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PostPosted: Fri Oct 21, 2016 8:47 pm    Post subject:

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No one on this team is good enough to "start" in an NBA game (yet). Good thing is our bench outperforms the second unit of most other teams on a good night.

Clearly Mozgov, Deng, and Russell are good enough to start in an NBA game.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 21, 2016 8:47 pm    Post subject:

Observations from preseason.

1. Randle's lack of shooting is hurting the spacing in the offense. Deng or Nance needs to start at PF.

2. Clarkson should be starting alongside Russell and one should always be on the court. Clarkson was a 40% 3pt shooter with Russell on the court.

3. Luke has to shorten his rotation. I don't want to see Young or Lou unless it's limited minutes or someone's in foul trouble.
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Dave20 wrote:
Observations from preseason.

1. Randle's lack of shooting is hurting the spacing in the offense. Deng or Nance needs to start at PF.

2. Clarkson should be starting alongside Russell and one should always be on the court. Clarkson was a 40% 3pt shooter with Russell on the court.

3. Luke has to shorten his rotation. I don't want to see Young or Lou unless it's limited minutes or someone's in foul trouble.

Umm, you want JC to play 48 mpg then?
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 21, 2016 8:50 pm    Post subject:

Lakers had a lot of players not playing enough to built chemistry, Lakers will finally let it all out with everyone playing and Luke not changing rotations for TC fodders..

Lakers get a B- for there preseason performance.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 21, 2016 8:50 pm    Post subject:

Dave20 wrote:
Observations from preseason.

1. Randle's lack of shooting is hurting the spacing in the offense. Deng or Nance needs to start at PF.

2. Clarkson should be starting alongside Russell and one should always be on the court. Clarkson was a 40% 3pt shooter with Russell on the court.

3. Luke has to shorten his rotation. I don't want to see Young or Lou unless it's limited minutes or someone's in foul trouble.


Dave, I try to support you, but man you just made a 3 point list to basically say you think Clarkson should play the whole game and shoot most of the shots.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 21, 2016 8:51 pm    Post subject:

Baron Von Humongous wrote:
Dave20 wrote:
Observations from preseason.

1. Randle's lack of shooting is hurting the spacing in the offense. Deng or Nance needs to start at PF.

2. Clarkson should be starting alongside Russell and one should always be on the court. Clarkson was a 40% 3pt shooter with Russell on the court.

3. Luke has to shorten his rotation. I don't want to see Young or Lou unless it's limited minutes or someone's in foul trouble.

Umm, you want JC to play 48 mpg then?


More like, Clarkson should get all the shots while he is playing, and when he is taking a breather, everyone one the floor should just defend so that Clarkson can come back and take the rest of the shots.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 21, 2016 8:52 pm    Post subject:

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Baron Von Humongous wrote:
Dave20 wrote:
Observations from preseason.

1. Randle's lack of shooting is hurting the spacing in the offense. Deng or Nance needs to start at PF.

2. Clarkson should be starting alongside Russell and one should always be on the court. Clarkson was a 40% 3pt shooter with Russell on the court.

3. Luke has to shorten his rotation. I don't want to see Young or Lou unless it's limited minutes or someone's in foul trouble.

Umm, you want JC to play 48 mpg then?


More like, Clarkson should get all the shots while he is playing, and when he is taking a breather, everyone one the floor should just defend so that Clarkson can come back and take the rest of the shots.


Ok this made me but let's take it easy on Dave. He just cares a lot.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 21, 2016 8:54 pm    Post subject:

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Luke looks like he wants to smack Trudell


who doesn't?


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 21, 2016 8:56 pm    Post subject:

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Luke's saying he's not happy about the starting unit. Uh yeah.
Of course he's not. He needs to bench Randle and Lou and will start to see better ball movement.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 21, 2016 8:57 pm    Post subject:

adkindo wrote:
Dave20 wrote:
Observations from preseason.

1. Randle's lack of shooting is hurting the spacing in the offense. Deng or Nance needs to start at PF.

2. Clarkson should be starting alongside Russell and one should always be on the court. Clarkson was a 40% 3pt shooter with Russell on the court.

3. Luke has to shorten his rotation. I don't want to see Young or Lou unless it's limited minutes or someone's in foul trouble.


Dave, I try to support you, but man you just made a 3 point list to basically say you think Clarkson should play the whole game and shoot most of the shots.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 21, 2016 9:01 pm    Post subject:

Baron Von Humongous wrote:
Dave20 wrote:
Observations from preseason.

1. Randle's lack of shooting is hurting the spacing in the offense. Deng or Nance needs to start at PF.

2. Clarkson should be starting alongside Russell and one should always be on the court. Clarkson was a 40% 3pt shooter with Russell on the court.

3. Luke has to shorten his rotation. I don't want to see Young or Lou unless it's limited minutes or someone's in foul trouble.

Umm, you want JC to play 48 mpg then?
I want Russell and Clarkson to play 32-34 mins a game. So tired of seeing Huertas, Lou, and Young being primary ball handling. The 1st wing off the bench should be Ingram. Luke doesn't know what he's doing with the rotations.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 21, 2016 9:02 pm    Post subject:

Watched on a rather brittle livestream connection and didn't post all game... Good comeback after sucking badly for a while.

Glad it was preseason. No way around it we're going to look sloppy more often than not early this season. Still, there are some competitors on this squad.

We'll see who the final cuts are. It'll hurt me to see it if TRob gets cut, speaking of competitors. Dang he fights hard for the ball down low.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 21, 2016 9:07 pm    Post subject:

ireland with that goofy question at the end smh
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 21, 2016 9:10 pm    Post subject:

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ireland with that goofy question at the end smh


What did he ask?
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 21, 2016 9:11 pm    Post subject:

adkindo wrote:
Dave20 wrote:
Observations from preseason.

1. Randle's lack of shooting is hurting the spacing in the offense. Deng or Nance needs to start at PF.

2. Clarkson should be starting alongside Russell and one should always be on the court. Clarkson was a 40% 3pt shooter with Russell on the court.

3. Luke has to shorten his rotation. I don't want to see Young or Lou unless it's limited minutes or someone's in foul trouble.


Dave, I try to support you, but man you just made a 3 point list to basically say you think Clarkson should play the whole game and shoot most of the shots.
He should at least get the 2nd most shots. Throughout preseason Young and Lou has been given the green light by Luke and it's a mistake. I want to see Clarkson and Russell play like they were last year when both was scoring 20+.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 21, 2016 9:21 pm    Post subject:

Baron Von Humongous wrote:
Gatekeeper wrote:
No one on this team is good enough to "start" in an NBA game (yet). Good thing is our bench outperforms the second unit of most other teams on a good night.

Clearly Mozgov, Deng, and Russell are good enough to start in an NBA game.


All three are par/below-par considering other starters in the league. There isn't a single stand out who can cut it besides D'lo who's by and large an inconsistent performer.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 21, 2016 9:32 pm    Post subject:

Dave20 wrote:
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Dave20 wrote:
Observations from preseason.

1. Randle's lack of shooting is hurting the spacing in the offense. Deng or Nance needs to start at PF.

2. Clarkson should be starting alongside Russell and one should always be on the court. Clarkson was a 40% 3pt shooter with Russell on the court.

3. Luke has to shorten his rotation. I don't want to see Young or Lou unless it's limited minutes or someone's in foul trouble.


Dave, I try to support you, but man you just made a 3 point list to basically say you think Clarkson should play the whole game and shoot most of the shots.
He should at least get the 2nd most shots. Throughout preseason Young and Lou has been given the green light by Luke and it's a mistake. I want to see Clarkson and Russell play like they were last year when both was scoring 20+.

I don't get how you can say that it's a mistake given how good Young has been.
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No one on this team is good enough to "start" in an NBA game (yet). Good thing is our bench outperforms the second unit of most other teams on a good night.

Clearly Mozgov, Deng, and Russell are good enough to start in an NBA game.


All three are par/below-par considering other starters in the league. There isn't a single stand out who can cut it besides D'lo who's by and large an inconsistent performer.

I don't know what Moz and Deng will do this season, but Luol was 62nd in RPM last season and Timofey was 48th in RPM when he was last healthy in 2014-15. Given that there are around 440 players who earn regular season minutes around the league, I'd say that they've both been decidedly above par in recent seasons.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 21, 2016 9:39 pm    Post subject:

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adkindo wrote:
Dave20 wrote:
Observations from preseason.

1. Randle's lack of shooting is hurting the spacing in the offense. Deng or Nance needs to start at PF.

2. Clarkson should be starting alongside Russell and one should always be on the court. Clarkson was a 40% 3pt shooter with Russell on the court.

3. Luke has to shorten his rotation. I don't want to see Young or Lou unless it's limited minutes or someone's in foul trouble.


Dave, I try to support you, but man you just made a 3 point list to basically say you think Clarkson should play the whole game and shoot most of the shots.
He should at least get the 2nd most shots. Throughout preseason Young and Lou has been given the green light by Luke and it's a mistake. I want to see Clarkson and Russell play like they were last year when both was scoring 20+.

I don't get how you can say that it's a mistake given how good Young has been.
He was bricking shots tonight and the shots he was taking weren't good shots. I like him better than Lou, but his minutes should be limited.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 21, 2016 9:43 pm    Post subject:

Dave20 wrote:
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Dave20 wrote:
adkindo wrote:
Dave20 wrote:
Observations from preseason.

1. Randle's lack of shooting is hurting the spacing in the offense. Deng or Nance needs to start at PF.

2. Clarkson should be starting alongside Russell and one should always be on the court. Clarkson was a 40% 3pt shooter with Russell on the court.

3. Luke has to shorten his rotation. I don't want to see Young or Lou unless it's limited minutes or someone's in foul trouble.


Dave, I try to support you, but man you just made a 3 point list to basically say you think Clarkson should play the whole game and shoot most of the shots.
He should at least get the 2nd most shots. Throughout preseason Young and Lou has been given the green light by Luke and it's a mistake. I want to see Clarkson and Russell play like they were last year when both was scoring 20+.

I don't get how you can say that it's a mistake given how good Young has been.
He was bricking shots tonight and the shots he was taking weren't good shots. I like him better than Lou, but his minutes should be limited.

It was one game after multiple good ones and his still played good defense. That would be like me saying Luke should play Clarkson less because he has been struggling.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 21, 2016 9:52 pm    Post subject:

I'm surprised no one has started the Houston game thread.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 21, 2016 10:24 pm    Post subject:

Dave20 wrote:
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Luke's saying he's not happy about the starting unit. Uh yeah.
Of course he's not. He needs to bench Randle and Lou and will start to see better ball movement.


Yeah, or at least one of them. Though my concern is more on the defensive end.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 21, 2016 11:56 pm    Post subject:

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ireland with that goofy question at the end smh


What did he ask?


*3 hrs later*

he asked thomas robinson if he thinks he's did enough to make the team

robinson face was like c'mon breh
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 22, 2016 1:18 am    Post subject:

When you have 23 turnovers, and shoot 25% from 3 point range, you probably aren't going to beat anyone.

The turnovers have been horrible this preseason. That's one thing with Luke that concerns me. Kerr/Luke were very lax last year when the Warriors would turn the ball over because they knew they had enough talent to make up for it. Luke needs to tighten the reins on the Lakers because they don't have the talent to make up for mistakes.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 22, 2016 4:52 am    Post subject:

Obviously we are not going to be world-beaters but the team's defensive intensity was pretty decent last night.
Overall the team has shown some improvement heading into the regular season. We need more time and talent.
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