it takes Ingram + fillers to get PG13, I would strongly consider that.
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1 part LULZ, but I wouldn't be surprised at the end of the trade deadline if we somehow ended up trading for both PG13 AND Okafor.  
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | Over/under Magic trading for Okafor?
I don't think he'd send a premium asset (i.e. DLO/Ingram/Zub/Jules, etc.). More like an expiring + Houston's 1st. |
What would be the point ? It'd be such a random move. |
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