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PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2016 11:39 pm    Post subject: NUGGETS -at- LAKERS – 10-7-16 - Thoughts and :-(( Ratings

Signs… I don’t know if you can have trends after just two games, but this season has some noticeable differences from our previous two seasons under Byron Scott.

The signs of improvement are everywhere. Defensively, they are much less confused and much more aware of their coverages and rotations. They don’t react late like Scott’s teams – that half-a-step advantage they always seemed to give an opponent is not a consistent menace like last year.

They are certainly playing with more energy on that end of the court. Whether that’s because they aren’t being run into the ground in the preseason or they are on younger legs (no Kobe, no Hibbert) or both, hard to say. But the efforts on D have been much more impressive.

Offensively, they moving the ball from side to side much more consistently and with purpose (not just going through the motions). We aren’t seeing the continual late clock iso situations Scott’s flawed sets produced again…and again…and again. You could probably count those plays on one hand in the past two games. The pace is just much, much better. In fact, we had one post play tonight where we ran through a brief play, got the ball to the bigman and had a shot off with 15 left on the shotclock after bringing the ball up court. That would have taken at least another 8-9 seconds last year. They are already far more nuanced in their offensive sets.

They also did a much better job of playing to their strengths tonight unlike the last game.

After a slow start, they took control of the game behind their second unit again. Then Russell returned to the floor and shelled the Nuggets with 19 first half points to extend the Lakers lead. They controlled the game until they went to their deep bench late in the fourth quarter to give them some run. Then things got real ugly. But other than a few too many FTs and offensive boards, Luke liked what he saw by his rotation players in the 101-97 loss.

“The overall effort from the guys, I was very pleased with,” Luke said. He mentioned they got into the pace he wants them to play at as defense turned into transition opportunities.


Russell -- -- I mentioned last game that neither he nor Randle played to their strengths offensively. They did tonight as Russell scored 21 points in 24 minutes. Russell got to his sweet spots and bread and butter shots. We had some play calls just for him as a shooter in this one (elevator play, loop play), stuff they run in Golden State. He had 19 points in the first half. Not an easy lineup to work in with Mozgov, Randle and Metta, who aren’t the best floor spacing trio. He took off more in his second stint in the half with some different lineups. He was hitting threes, getting his man on his hip and hitting those 15-footers and looking more like the scorer he needs to be at the lead guard spot. His defense was strong again, not quite as disruptive as the last game, but both he and Clarkson are looking much better on that end of the floor so far this preseason. The Stats: He scored 21 points on 7-14 shooting (4-8 from three, 3-4 from the line) to go with 4 boards, 5 assists, 1 steal, 4 turnovers and 1 foul in 24 minutes. He was a +1. The Action: He missed a pull-up coming off a screen. He coughed up the dribble (right hand dribble). Excellent probe off the screen, he drew the D and hit Randle in the lane for the short one. He swished a pull-up at the FT line coming off the screen (good job getting to his spot for an easy one). He sank a wing three on the pull-up in early offense. He got tapped badly on a wing three from the other side next time down. He missed a three straight away coming off the elevator screen out of a timeout. He drained a three straight away off the Ingram post up. He found Nance running the floor with a 40-foot pass for the layup. He was called for a travel after picking up his dribble on a drive. He looped around the screens after giving the ball up, took the return pass on the other side of the court and swished the three. He probed off the screen and swished the 14-footer. He pushed out the loose ball on the next play, pulled up as the D retreated to the paint and drained the three to force a timeout. He missed a wing three in transition. He sank the elbow pull-up, putting his man in jail. He was fouled in transition, he made one FT. He had 19 points on 7-11 shooting (4-7 from three). Second Half: He missed an open wing three. He threw a pass into Nick’s feet, turnover. He attacked the paint in early offense and drew FTs, he made both. He poked the ball away with a reach from behind to ignite a break. Short on a runner to his left. He missed an elbow pull-up.

Randle -- -- Randle played more to his strengths tonight. We saw him pushing out boards and getting the defense on its heels. “Just trying to push the pace,” Randle said. He has to impose his energy, athleticism and speed on the game. It doesn’t matter if he has big stat nights as long as he’s not drifting through stretches of his minutes. A couple of his best plays of the night came in the uptempo attack. He tracked down one board, pushed it out with some freight train speed and hit Zubac for the dunk on one. The other was a nice drive through traffic in early offense to finish a sweet layup with his right. He also had dish to Mozgov in transition for a dunk. Still some issues defensively (Metta got posterized because Randle didn’t match up properly on one transition D sequence…and Randle didn’t hustle back on another). The Stats: He scored 6 points on 3-5 shooting (0-1 from three) to go with 6 boards, 3 assists, 1 steal, 2 turnovers and 2 fouls in 21 minutes. He was a -5. The Action: He finished a short floater in the lane off the Russell setup. He attacked left and powered in a layup. He attacked baseline and coughed it up. He pushed up the ball and hit Mozgov on the break for the jam. He couldn’t power in a short one in a crowd. He battled for a defensive board, tapped it to himself, put it in turbo mode on the pushout and zipped a pass to Zubac (who beat everyone down court) for the dunk. Second Half: He iso’d and threw it away in early offense. His pushout of a loose ball led to an open three by Nick. He forced a foul on another pushout. He missed a three on a kickout in early offense. He took the outlet from Russell, dribbled around a defender and took it through the D for a rightly layup.

Mozgov -- -- Not a great night, especially the 4 turnovers from the C spot. The bigmen also have to deal with spacing issues lineups. Nothing was real clean for him as he was running into traffic and the timing seemed off on some sequences. Screen setting he had some strong moments there and that will only get better as the chemistry grows. Lou seemed to get freed up easily in both halves working off Mozgov. The Stats: He scored 4 points on 2-7 shooting to go with 5 boards, 1 assist, 4 turnovers and 4 fouls in 21 minutes. He was a -10. The Action: He missed an open 18-footer to start the game. He sank a jumphook getting good position on the left block (15 on the shotclock). He threw a pass away taking contact on a drive. He missed a layup on the screen-roll. Not close on a turnaround in the lane. He couldn’t finish on the screen-roll. Good job beating his man down court and Randle hit him for the dunk. He couldn’t finish in a crowd. Second Half: He lost the ball in the post. He was called for three seconds next time down.

Williams -- -- You could see him irked with the refs in the first half after not getting the whistle on a couple of plays. That may have chilled his effort in drawing FTs in this game. I like seeing us use Lou as the trigger man on the pass on some of the plays (often for Russell). You can tell when it’s Ingram or Williams handling the ball in early offense off a dead ball that we’re looking to setup Russell of screens. I’m not sure how long we will keep Clarkson on the bench, but he’s outplaying Lou with the better two-way game right now. The Stats: He scored 10 points on 3-8 shooting (2-4 from three, 2-3 from the line) to go with 4 boards, 3 assists, 1 steal, 1 turnover and 1 foul in 22 minutes. He was a -2. The Action: He threw a behind-the-back pass away under the hoop. He drained a drifting three off the split play with Russell. He drew the FTs in early offense from the left wing three, he made two. He missed the fading wing 16-footer. He missed a fading jumper expecting the whistle. He poked a ball loose on D. He sank a drifting 16-footer. He missed an off-balance runner, expecting another whistle that didn’t come. He hit Russell on the loop play for a three. Nice hustle to save a Zubac block inbounds to get the stop. Second Half: He popped free behind the Mozgov screen and hit the corner three. He tracked down an outlet and hit Nick for the three. He missed a wing three. He missed a fading sideline three.

World Peace -- -- Deng banged knees with Brown in practice and sat tonight. Luke gave Metta the start in the first half for a few minutes as a result. Can he really make the squad again? He didn’t do much in his 6 minutes and it certainly didn’t stop the team from a slow start defensively. The Stats: He didn’t score on 0-2 shooting (0-1 from three) to go with 1 board, 1 steal and 2 fouls in 6 minutes. He was a -5. The Action: He missed a wing three when his man sagged off. He posted up and airballed the righty jumphook. Second Half: He did not play in the second half.

Clarkson -- -- “We’re communicating a lot better than we did last year,” Clarkson said about the defense. “He’s done a good job really detailing stuff in practice and keeping us fresh. That’s why we get after it,” Clarkson said. Interpret whether that’s shade in BScott’s direction if you want. From an individual standpoint on D, he’s bringing it (4 steals tonight). He said he’s trying to show that he’s improved this year on that end of the floor. It shows in the extra effort, the hands in the passing lanes as he recovers to his man and some better understanding of the team D schemes. It also feels like the guys know what they want to do and the rules of their coverages. Last year was mass confusion, second guessing, continual breakdowns. Even though it’s preseason, they look better than the team did at the end of last season. Luke is getting some good ball by that Clarkson/Nance second unit. They are turning defense into offense with regularity in the two games so far. The Stats: He scored 15 points on 6-12 shooting (1-4 from three, 2-2 from the line) to go with 2 boards, 2 assists, 4 steals, 1 turnover and 2 fouls in 20 minutes. He was a +20. The Action: He missed a sideline three, leaning too much to his left. He picked off a horrible cross-court pass (right to him). He slapped down a pass coming off the screen and sank the three. Great job keeping his eye on the ball as his man cut and he knocked down the pass on D to ignite a break. He took the feed from Ingram in transition and was hacked on the strong And-1 finish at the rim, he made the FT. He scooped up the loose ball on the D end (at the FT line) with BillyMac counting down, “with 3, with 2,“ Jordan finished the layup at high speed at the buzzer. He missed a wing jumper on an inbounds. He attacked right and missed the fade. He probed the lane and lost the help D on an up-and-under for a layup. He got hammered in the lane with no call. He had 10 points on 4-8 shooting. Second Half: He forced a pass for a turnover. He was swatted on a corner three. He backed it out, got the screen from Nance and took it to the help big for the And-1 runner in the paint, he made the FT. He missed a tough, quick-fire three at the buzzer. He attacked off the three line past his man for a layup, then stole the inbounds pass. He set up Yi on the two-man game for a score at the rim.

Ingram -- -- “He called bank. I heard him. He called that,” Russell joked when asked about Ingram’s banked three. He said things will only get easier for the rookie. “I’m not worried. He’ll adjust.” Ingram said he was surprised when the three dropped because he thought it was way off. That wasn’t his first bucket as a pro. He got a lob dunk from Huertas before that to finally get his first field goal. Luke wanted to keep him in that second unit to see if they could play like they did in the last one, so he didn’t throw Ingram in with the starters. “He still looks like he’s rushing his shot,” Luke said, mentioning he’s not concerned because Brandon shoots lights out in practice. Luke really has a grasp on Brandon’s game. He also pointed out that he was too upright defensively on some plays, but still very strong on that end of the floor in other stretches. As soon as the game slows down a little for him, things will fall in place. Good things generally happen when he’s on the floor. He was a +18 in 17 minutes. “Offensively, he always does the right thing,” Luke said. The Stats: He scored 6 points on 2-8 shooting (1-2 from three, 1-2 from the line) to go with 2 boards, 2 assists, 1 steal, 1 block and 1 foul in 17 minutes. He was a +18. The Action: He posted up and kicked to Russell for the three. He missed an early offense 19-footer. He drew FTs on a cut, he made one. Superb read jumping the passing lane on a cut from the weakside, he then fed it ahead to Clarkson for the And-1 layup. He missed a short jumper working the elbow off the horns play. Second Half: He missed a pull-up, got it back and missed the drive. He fed to Huertas, took a screen on his way to the hoop and finished the lob pass over the D. He missed an open sideline three in transition. He took a Clarkson kickout, stepped into the three and banked it in (he did not want that one to come up short, lol). He airballed or was blocked on a pull-up in the lane.

Nance -- -- At the end of the first quarter, the pace of the game changed as the Lakers were changing ends, getting steals and stops and turning those in transition buckets. Nance, Randle, Ingram, Clarkson are all very active and doing an excellent job in the passing lanes. We’ve seen Nance team up with Black quite a bit in the two games (some with Randle tonight, as well). He is really looking for Black, as well, offensively. I think there were three straight plays in the first half where he tried to feed Tarik. It’s not always clean, but they seem to make it work. Nance was getting in some good battles on the glass (drawing a couple of Nugget fouls on the D end). The Stats: He scored 11 points on 4-7 shooting (0-1 from three, 3-4 from the line) to go with 5 boards, 1 steal, 2 turnovers and 2 fouls in 18 minutes. He was a +10. The Action: Good job running the floor and Russell hit him with the 40-foot pass for the layup. He drew FTs on a loose ball foul, he made one. He threw a pass away on a drive, but poked it loose again and for Black who dunked. He hit Black cutting, who then missed the layup, but Nance was right there for the follow slam. He tried an over-the-shoulder pass to Black that was picked off (right pass in that situation, but tough to pull off). He swiped a pass and took it the distance for the jam. He was fouled on the screen-roll with Clarkson for FTs, he made both. He missed a sideline jumper. He had 9 points on 3-4 shooting. Second Half: He was stripped in the post. He attacked and hit Black for a score. He couldn’t finish a putback jam. He stretched out on a lob from Huertas and somehow got it over the rim before going down.

Black -- -- Certainly not the game changing minutes like the last one, but he’s got Luke’s attention, for sure. He may see a little less time in the next one, however, as Luke wants to get some minutes for others. He and Nance did a good job mixing it up. Nance is continually looking for him as he’s usually in the right spot. The Stats: He scored 6 points on 3-5 shooting to go with 4 boards (2 offensive), 1 steal, 2 turnovers and 4 fouls in 13 minutes. He was a +9. The Action: Quick attack off the dribble and he lost the handle. Bad foul reaching on his man 30 feet from the hoop to give up FTs. He grabbed a loose ball and hammered down a dunk. He grabbed an offensive board but had it was stripped out of bounds before he could power up. Second Half: He threw a pass away. He hit the jumphook off the Nance drive and dish. He muscled in a jumphook off the Huertas drive and dish. He attacked a crowd from the elbow and couldn’t finish over the D.

Zubac -- -- “On Sunday he’s going to play a lot more minutes,” Luke said. He sparked the team in his brief stint to close the first half. Good job getting up and down the court for both scoring opportunities and defensive stops. I thought they might get him some more minutes to close the game and perhaps secure the win in the garbage time. But he only played the 3 minutes in the first half where he was a +8. I love watching players trying to test him because he answers the call most of the time. He had 2 blocks and another alteration in his brief stint. The crowd responds to him, too. Can’t wait to see him get more minutes. The Stats: He scored 2 points on 1-2 shooting to go with 1 board, 2 blocks and no fouls in 3 minutes. He was a +8. The Action: Great fake right, but he couldn’t finish the jumphook to his left. On the other end, he rejected dribble penetration badly in early offense to get a stop. Great job running the floor and Randle found him for the dunk. Another paint challenge and he sent another Nugget away with a block. Another shot alteration at the rim to get a miss. Second Half: He did not play in the second half.

Calderon -- -- Quiet night. He missed his only jumper and really didn’t need to orchestrate the offense a lot in this game because his unit was getting steals and turning that into transition hoops. He played just the first half in this one. The Stats: He didn’t score on 0-1 shooting and had 1 assist in 8 minutes. He was a +5. The Action: He missed an open wing jumper. Second Half: He did not play in the second half.

Robinson -- -- Ugly garbage time minutes. That’s when you want to see him do that garbage man work and turn hustle into impact and points. Not a lot of positive impact in this one. The Stats: He didn’t score on 0-1 shooting (0-2 from the line) to go with 1 board. He was a -14. The Action: He did not play in the first half. Second Half: He backed his man down and drew FTs on the jumphook, he missed both. He dribbled into the post and missed the short jumphook. He sank a leaning three after drawing contact and trying to get a 4-point play but the ball was still in his hands when time ran out, a good effort.

Young -- -- He started at SF in the second half. A couple of threes fell for him, which is more than we got from Metta. I don’t know if you can teach an old dog new tricks, but he’s not doing himself any favors by chucking contested shots. Make the extra pass every once in a while. Even though he made a couple of threes, the team seemed to lose its rhythm the longer he stayed out there. I’m not sure if the stats are right on him. I think he missed a shot they didn’t count. The Stats: He scored 6 points on 2-4 shooting (2-3 from three) to go with 1 board and 1 foul in 10 minutes. He was a -10. The Action: He did not play in the first half. Second Half: He knocked a pass off his man to get a stop. He missed a pull-up at the top of the key on the other end a few seconds later. He drained an open wing three in transition. He drained a three coming off the screens on the weakside. He missed a forced three, not the kind of shots we want. He clanked another three.

Brown -- -- He got a lot of minutes but had little impact in this one. He made just one shot, a drive. That last few minutes of the game weren’t exactly quality time. We had him in a lineup out there at the end of the first half that included Ingram briefly at the PF spot while Zubac manned the middle. That’s an interesting floor spacing lineup (if we can get both Ingram and Brown shooting like they should). Brown, unfortunately, played more like we’re used to seeing offensively tonight. The Stats: He scored 2 points on 1-5 shooting (0-2 from three) to go with 3 boards and 1 foul in 17 minutes. He was a -9. The Action: He missed the open wing three in transition. Nice challenge on iso D to force a miss. Not close on a runner. Second Half: He hesitated, dribbled, then missed the wing three. He attacked down the lane and finished the lefty layup after taking contact. He backed his man out and missed a layup.

Huertas -- -- He got the backup PG minutes in the second half and kept the team plugging along. He’s got more of a ball dominant approach than Calderon. Neither were spectacular tonight, although Huertas did look again for a lob to a teammate. I wish our other guards were a little more aware of that part of the game, especially with the bigs we have on this roster. Huertas scored just one bucket, an open wing jumper from the midrange. He had a nice steal in this game, recovering to his man and slapping a pass down. The Stats: He scored 2 points on 1-3 shooting to go with 2 boards, 3 assists, 1 steal and 1 foul in 10 minutes. He was a +0. The Action: He did not play in the first half. Second Half: He missed a runner. He attacked and fed Black down low for the score. He then pressured the inbounds pass and forced an inbounds violation. A little off on the lob to Nance but he somehow got it to go in. He lobbed to Ingram for his first hoop. He missed a runner. He slapped down a perimeter pass to ignite the break. He sank a pull-up in the open space off the screen on the right wing.

Jianlian -- -- He came in with 9:49 in the fourth for Black to play across Nance and then Robinson. Had he hit a couple more of shots, maybe the Lakers take this one. He was struggling from the perimeter. His one score was on a two-handed finish at the rim. Some better moments battling on the glass. The Stats: He scored 3 points on 1-6 shooting (0-2 from three, 1-2 from the line) to go with 4 boards, 1 assist and no fouls in 10 minutes. He was a -3. The Action: He did not play in the first half. Second Half: He missed a wide open 18-footer. Clarkson fed him on the break for FTs, he made one. Strong two-handed finish on the screen-roll with Clarkson. He missed a turnaround jumper. He was blocked from behind on a finish at the rim. He missed an open sideline three. He missed an open wing three.

Jacobs -- -- Ugly minutes. He had a nice attempt at a trackdown block in transition, but was called for a foul. That was the only notable part of his game. The Stats: He scored 3 points on 1-2 shooting (1-3 from the line) to go with 1 turnover and 1 foul in 6 minutes. The Action: He did not play in the first half. Second Half: Not close on a drive. He drew FTs on a drive and made one. Strong shotblock on the rundown but they called him for the foul. He wildly dribbled through a crowd and lost it out of bounds on the other end. Hesitation dribble and he scored the And-1 dunk, he missed the FT.

Wear -- -- Might have been a different outcome had he hit one of his threes. As it was, he just piled on to the poor Laker play in the final minutes. The Stats: He didn’t score on 0-2 shooting from three to go with 2 boards, 1 turnover and 1 foul in 6 minutes. He was a -10. The Action: He did not play in the first half. Second Half: He missed a wing three. He missed an open wing three.

Walton -- -- “It brought back a lot of really good memories,” Luke said walking into the locker room in Staples… With Deng out, he went to another vet at the SF, MWP to start, then young in the second half… Metta and Mozgov out for Ingram and Nance, Lakers down 5 midway through the quarter. Randle/Nance out there… Clarkson for Lou… Down 4, Calderon in for Russell with 3:33 left… Black in for Randle… Great job of this unit turning defense into offense. Guys getting into the passing lanes and making things happen… The Lakers lead 37-32 after the first quarter… He started the Black, Nance, Ingram, Clarkson, Calderon lineup… Up 3, Black and Ingram out for Mozgov and Brown… He sat Clarkson, Calderon and Nance for Randle, Russell and Lou, up by 1... Zubac in for Mozgov, Lakers up 1… Russell on a run and the Lakers took a 6-point lead to force a timeout… Zubac, Randle and Russell providing some fireworks and the Lakers pushed out to a 58-49 lead at the half… Wholesale change with Nance, Black, Clarkson and Huertas to go with Young, Lakers up 6. The rest of the lead quickly disappeared… Young out for Ingram. Young’s chucking wasn’t helping… The Lakers led 80-72 heading into the fourth… He started the same Nance, Black, Ingram, Clarkson, Huertas lineup… They got Ingram his first hoop on a lob dunk… Yi in for Black… Robinson in for Nance, up 10… Brown in for Clarkson, Lakers up 11 with 7 minutes left… Deep bench in now… A 13-1 Denver run against the garbage unit… The Lakers shot 10-30 from three and just 13-22 from the line… They gave up 15 offensive boards…
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2016 11:59 pm    Post subject:

Firstly, first.

What a game!! It portends so well for us going forward, omg. Like, we look like a real, competitive team. That game looked like we're going to win 30 games this year. Russell is definitely improved. Randle is taking baby steps to being unselfish and playing with more energy. Larry, Ingram, Clarkson, Mozgov, Deng - are going to be legit good defenders! We have a solid squad I can't believe it.

We have so much young talent it's crazy. Last game it looked like Larry's potential was showing through the roof, and Clarkson. And today Russell goes for 19 in a half! And Julius looks like a unicorn/grizzly bringing the ball up the court. Damn. Just wait 'til Ingram gets it going.

btw, Luke is the savior.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2016 12:10 am    Post subject:

Thanks DB!
Can't wait to see how this all plays out this season. I'm sure there will be frustrations and bad games but the potential is there. Watching the improvements will be fun.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2016 12:10 am    Post subject:

Thanks, DB. Must be fun for you to have so many interesting and promising young prospects to track and write about now, as opposed to some of the dreadful lineups we were forced to trot out the last few years - so glad the dark days are over...

What do you think the perfect starting line-up would be around DLo to bring the most out of his unique skillset? Obviously, Lou is a poor fit and hopefully a temporary experiment by Luke. But I also feel that Randle doesn't really mesh well with him and that starting unit as a whole. He would be better served coming off the bench where he has more freedom to handle the ball and more space to work with when Moz isn't clogging up the paint. A starting lineup of Moz/Nance/Deng/Clarkson/DLo seems inevitable at some point, in my mind. It would make the bench weaker, of course, but both units overall would be strengthened and make more sense fit-wise. Second string would be Black/Randle/Ingram/Lou (I pray that Brown can supplant him here)/Calderon.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2016 12:14 am    Post subject:

Love this team. Even though we took a L, there were loads of encouraging moments. The energy in the 1st 3 quarters was great.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2016 12:28 am    Post subject:

Thanks DB.

The improvement is visible from last year...now I hope Luke tries to move some of the players from the second group in the starting lineup.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2016 12:32 am    Post subject:

Luke already has completely turned this around. And our offense is going to look even better as we increase the practice time spent on it. I see 30 wins for sure.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2016 12:32 am    Post subject:

TheBlackMamba wrote:
Thanks, DB. Must be fun for you to have so many interesting and promising young prospects to track and write about now, as opposed to some of the dreadful lineups we were forced to trot out the last few years - so glad the dark days are over...

What do you think the perfect starting line-up would be around DLo to bring the most out of his unique skillset? Obviously, Lou is a poor fit and hopefully a temporary experiment by Luke. But I also feel that Randle doesn't really mesh well with him and that starting unit as a whole. He would be better served coming off the bench where he has more freedom to handle the ball and more space to work with when Moz isn't clogging up the paint. A starting lineup of Moz/Nance/Deng/Clarkson/DLo seems inevitable at some point, in my mind. It would make the bench weaker, of course, but both units overall would be strengthened and make more sense fit-wise. Second string would be Black/Randle/Ingram/Lou (I pray that Brown can supplant him here)/Calderon.


I want to see that lineup against another's team starting 5.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2016 12:49 am    Post subject:

Both units looked good tonight! I really would like to not see Lou and metta starting, however it is the preseason so experiment away Luke!
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2016 12:58 am    Post subject:

Thanks DB! Really appreciate the write-up.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2016 1:05 am    Post subject:

Thanks DB.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2016 1:14 am    Post subject:

DB's going to get a workout this season with the pace and all the activity.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2016 3:58 am    Post subject:

Thanks DB. I still can't believe you do what you do. This is obviously a ton of work and you never skip a beat. You are the BEST!!!!
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2016 4:01 am    Post subject:

I'm surprised to see the sad face in preseason DB

The banked 3 by Ingram was the play of the game for me the bench reaction was just awesome! The camaraderie between our young guys reminds me of the 09 team.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2016 5:01 am    Post subject:

You can definitely see a trend of progress.

The last few years we've been lying to ourselves when we saw zero progress in exhibition. We kept saying it was only exhibition and it wouldn't show until about 20 games in.

Everyone was lying to themselves. We all see the progress and change now. It's right there.


The Luke influence is real.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2016 5:14 am    Post subject:

DB, Yi's "surname" is Yi, not Jianlian

not like it matters much
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2016 6:10 am    Post subject:

Great write up DB! I hope the defensive improvement you mentioned is here to stay and not an early pre-season mirage is that is what was needed in my mind to make the team competitive this season.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2016 6:51 am    Post subject:

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Both units looked good tonight! I really would like to not see Lou and metta starting, however it is the preseason so experiment away Luke!

Hopefully next game we start to solidify line ups. It does feel like Luke wants jc off bench.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2016 8:30 am    Post subject:

We should have had Black or Zubac at the end, would have probably sealed the team with a win, but Luke probably knows what he's doing.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2016 8:45 am    Post subject:

Andre2K wrote:
I'm surprised to see the sad face in preseason DB


It's tradition if it's a loss. Even if we were just running some deep bench and not trying to get the W.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2016 8:46 am    Post subject:

Chronicle wrote:
DB, Yi's "surname" is Yi, not Jianlian

not like it matters much


Yeah, I just went off the box score...but probably should go off the jersey.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2016 8:48 am    Post subject:

Inspector Gadget wrote:
We should have had Black or Zubac at the end, would have probably sealed the team with a win, but Luke probably knows what he's doing.


He was just getting other guys some run.

I hope he tightens the lineups sooner rather than later. All these players adds another hour to my write up.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2016 9:03 am    Post subject:

TheBlackMamba wrote:
Thanks, DB. Must be fun for you to have so many interesting and promising young prospects to track and write about now, as opposed to some of the dreadful lineups we were forced to trot out the last few years - so glad the dark days are over...

What do you think the perfect starting line-up would be around DLo to bring the most out of his unique skillset? Obviously, Lou is a poor fit and hopefully a temporary experiment by Luke. But I also feel that Randle doesn't really mesh well with him and that starting unit as a whole. He would be better served coming off the bench where he has more freedom to handle the ball and more space to work with when Moz isn't clogging up the paint. A starting lineup of Moz/Nance/Deng/Clarkson/DLo seems inevitable at some point, in my mind. It would make the bench weaker, of course, but both units overall would be strengthened and make more sense fit-wise. Second string would be Black/Randle/Ingram/Lou (I pray that Brown can supplant him here)/Calderon.


I'd lean toward Nance and Clarkson being out there. But I want to see Julius play more like he did last night. If he can help set the tone with the pace early on that would be great. He's got to impose that on the game. I think his shot looks better, as well. The screen setting is improved, but still needs to be consistent. Defense has been much better.

I'll be curious to see what Luke goes to close tight games. Clarkson and Nance have been very disruptive on D in these first two. When it's on the line, that's what you need the most.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2016 9:35 am    Post subject:

DancingBarry wrote:
Inspector Gadget wrote:
We should have had Black or Zubac at the end, would have probably sealed the team with a win, but Luke probably knows what he's doing.


He was just getting other guys some run.

I hope he tightens the lineups sooner rather than later. All these players adds another hour to my write up.


That's preseason in a nutshell, I think the last 3-4 games is when most of the normal rotation players will start getting consistent burn.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2016 10:04 am    Post subject:

Halflife wrote:
22 wrote:
Both units looked good tonight! I really would like to not see Lou and metta starting, however it is the preseason so experiment away Luke!

Hopefully next game we start to solidify line ups. It does feel like Luke wants jc off bench.

Yeah it's starting to like like that might be a possibility. JC really brings it off the bench. But Lou starting is just so ....ugh
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