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PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2016 8:10 am    Post subject: Reports: Heat won't clear Chris Bosh to return after failed physical

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/17619057/miami-heat-clear-chris-bosh-return-failed-physical
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2016 8:22 am    Post subject:

Ugh. I hate this story.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2016 8:48 am    Post subject:

I hate to say it but he is incredibly lucky. A clot dislodging and ending up in the lungs is typically fatal (pulmonary embolism). At least if he takes care of himself he should be able to live a normal life.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2016 8:51 am    Post subject:

Dang, this sucks for CB

But at least he's alive
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2016 8:55 am    Post subject:

Retire. Please retire. It is not worth it. He's got all those babies at home...it's just not worth the risk.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2016 9:00 am    Post subject:

Not surprised, the Heat would be liable if he were to drop dead in the middle of the court. He just needs to retire and find a career after basketball to fill the void.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2016 9:35 am    Post subject:

this is wack with a capital H man
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2016 12:11 pm    Post subject:

Really sorry to hear this for Chris. But I really could not see playing while he still on meds. The six months I was on blood thinner was some of the hardest months of my life and I'm not running around with other very large people on the basketball court.

That's a real bummer. I am bummed for him
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2016 9:45 pm    Post subject:

Does he still get paid if he retires?
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2016 9:52 pm    Post subject:

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Does he still get paid if he retires?


Guaranteed contract so he gets paid either way. They could buy him out but then they would get no cap relief so from a competitive standpoint the team would suffer in its rebuilding. I believe since it would be a medical retirement the Miami Heat get cap relief.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 24, 2016 7:30 am    Post subject:

Bosh should retire. I know he loves playing but there's more to life than basketball. Besides, the Heat aren't worth the risk.

Props to the team doctors who don't give in to the pressure of clearing him to play.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 24, 2016 9:24 am    Post subject:

AllorNothing wrote:
Does he still get paid if he retires?


Yep. Insurance would cover a medical retirement.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 24, 2016 6:52 pm    Post subject:

There are things more important than basketball in life.
Retire and go take care of yourself and your family, Bosh.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2016 7:57 am    Post subject:

I hope that this news signals to Bosh both that pro sports for him is over, and that desire for future participation in most forms of real athletic activity equates to something akin to a death wish.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2016 8:13 am    Post subject:

lakersken80 wrote:
AllorNothing wrote:
Does he still get paid if he retires?


Guaranteed contract so he gets paid either way. They could buy him out but then they would get no cap relief so from a competitive standpoint the team would suffer in its rebuilding. I believe since it would be a medical retirement the Miami Heat get cap relief.


Pretty unique cap situation with Bosh.
Please correct me if I'm wrong Bard, DB or the other cap experts.
But if MIA waives Bosh (soonest possible time to do so is 2nd week of February) and another team besides the heat signs and plays bosh the rest of the season, Bosh's salary would count against Miami's cap.

If they waive him and nobody signs and plays him. I'm sure Miami has an insurance policy that will pay Bosh and it won't count against their cap.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2016 10:02 am    Post subject:

From what I read, the medical retirement is best for Miami because of the cap situation. Any other options like a buyout or Bosh resuming his career for another team would be bad for their team. So yes it does benefit the Miami Heat if he goes out with a medical retirement. I guess with the team as its currently built Bosh wouldn't really benefit them much and they could go on the business of rebuilding faster if he were to medically retire.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2016 11:51 am    Post subject:

kikanga wrote:
lakersken80 wrote:
AllorNothing wrote:
Does he still get paid if he retires?


Guaranteed contract so he gets paid either way. They could buy him out but then they would get no cap relief so from a competitive standpoint the team would suffer in its rebuilding. I believe since it would be a medical retirement the Miami Heat get cap relief.


Pretty unique cap situation with Bosh.
Please correct me if I'm wrong Bard, DB or the other cap experts.
But if MIA waives Bosh (soonest possible time to do so is 2nd week of February) and another team besides the heat signs and plays bosh the rest of the season, Bosh's salary would count against Miami's cap.

If they waive him and nobody signs and plays him. I'm sure Miami has an insurance policy that will pay Bosh and it won't count against their cap.


I believe if he signs elsewhere and plays 20 games his salary is back on the Heat's cap.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 30, 2016 5:48 pm    Post subject:

I just saw on Instagram that Riley announced Bosh would not be back with the Heat. Then Bosh said he had only heard to through the media and didn't get a call or text from Riley. This has officially gotten ugly.

Bosh still wants to/thinks he can play. I wonder who'd be crazy enough to trade for him. Houston? Atlanta? Cleveland? San Antonio?
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 30, 2016 5:49 pm    Post subject:

Nick young, Tarik Black, and Marcelo for Bosh? Lol
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 30, 2016 6:05 pm    Post subject:

venturalakersfan wrote:
kikanga wrote:
lakersken80 wrote:
AllorNothing wrote:
Does he still get paid if he retires?


Guaranteed contract so he gets paid either way. They could buy him out but then they would get no cap relief so from a competitive standpoint the team would suffer in its rebuilding. I believe since it would be a medical retirement the Miami Heat get cap relief.


Pretty unique cap situation with Bosh.
Please correct me if I'm wrong Bard, DB or the other cap experts.
But if MIA waives Bosh (soonest possible time to do so is 2nd week of February) and another team besides the heat signs and plays bosh the rest of the season, Bosh's salary would count against Miami's cap.

If they waive him and nobody signs and plays him. I'm sure Miami has an insurance policy that will pay Bosh and it won't count against their cap.


I believe if he signs elsewhere and plays 20 games his salary is back on the Heat's cap.


Does he have to play? It'd be funny if just did that and never set foot on the floor just to stick it to Riles.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 30, 2016 6:57 pm    Post subject:

http://www.uninterrupted.com/watch/82oKRX5A/ep-4-crossroads?playlist=N4M8xKh5

Just saw the video of Bosh finding out that Pat Riley said Bosh's Heat career is over. I definitely feel bad for him. He does not seem ready to let his playing days be over.

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The secondary audio of Bosh's latest video: "If you think you're going to turn my medical issue into cap space, think again."


They might just have to go the buyout route.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 30, 2016 7:59 pm    Post subject:

Riley's handling of the situation is disappointing on a human level ...

I get the pure business standpoint driving his stance, and nobody should ever misunderstand what a calculating mother-(bleep) Riles is, but I also think the cutthroat way he's handling Bosh's medical condition may affect the free agency prospects for the Heat for years to come. Buenvenidos a Miami ...

Meanwhile, remember when some people were prancing around here crowing re: how Miami was going to be just fine without LeBron, probably even better for his having left (you know, because he obviously makes teammates play worse)? Uh, 20 - 25 wins incoming ...
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 30, 2016 8:40 pm    Post subject:

It will be interesting what Bosh does next.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 30, 2016 8:42 pm    Post subject:

the association wrote:
Riley's handling of the situation is disappointing on a human level ...

I get the pure business standpoint driving his stance, and nobody should ever misunderstand what a calculating mother-(bleep) Riles is, but I also think the cutthroat way he's handling Bosh's medical condition may affect the free agency prospects for the Heat for years to come. Buenvenidos a Miami ...

Meanwhile, remember when some people were prancing around here crowing re: how Miami was going to be just fine without LeBron, probably even better for his having left (you know, because he obviously makes teammates play worse)? Uh, 20 - 25 wins incoming ...


After seeing Riley do Wade dirty, Bosh owes the Heat nothing. With Riley putting out in the press that his career is over, I think he is talking to his agent about what to do next.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 01, 2016 9:01 am    Post subject:

He should retire.
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