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PayasoLoco
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| FreakofNature wrote: | And there goes T-ROB again.... 14 minutes another 12 points. In the last game he played in before sitting out the last couple he scored 16 points with 6 boards in 10 minutes...
Last 2 games: 28 points, 9 boards in 24 minutes....  |
his per 36 is 42 points and 13.5 boards |
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adkindo
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| Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2017 7:26 am Post subject: |
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| cKPayasoLoco wrote: | | FreakofNature wrote: | And there goes T-ROB again.... 14 minutes another 12 points. In the last game he played in before sitting out the last couple he scored 16 points with 6 boards in 10 minutes...
Last 2 games: 28 points, 9 boards in 24 minutes.... |
his per 36 is 42 points and 13.5 boards |
maybe if he can stay in one place and get a bit of job security, he can work on getting a mid range jumper...the guy could be a tough matchup if he could add an 18-20 footer to the arsenal. |
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FreakofNature
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| Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2017 9:12 am Post subject: |
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T_ROB has been doing it all season. Even in pre-season he was just about 18 and 18 per 36. He played 45 minutes, and grabbed 22 boards, with 22 points.
If you look at his career stats in prior seasons, and look at games where he actually got time, he was producing numbers even better than he has here with us this season.
In 25 games this season where he has played in at least 10 minutes, an average of 15 minutes per game for those 25 games, he is at 6.6PPG and 6RPG, basically 15.0PPG and 14.4RPG per 36.
It would be nice to see him get 34 or so minutes for a couple games in a row, just for curiosity sake at least....  |
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pio2u
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| Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2017 11:13 am Post subject: |
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| FreakofNature wrote: | T_ROB has been doing it all season. Even in pre-season he was just about 18 and 18 per 36. He played 45 minutes, and grabbed 22 boards, with 22 points.
If you look at his career stats in prior seasons, and look at games where he actually got time, he was producing numbers even better than he has here with us this season.
In 25 games this season where he has played in at least 10 minutes, an average of 15 minutes per game for those 25 games, he is at 6.6PPG and 6RPG, basically 15.0PPG and 14.4RPG per 36.
It would be nice to see him get 34 or so minutes for a couple games in a row, just for curiosity sake at least.... |
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FreakofNature
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| Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2017 2:04 pm Post subject: |
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| cKPayasoLoco wrote: | | FreakofNature wrote: | And there goes T-ROB again.... 14 minutes another 12 points. In the last game he played in before sitting out the last couple he scored 16 points with 6 boards in 10 minutes...
Last 2 games: 28 points, 9 boards in 24 minutes.... |
his per 36 is 42 points and 13.5 boards |
JUST another day at the office.... 16 points and 9 boards in 22 minutes...Last 3 games: 44 points, 18 boards in 46 minutes...Basically 35 and 14 per 36 in the last 3... |
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Inspector Gadget
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| Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2017 2:07 pm Post subject: |
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| This guy needs to come back next year, he's way better then Black despite both being arguably the same talent. |
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tony
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| Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2017 2:09 pm Post subject: |
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| Great energy guy off the bench. He can be a little out of control sometimes but you know he's going to come out with a lot of effort. |
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Yong
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| Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2017 2:53 pm Post subject: |
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| Inspector Gadget wrote: | | This guy needs to come back next year, he's way better then Black despite both being arguably the same talent. |
Starting to feel that way too.
Not to mention that Black is about 4x more expensive than him at this moment.
Although you can also argue that Mozgov is 10x more expensive .... |
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Inspector Gadget
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| Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2017 2:59 pm Post subject: |
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| Yong wrote: | | Inspector Gadget wrote: | | This guy needs to come back next year, he's way better then Black despite both being arguably the same talent. |
Starting to feel that way too.
Not to mention that Black is about 4x more expensive than him at this moment.
Although you can also argue that Mozgov is 10x more expensive .... |
Moz is the better talent, but having both Black and Robinson seems redundant, at least Robinson can knock down the 8-10ft jumper. |
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Eindhoven
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| Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2017 3:00 pm Post subject: |
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| Inspector Gadget wrote: | | This guy needs to come back next year, he's way better then Black despite both being arguably the same talent. |
I think there's a big difference on defense. Tarik is way better than T-Rob on that end.
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Inspector Gadget
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| Eindhoven wrote: | | Inspector Gadget wrote: | | This guy needs to come back next year, he's way better then Black despite both being arguably the same talent. |
I think there's a big difference on defense. Tarik is way better than T-Rob on that end. |
But who is the better talent? |
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Yong
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| Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2017 3:14 pm Post subject: |
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| Inspector Gadget wrote: | | Yong wrote: | | Inspector Gadget wrote: | | This guy needs to come back next year, he's way better then Black despite both being arguably the same talent. |
Starting to feel that way too.
Not to mention that Black is about 4x more expensive than him at this moment.
Although you can also argue that Mozgov is 10x more expensive .... |
Moz is the better talent, but having both Black and Robinson seems redundant, at least Robinson can knock down the 8-10ft jumper. |
But Black just hit a 20ft jumper today so...... |
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LakerDYnasty72
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| Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2017 3:34 pm Post subject: |
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| Yong wrote: | | Inspector Gadget wrote: | | Yong wrote: | | Inspector Gadget wrote: | | This guy needs to come back next year, he's way better then Black despite both being arguably the same talent. |
Starting to feel that way too.
Not to mention that Black is about 4x more expensive than him at this moment.
Although you can also argue that Mozgov is 10x more expensive .... |
Moz is the better talent, but having both Black and Robinson seems redundant, at least Robinson can knock down the 8-10ft jumper. |
But Black just hit a 20ft jumper today so...... |
I don't see as a Trob vs. TBlack for a roster spot next year at all. I see TROB as a smart player to bring back to replace at the least MWP's dead weight presence. TRob is on a minimum contract andd producing maximum numbers.
We'd be foolish to let cheap, good assets like him to go. It was his energy and consistent effort, no matter his "low bball IQ", and other stuff I've heard, that changed the game when we fell down 17-0 to Clippers. |
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Eindhoven
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| Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2017 3:47 pm Post subject: |
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| Inspector Gadget wrote: | | Eindhoven wrote: | | Inspector Gadget wrote: | | This guy needs to come back next year, he's way better then Black despite both being arguably the same talent. |
I think there's a big difference on defense. Tarik is way better than T-Rob on that end. |
But who is the better talent? |
I don't see them competing for a roster spot against each other. Both are great rebounders, TRob is craftier in offense and Black is a better defender, but Black's offense is better than TRob's defense. They even play different positions. If I had to chose one, Black. But I think both have a place in the roster, next year.
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Inspector Gadget
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| Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2017 3:51 pm Post subject: |
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| Eindhoven wrote: | | Inspector Gadget wrote: | | Eindhoven wrote: | | Inspector Gadget wrote: | | This guy needs to come back next year, he's way better then Black despite both being arguably the same talent. |
I think there's a big difference on defense. Tarik is way better than T-Rob on that end. |
But who is the better talent? |
I don't see them competing for a roster spot against each other. Both are great rebounders, TRob is craftier in offense and Black is a better defender, but Black's offense is better than TRob's defense. They even play different positions. If I had to chose one, Black. But I think both have a place in the roster, next year. |
Based on looking at the salary numbers, Black has a 8M cap hold while Robinson is earning less, Black can be used as a piece to match salaries in a Trade, I believe Robinson is better especially if we can bring him back on a minimum contract. |
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Eindhoven
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| Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2017 3:58 pm Post subject: |
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| Inspector Gadget wrote: | | Eindhoven wrote: | | Inspector Gadget wrote: | | Eindhoven wrote: | | Inspector Gadget wrote: | | This guy needs to come back next year, he's way better then Black despite both being arguably the same talent. |
I think there's a big difference on defense. Tarik is way better than T-Rob on that end. |
But who is the better talent? |
I don't see them competing for a roster spot against each other. Both are great rebounders, TRob is craftier in offense and Black is a better defender, but Black's offense is better than TRob's defense. They even play different positions. If I had to chose one, Black. But I think both have a place in the roster, next year. |
Based on looking at the salary numbers, Black has a 8M cap hold while Robinson is earning less, Black can be used as a piece to match salaries in a Trade, I believe Robinson is better especially if we can bring him back on a minimum contract. |
That's true, but I've just analyzed their game. Still, considering how much we need defense, I'd trade Black only if it's necessary to close a bigger deal or open cap.
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| Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2017 8:24 pm Post subject: |
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| He played hard today, as is usually the case. It's nice to have a guy like Robinson who you know you can throw in there when you are in a rut and if nothing else his energy can change the game in the same way Jordan Hill did in his early time in L.A.. |
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Inspector Gadget
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| Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2017 8:40 pm Post subject: |
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| Eindhoven wrote: | | Inspector Gadget wrote: | | Eindhoven wrote: | | Inspector Gadget wrote: | | Eindhoven wrote: | | Inspector Gadget wrote: | | This guy needs to come back next year, he's way better then Black despite both being arguably the same talent. |
I think there's a big difference on defense. Tarik is way better than T-Rob on that end. |
But who is the better talent? |
I don't see them competing for a roster spot against each other. Both are great rebounders, TRob is craftier in offense and Black is a better defender, but Black's offense is better than TRob's defense. They even play different positions. If I had to chose one, Black. But I think both have a place in the roster, next year. |
Based on looking at the salary numbers, Black has a 8M cap hold while Robinson is earning less, Black can be used as a piece to match salaries in a Trade, I believe Robinson is better especially if we can bring him back on a minimum contract. |
That's true, but I've just analyzed their game. Still, considering how much we need defense, I'd trade Black only if it's necessary to close a bigger deal or open cap. |
Blacks contract is friendly, I think he has a lot of value... we need to sacrifice keeping either Black or Robinson but Blacks the easier guy to get value from a team cause of his 8M cap.
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adkindo
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| Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2017 8:41 pm Post subject: |
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| Inspector Gadget wrote: | | Eindhoven wrote: | | Inspector Gadget wrote: | | Eindhoven wrote: | | Inspector Gadget wrote: | | Eindhoven wrote: | | Inspector Gadget wrote: | | This guy needs to come back next year, he's way better then Black despite both being arguably the same talent. |
I think there's a big difference on defense. Tarik is way better than T-Rob on that end. |
But who is the better talent? |
I don't see them competing for a roster spot against each other. Both are great rebounders, TRob is craftier in offense and Black is a better defender, but Black's offense is better than TRob's defense. They even play different positions. If I had to chose one, Black. But I think both have a place in the roster, next year. |
Based on looking at the salary numbers, Black has a 8M cap hold while Robinson is earning less, Black can be used as a piece to match salaries in a Trade, I believe Robinson is better especially if we can bring him back on a minimum contract. |
That's true, but I've just analyzed their game. Still, considering how much we need defense, I'd trade Black only if it's necessary to close a bigger deal or open cap. |
Blacks contract is friendly, I think he has a lot of value... we need to sacrifice keeping either Black or Robinson. |
why? |
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Inspector Gadget
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| adkindo wrote: | | Inspector Gadget wrote: | | Eindhoven wrote: | | Inspector Gadget wrote: | | Eindhoven wrote: | | Inspector Gadget wrote: | | Eindhoven wrote: | | Inspector Gadget wrote: | | This guy needs to come back next year, he's way better then Black despite both being arguably the same talent. |
I think there's a big difference on defense. Tarik is way better than T-Rob on that end. |
But who is the better talent? |
I don't see them competing for a roster spot against each other. Both are great rebounders, TRob is craftier in offense and Black is a better defender, but Black's offense is better than TRob's defense. They even play different positions. If I had to chose one, Black. But I think both have a place in the roster, next year. |
Based on looking at the salary numbers, Black has a 8M cap hold while Robinson is earning less, Black can be used as a piece to match salaries in a Trade, I believe Robinson is better especially if we can bring him back on a minimum contract. |
That's true, but I've just analyzed their game. Still, considering how much we need defense, I'd trade Black only if it's necessary to close a bigger deal or open cap. |
Blacks contract is friendly, I think he has a lot of value... we need to sacrifice keeping either Black or Robinson. |
why? |
Cause we have a pile of big man...
Mozgov
Nance
Randle
Deng (currently a PF then a SF). |
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tox
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| Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2017 8:44 pm Post subject: |
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Cause we have a pile of big man...
Mozgov
Nance
Randle
Deng (currently a PF then a SF). |
But Robinson is an awesome 3rd string big so it works out well? |
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adkindo
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| Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2017 8:47 pm Post subject: |
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| Inspector Gadget wrote: | | adkindo wrote: | | Inspector Gadget wrote: | | Eindhoven wrote: | | Inspector Gadget wrote: | | Eindhoven wrote: | | Inspector Gadget wrote: | | Eindhoven wrote: | | Inspector Gadget wrote: | | This guy needs to come back next year, he's way better then Black despite both being arguably the same talent. |
I think there's a big difference on defense. Tarik is way better than T-Rob on that end. |
But who is the better talent? |
I don't see them competing for a roster spot against each other. Both are great rebounders, TRob is craftier in offense and Black is a better defender, but Black's offense is better than TRob's defense. They even play different positions. If I had to chose one, Black. But I think both have a place in the roster, next year. |
Based on looking at the salary numbers, Black has a 8M cap hold while Robinson is earning less, Black can be used as a piece to match salaries in a Trade, I believe Robinson is better especially if we can bring him back on a minimum contract. |
That's true, but I've just analyzed their game. Still, considering how much we need defense, I'd trade Black only if it's necessary to close a bigger deal or open cap. |
Blacks contract is friendly, I think he has a lot of value... we need to sacrifice keeping either Black or Robinson. |
why? |
Cause we have a pile of big man...
Mozgov
Nance
Randle
Deng (currently a PF then a SF). |
we have a 15-17 man roster next season, and although Deng may be better @ PF, Luke still plays him as a SF. One person will not completely swing the balance of the roster. Alot depends on if we will try to maximize space in 2018 for PG-13. |
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Inspector Gadget
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| Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2017 8:58 pm Post subject: |
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| adkindo wrote: | | Inspector Gadget wrote: | | adkindo wrote: | | Inspector Gadget wrote: | | Eindhoven wrote: | | Inspector Gadget wrote: | | Eindhoven wrote: | | Inspector Gadget wrote: | | Eindhoven wrote: | | Inspector Gadget wrote: | | This guy needs to come back next year, he's way better then Black despite both being arguably the same talent. |
I think there's a big difference on defense. Tarik is way better than T-Rob on that end. |
But who is the better talent? |
I don't see them competing for a roster spot against each other. Both are great rebounders, TRob is craftier in offense and Black is a better defender, but Black's offense is better than TRob's defense. They even play different positions. If I had to chose one, Black. But I think both have a place in the roster, next year. |
Based on looking at the salary numbers, Black has a 8M cap hold while Robinson is earning less, Black can be used as a piece to match salaries in a Trade, I believe Robinson is better especially if we can bring him back on a minimum contract. |
That's true, but I've just analyzed their game. Still, considering how much we need defense, I'd trade Black only if it's necessary to close a bigger deal or open cap. |
Blacks contract is friendly, I think he has a lot of value... we need to sacrifice keeping either Black or Robinson. |
why? |
Cause we have a pile of big man...
Mozgov
Nance
Randle
Deng (currently a PF then a SF). |
we have a 15-17 man roster next season, and although Deng may be better @ PF, Luke still plays him as a SF. One person will not completely swing the balance of the roster. Alot depends on if we will try to maximize space in 2018 for PG-13. |
I would truly be shocked if we don't use all of our flexibility to bring in talent, the new regime wants to make there mark. |
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tox
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| Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2017 9:02 pm Post subject: |
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| I know T-Rob, moreso than other players, benefits from highlights since they gloss over the mistakes he makes on defense, but man he looked great from the highlights. |
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FreakofNature
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| Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2017 9:19 pm Post subject: |
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| tox wrote: | | I know T-Rob, moreso than other players, benefits from highlights since they gloss over the mistakes he makes on defense, but man he looked great from the highlights. |
As if most of the other lakers are juggernauts on the defensive end... 
Does he know someone in the highlight reel edit room, where they give him favoritism and "gloss over" his mistakes, but put the others under a microscope? |
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