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MJST Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2016 2:48 pm Post subject: Byron Scott says if Jim Buss was good at his job, he'd still be the Head Coach |
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Outside The Lines ✔ @OTLonESPN
Former @Lakers coach Byron Scott’s thoughts on Jim Buss as EVP of basketball operations...
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvUUrdZXYAAJabw.jpg
Can a mod please 'pretty up' that image if you have the time? we need evidence of this kind of blatant denial and undeserved arrogance.
Don't know whether to be beside myself, or sick.
For the record, this is the full quote.
"I think he's done okay. I would be sitting here lying to you if I said I think he's done a great job, because I think if he'd done a great job, I'd still be there."
You know... Every time you try to give this guy any benefit of the doubt, to at least say 'well I hated him as a coach, but I loved him as a player and he's still a Laker'.... but this kind of petty childish [expletive] is precisely why he does NOT have a job in the NBA and could never keep one as a 'Coach'. I've got no words left for this man.
Just... there it is. Enjoy. |
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Plaza234 Star Player
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Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2016 2:54 pm Post subject: |
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He's not wrong. I'm sure there's a team out there that would be talented enough to make it Byron-Proof. He did make it to two consecutive NBA Finals.
What has Jim Buss done? |
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KindCrippler2000 Franchise Player
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Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2016 2:54 pm Post subject: |
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Even if it were true, wouldn't some team have hired Byron? Hell, D'Antoni and Nate McMillan, two former washouts, were hired for some teams. Byron's ego is only surpassed by his tanking skills. |
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Hector the Pup Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2016 2:56 pm Post subject: |
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Plaza234 wrote: | He's not wrong. I'm sure there's a team out there that would be talented enough to make it Byron-Proof. He did make it to two consecutive NBA Finals.
What has Jim Buss done? |
Worst mistake Jim made was okaying the hiring of Byron. Dude could have been coaching the original dream team and he would still make them look like they were playing in the 1940's. |
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Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2016 2:57 pm Post subject: |
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Byron Scott is quickly making sure that he becomes hated in LA and makes his past Laker connection to disappear. |
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Plaza234 Star Player
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Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2016 3:00 pm Post subject: |
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Hector the Pup wrote: | Plaza234 wrote: | He's not wrong. I'm sure there's a team out there that would be talented enough to make it Byron-Proof. He did make it to two consecutive NBA Finals.
What has Jim Buss done? |
Worst mistake Jim made was okaying the hiring of Byron. Dude could have been coaching the original dream team and he would still make them look like they were playing in the 1940's. |
Again, Byron took the New Jersey Nets (who have traditionally been a crap franchise) to back-back NBA Finals.
He was in a no-win situation in Cleveland and LA. New Orleans was just an average NBA tenure.
People thinking this guy is like the worst coach ever, again, are going to get a rude awakening this year when their chosen one Luke Walton loses a ton of games too.
It's the talent. And talent acquisition is all on Jim Buss. |
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Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2016 3:02 pm Post subject: |
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"Byron Scott says if Jim Buss was good at his job, he'd still be the Head Coach"
by the same measure, if Byron had been good at his job Jeannie wouldn't have been talking about having to fire Jimbo and Mitch.
kind of a two way street there _________________ LBJ + AD = More rings
Never argue with a fool - listeners can't tell you apart
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Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2016 3:05 pm Post subject: |
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GO AWAY BYRON |
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Hector the Pup Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2016 3:06 pm Post subject: |
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Plaza234 wrote: | Hector the Pup wrote: | Plaza234 wrote: | He's not wrong. I'm sure there's a team out there that would be talented enough to make it Byron-Proof. He did make it to two consecutive NBA Finals.
What has Jim Buss done? |
Worst mistake Jim made was okaying the hiring of Byron. Dude could have been coaching the original dream team and he would still make them look like they were playing in the 1940's. |
Again, Byron took the New Jersey Nets (who have traditionally been a crap franchise) to back-back NBA Finals.
He was in a no-win situation in Cleveland and LA. New Orleans was just an average NBA tenure.
People thinking this guy is like the worst coach ever, again, are going to get a rude awakening this year when their chosen one Luke Walton loses a ton of games too.
It's the talent. And talent acquisition is all on Jim Buss. |
I'm not getting into it with someone who clearly doesn't recognize how archaic Byron's coaching abilities are. Hell, even Naismith would have called what he was doing out of date. |
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KindCrippler2000 Franchise Player
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Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2016 3:10 pm Post subject: |
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Plaza234 wrote: | Hector the Pup wrote: | Plaza234 wrote: | He's not wrong. I'm sure there's a team out there that would be talented enough to make it Byron-Proof. He did make it to two consecutive NBA Finals.
What has Jim Buss done? |
Worst mistake Jim made was okaying the hiring of Byron. Dude could have been coaching the original dream team and he would still make them look like they were playing in the 1940's. |
Again, Byron took the New Jersey Nets (who have traditionally been a crap franchise) to back-back NBA Finals.
He was in a no-win situation in Cleveland and LA. New Orleans was just an average NBA tenure.
People thinking this guy is like the worst coach ever, again, are going to get a rude awakening this year when their chosen one Luke Walton loses a ton of games too.
It's the talent. And talent acquisition is all on Jim Buss. |
A bit of revisionist history if you will... Jason Kidd mutiny'd him for Lawrence Frank, who was thought to be the true architect of those Nets teams. That being said, the discrepancy in those finals series should tell you everything you need to know about the eastern conference during those years. It's also not too often that you get a prime Jason Kidd leading your team. |
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Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2016 3:13 pm Post subject: |
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Plaza234 wrote: | He's not wrong. I'm sure there's a team out there that would be talented enough to make it Byron-Proof. He did make it to two consecutive NBA Finals.
What has Jim Buss done? |
Wasup Byron? |
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The Logo Star Player
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Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2016 3:14 pm Post subject: |
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Not the biggest Jim Buss fan in the world but can this guy stop making excuses for himself? |
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lakersfever714 Franchise Player
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Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2016 3:15 pm Post subject: |
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Byron Salt _________________ LeGoat! LeMazing! LeGend! |
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Nnamdi21 Star Player
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Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2016 3:31 pm Post subject: |
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If Byron was handed the 2015 warriors squad, they'd finish with 55 wins. |
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laker4life Star Player
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Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2016 3:32 pm Post subject: |
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Plaza234 wrote: | Hector the Pup wrote: | Plaza234 wrote: | He's not wrong. I'm sure there's a team out there that would be talented enough to make it Byron-Proof. He did make it to two consecutive NBA Finals.
What has Jim Buss done? |
Worst mistake Jim made was okaying the hiring of Byron. Dude could have been coaching the original dream team and he would still make them look like they were playing in the 1940's. |
Again, Byron took the New Jersey Nets (who have traditionally been a crap franchise) to back-back NBA Finals.
He was in a no-win situation in Cleveland and LA. New Orleans was just an average NBA tenure.
People thinking this guy is like the worst coach ever, again, are going to get a rude awakening this year when their chosen one Luke Walton loses a ton of games too.
It's the talent. And talent acquisition is all on Jim Buss. |
You are right. It is all about the talent.
Let's see how good the players are before we bury them. |
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Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2016 3:36 pm Post subject: |
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Worst Laker coach ever.
Would like for him to fade away so I can remember him fondly for his Showtime days. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2016 3:37 pm Post subject: |
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i don't think you guys know what this is really about. |
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nickuku Star Player
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Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2016 3:40 pm Post subject: |
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SuperboyReformed wrote: | i don't think you guys know what this is really about. |
You'd be the last to know what anything is about. _________________ Don't let perfect be the enemy of good |
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Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2016 3:41 pm Post subject: |
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The Lakers have been gracious towards Byron since letting him go. They were fools if they thought a person of his character would respond in kind. _________________ 14-5-3-12 |
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Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2016 3:42 pm Post subject: |
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SuperboyReformed wrote: | i don't think you guys know what this is really about. |
Oh, please enlighten us! |
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Ziggy Franchise Player
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Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2016 3:46 pm Post subject: |
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What's he supposed to say? "Jim has been amazing as an owner and that includes his decision to fire me!"
Water is wet, sky is blue, Byron has a massive ego. |
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Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2016 3:47 pm Post subject: |
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(bleep) this guy. Straight up |
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saetarubia Star Player
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Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2016 3:49 pm Post subject: |
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Plaza234 wrote: | He's not wrong. I'm sure there's a team out there that would be talented enough to make it Byron-Proof. He did make it to two consecutive NBA Finals.
What has Jim Buss done? |
How often do we see vetoed CP3, Dwight-esue trades in NBA? You can't acquire talent without assets. Jim's fault lies in coaching hires like Brown, MDA and Byron.
As for draft choices, we will know how good/bad they were in due time. No one expects Luke to turn it around in a year either. When the likes of Durant and Curry spent multiple years in lottery, who'd expect instant results anyway? Young players won't develop overnight. Byron is an archaic, stubborn coach who's all words(like his defense preaching) so had to go. _________________ Showtime 2.0 |
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Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2016 3:59 pm Post subject: |
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Plaza234 wrote: | He's not wrong. I'm sure there's a team out there that would be talented enough to make it Byron-Proof. He did make it to two consecutive NBA Finals.
What has Jim Buss done? |
Yeah, maybe if you stick Byron as the Warriors head coach. Or the Cavs, LeBron can do the coaching for him.
Byron doesn't even make it to the Finals with the Warriors last year (OKC beats them).
And what has Jim Buss done? He's pivoted the team from one that all in to Kobe (who then tore his Achilles) to having a core of Ingram, Russell, Clarkson, Nance, Randle, etc. He's had some luck in getting there, but then again he also had the luck of the veto, of Kobe's Achilles tearing, etc... so I suppose it goes both ways.
But hey, get in your hate before the team's ascendant trajectory becomes undeniable. It'll make #receipts all the more satisfying. |
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