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| What is the Single Most Imperiled Right at Stake in 2016 Election? |
| Women's Rights? |
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9% |
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| Minority Rights? |
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9% |
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| LBGT Rights? |
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12% |
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| Voting Rights? |
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9% |
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| 2nd Amendment Rights? |
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18% |
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| 4th Amendment Rights? |
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0% |
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| Religious Rights? |
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3% |
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| Free Speech Rights? |
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6% |
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| Equal Justice Rights? |
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3% |
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| Adult entertainment Rights? |
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30% |
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Aussiesuede
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What is the Single Most Imperiled Right(s) at Stake in 2016 Election?
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| I'm not sure I see a legitimate threat to any of those rights. |
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Aussiesuede
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| JerryMagicKobe wrote: | | I'm not sure I see a legitimate threat to any of those rights. |
Think really hard about each. I guarantee you'll see a clear and present danger. 
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| I default to "Adult Entertainment." I just do. |
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| We need more condoms in porn. |
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Legacy
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| Shlumpledink wrote: | | We need more condoms in porn. |
I Move on to the next vid when I see a rubber.
I mean, I have a goal to achieve.
That's America! |
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| Legacy wrote: | | Shlumpledink wrote: | | We need more condoms in porn. |
I Move on to the next vid when I see a rubber.
I mean, I have a goal to achieve.
That's America! |
You don't like to be reminded of stds in your fantasies? |
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| Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2016 7:13 pm Post subject: |
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| Shlumpledink wrote: | | Legacy wrote: | | Shlumpledink wrote: | | We need more condoms in porn. |
I Move on to the next vid when I see a rubber.
I mean, I have a goal to achieve.
That's America! |
You don't like to be reminded of stds in your fantasies? |
I don't like anything impure in my private moments. I like to keep it, you know, classy. |
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| JerryMagicKobe wrote: | | I'm not sure I see a legitimate threat to any of those rights. |
With Pence on the ticket, there's an obvious threat to the rights of women and the LGBT community.
There's a very active threat to the reproductive rights of women that could gain even more traction under a Trump/Pence administration. Same sex marriage is very tenuous at the moment as well, and it will only get worse if the Right can gain control of the Presidency. Minority rights may be less under the gun, but they aren't likely to benefit and immigrant rights are certainly in the cross-hairs.
I'm stunned you can't see that. But I get it that when people aren't actually under threat, it's easy to dismiss that threat.
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| DaMuleRules wrote: | | JerryMagicKobe wrote: | | I'm not sure I see a legitimate threat to any of those rights. |
With Pence on the ticket, there's an obvious threat to the rights of women and the LGBT community.
There's a very active threat to the reproductive rights of women that could gain even more traction under a Trump/Pence administration. Same sex marriage is very tenuous at the moment as well, and it will only get worse if the Right can gain control of the Presidency. Minority rights may be less under the gun, but they aren't likely to benefit and immigrant rights are certainly in the cross-hairs.
I'm stunned you can't see that. But I get it that when people aren't actually under threat, it's easy to dismiss that threat. |
I see all of those rights expanding and getting stronger no matter who wins and what their hollow talking points were on the path to being elected to the single most over-rated position in politics. Politicians don't enact change, they try to keep up with a society that has already changed in an effort to get a vote. |
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Depending on which side you look at, these are the rights most at risk:
Women's rights (reproductive)
LGBTQ rights
2nd Amendment rights
Voting rights are under attack too but that's mostly happening at the state level.
4th Amendment is already under attack and nothing is going to improve on that angle from either side |
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| You guys found a way to make Pubic and Anus a voting option again. I don't mean the candidates, I mean like from two of the other polls already. |
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You left out the option to vote against an orange piggy.
Whoever wrote that bill has some serious agenda. California is actually one of the only states it's legal to film and produce porn.
Take the cinematic effect away and it's Utah.
One of the strangest propositions I've ever seen and the sponsorship is even stranger. |
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| JerryMagicKobe wrote: | | DaMuleRules wrote: | | JerryMagicKobe wrote: | | I'm not sure I see a legitimate threat to any of those rights. |
With Pence on the ticket, there's an obvious threat to the rights of women and the LGBT community.
There's a very active threat to the reproductive rights of women that could gain even more traction under a Trump/Pence administration. Same sex marriage is very tenuous at the moment as well, and it will only get worse if the Right can gain control of the Presidency. Minority rights may be less under the gun, but they aren't likely to benefit and immigrant rights are certainly in the cross-hairs.
I'm stunned you can't see that. But I get it that when people aren't actually under threat, it's easy to dismiss that threat. |
I see all of those rights expanding and getting stronger no matter who wins and what their hollow talking points were on the path to being elected to the single most over-rated position in politics. Politicians don't enact change, they try to keep up with a society that has already changed in an effort to get a vote. |
A supreme Court justice to the right of scalia can and might. Didn't think corporation are people was possible but they did it. Roe v Wade and LGBT rights are the 2 that I think are vulnerable |
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| JerryMagicKobe wrote: | | DaMuleRules wrote: | | JerryMagicKobe wrote: | | I'm not sure I see a legitimate threat to any of those rights. |
With Pence on the ticket, there's an obvious threat to the rights of women and the LGBT community.
There's a very active threat to the reproductive rights of women that could gain even more traction under a Trump/Pence administration. Same sex marriage is very tenuous at the moment as well, and it will only get worse if the Right can gain control of the Presidency. Minority rights may be less under the gun, but they aren't likely to benefit and immigrant rights are certainly in the cross-hairs.
I'm stunned you can't see that. But I get it that when people aren't actually under threat, it's easy to dismiss that threat. |
I see all of those rights expanding and getting stronger no matter who wins and what their hollow talking points were on the path to being elected to the single most over-rated position in politics. Politicians don't enact change, they try to keep up with a society that has already changed in an effort to get a vote. |
Often this is true, though it might be said, to not lose a vote as well. Case in point is the right to marry for gays. Obama (and Hillary for that matter) was not going out on a limb until the general public caught up to the progressive view on this.
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| DuncanIdaho wrote: | | 2nd Amendment rights |
I don't mean for this to get into a gun debate, but how are second amendment rights under fire? (Pardon the pun.)
I'd say we're way over on one side of the spectrum and OVER protecting second amendment rights, and could enact a lot of restrictions before we even get close to intruding on them. |
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Question #1:
What is the definition of a Democracy?
Question #2:
How are Republicans combating the shift in American Demographics which don't work in their favor?
Question #3:
If Republicans are successful in their efforts to combat shifting demographics with Question #2, what is the probable effect on Question #1?
Question #4:
What effect does the Supreme Court have in regards to how Question #1 relates to Questions #2 & #3?
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| It's not listed, but I think if Hillary is elected we're most at risk of being forced to provide quarters for ISIS soldiers in our own households. |
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| LarryCoon wrote: | | DuncanIdaho wrote: | | 2nd Amendment rights |
I don't mean for this to get into a gun debate, but how are second amendment rights under fire? (Pardon the pun.)
I'd say we're way over on one side of the spectrum and OVER protecting second amendment rights, and could enact a lot of restrictions before we even get close to intruding on them. |
I think your statement says it all. |
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| Adult entertainment rights? Who brought that up? |
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| vanexelent wrote: | | It's not listed, but I think if Hillary is elected we're most at risk of being forced to provide quarters for ISIS soldiers in our own households. |
Not in MY house!
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| dont_be_a_wuss wrote: | | vanexelent wrote: | | It's not listed, but I think if Hillary is elected we're most at risk of being forced to provide quarters for ISIS soldiers in our own households. |
Not in MY house!
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| Reflexx wrote: | | LarryCoon wrote: | | DuncanIdaho wrote: | | 2nd Amendment rights |
I don't mean for this to get into a gun debate, but how are second amendment rights under fire? (Pardon the pun.)
I'd say we're way over on one side of the spectrum and OVER protecting second amendment rights, and could enact a lot of restrictions before we even get close to intruding on them. |
I think your statement says it all. |
Someone's statement says it all, but it ain't LC's ... the fear-industrial complex that has engulfed this nation and emboldened so many 2A chickenhawks into a hysteric frenzy re: their inalienable gun rights is the problem here, not lucid questions re: the reality of the situation. Take that to the bank ...
And to drive home a finer point: pray tell, exactly who in the (bleep) is actually restricted (or prevented in any meaningful way) at this time from acquiring and accumulating as many firearms and as much ammunition as they would like to in this nation? Convicted felons, right? Individuals with domestic violence backgrounds, right? Individuals who live in certain confined urban areas, right? I don't get it. What's your specific objection to those limits, or any proposed limits? You want those with serious mental health issues (SMI) to have access to firearms? You want private citizens to have the unencumbered right to build an arsenal of any size without public safety officials having any knowledge re: what they might be dealing with in a potentially dangerous situation (e.g., during a domestic violence call resulting from physical violence, which occurs roughly 29,000 times each day in the U.S.)?
So again, I ask ... what exactly is the (bleep) problem? Your answer to this simple question will establish exactly how "at risk" gun rights are in our evolving legislative climate. The false narratives peddled by Wayne LaPierre and his ilk are just that ... false narratives.
Personally, I believe I already know the answer ... nobody is actually barred from acquiring and accumulating whatever they (bleep) want to at this time. It's never been easier. As for me, I don't need firearms to soothe a weak personal constitution. Hunting is one thing. Protecting one's home is another thing? But trying to foment rebellion or fend off overreach by the federal government? Really? I have seen and heard from too many individuals with bona fide arsenals in their homes right now. More firearms and ammunition than a single person could possibly consume in a lifetime ...
Actually, I'll take it a step (or fifty) further past LC's inquiry ... why are all of the rugged tough guys who bellyache about their right to bear arms so frightened of 2A discussions? If anything, the trend toward more firearms and ammunition (not less) over the past fifty years has enabled all of these chickenhawks to sleep more soundly, right? But how many firearms are really enough? And how much ammunition is really enough?
FFS, people need to stop living in such profound fear that their guns are at risk of being taken away ... the truth is, nobody is actually going for their guns. However, trust and believe, if the federal government does decide to come for your guns in the future, it's a wrap ... your probability of resisting and surviving is exactly 0.0% ... in the meantime, give it a rest and just regale us with more stories re: how Duterte is a noble hero for his extrajudicial killing programs. |
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lol @ 2nd amendment rights winning...
Dang libs gun take 'way mah guns |
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