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PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2016 6:21 pm    Post subject: who are the me-first players on this team?

just my opnion but here's the list:

lou villians - only drawing fouls. will pass up open shots to draw freethrows. ruins the flow of the game, takes stupid shots, doesn't pass the ball to anyone and is too slow and small to defend any player.

nick young - i don't care about him. he can get going, but is a detriment when he doesn't swing the ball.

jordan clarksen - is shooting 39% for the second unit. doesn't swing the ball and takes the worst shots i've ever seen. is prone to being blocked and has no arc on his shot.

junior randall - randall is my boy but he doesn't set good picks. does he think he's above everyone?

what are ur toughts?
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2016 6:29 pm    Post subject:

Who the hell is Junior Randall?
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2016 6:33 pm    Post subject:

randall is in his third season so that makes him junior
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2016 6:38 pm    Post subject:

Denny_Russo wrote:
randall is in his third season so that makes him junior


Um, what high school does he play for?
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2016 6:40 pm    Post subject:

I think Zach Auguste....dude thought he was too good to even play in the preseason.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2016 6:44 pm    Post subject:

I think it's a little to early to make a prediction like this

check back in a month or so, and lets see how many are buying into the offensive philosophy
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2016 7:00 pm    Post subject:

The Brain wrote:
Denny_Russo wrote:
randall is in his third season so that makes him junior


Um, what high school does he play for?


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2016 7:01 pm    Post subject:

Russell usage is almost Kobe level last time I saw it.

Sometimes it looks like Julius has the ball a lot just because he holds it a bit too much here and there, but overall he is not a featured player.

Huertas just like Russell is another player with the ball in his hands a lot.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2016 7:06 pm    Post subject:

Russell is pretty me-first, which is not necessarily a bad thing. I think he was way too passive last year. He needs to find that right combination of scoring and creating good looks for his team mates just like CP3
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2016 8:18 pm    Post subject:

nash wrote:
Russell usage is almost Kobe level last time I saw it.

Sometimes it looks like Julius has the ball a lot just because he holds it a bit too much here and there, but overall he is not a featured player.

Huertas just like Russell is another player with the ball in his hands a lot.


With hardly any other playmakers to rely on in halfcourt sets, and with Deng out even, their high usage rate isn't surprising. The formula for usage involves shots and free throws attempted, along with turnovers, if I'm not mistaken.

Last year Kobe and Dlo averaged 4-5 assists apiece, who will be #2 in assists? If its Huertas or Calderon, this team probably won't avoid 60 losses. Ideally, someone who starts alongside Dlo would be #2 in assists, otherwise his usage will be very high for this type of offense. Which is not at all the goal of this offense.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2016 8:48 pm    Post subject:

Sorry dude, but I have no idea who Villians, Clarksen, or Junior Randall are.

At least you got Nick Young right, so 1 out of 4 isn't all that bad...

But to answer your question, it seems like there are plenty of people with something to prove in this team, whether being young and inexperienced, or just trying to make a roster spot. So we are quite heavy on people looking for their own shot. Which is understandable. I would say our #1 ball stopper though, is Lou Williams.

Hopefully, when people settle in, and the system is more in place, we will see more ball movement, with the open player taking the best shot.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2016 8:57 pm    Post subject:

Denny_Russo wrote:
randall is in his third season so that makes him junior




In before but this post has my seal of approval. Looks like people are taking it seriously.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2016 9:59 pm    Post subject:

Seriously, what kind of thread is this? And why do you have a picture of Yi in a tank top, flexing?

And why is MWP taking his blouse off in that avatar, what the heck is going on here?
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2016 10:16 pm    Post subject:

The Brain wrote:
Seriously, what kind of thread is this? And why do you have a picture of Yi in a tank top, flexing?

And why is MWP taking his blouse off in that avatar, what the heck is going on here?


Think that's from his short lived r&b career.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2016 10:30 pm    Post subject:

Jewelious Randalle, Denzel Russell, and Blordan Blarkson
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2016 10:33 pm    Post subject:

The Brain wrote:
Seriously, what kind of thread is this? And why do you have a picture of Yi in a tank top, flexing?

And why is MWP taking his blouse off in that avatar, what the heck is going on here?

i'd say we have more fans on this board other than strictly male heteros. but i may be wrong.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2016 10:43 pm    Post subject:

SuperboyReformed wrote:
The Brain wrote:
Seriously, what kind of thread is this? And why do you have a picture of Yi in a tank top, flexing?

And why is MWP taking his blouse off in that avatar, what the heck is going on here?

i'd say we have more fans on this board other than strictly male heteros. but i may be wrong.



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2016 10:46 pm    Post subject:

The Brain wrote:
Seriously, what kind of thread is this? And why do you have a picture of Yi in a tank top, flexing?

And why is MWP taking his blouse off in that avatar, what the heck is going on here?


Men don't wear a blouse...they wear a shirt.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2016 10:51 pm    Post subject:

kobe_luver wrote:
The Brain wrote:
Seriously, what kind of thread is this? And why do you have a picture of Yi in a tank top, flexing?

And why is MWP taking his blouse off in that avatar, what the heck is going on here?


Men don't wear a blouse...they wear a shirt.


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2016 11:02 pm    Post subject:

nash wrote:
Russell usage is almost Kobe level last time I saw it.

Sometimes it looks like Julius has the ball a lot just because he holds it a bit too much here and there, but overall he is not a featured player.

Huertas just like Russell is another player with the ball in his hands a lot.


In before the lock, but you do know that DLo posted a 27.4 USG% in preseason, which would be lower than any USG% Kobe posted outside of his 1st, 3rd, and 4th seasons (on much better teams than the current Lakers)? You do know that Kobe has a career 31.8 USG%, right? You do know how significant a difference it is between 27.4 and 31.8 when discussing USG%, no?


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2016 11:03 pm    Post subject:

fiendishoc wrote:
kobe_luver wrote:
The Brain wrote:
Seriously, what kind of thread is this? And why do you have a picture of Yi in a tank top, flexing?

And why is MWP taking his blouse off in that avatar, what the heck is going on here?


Men don't wear a blouse...they wear a shirt.


https://media.giphy.com/media/d9ltR6odFmQsE/giphy.gif

Thanks, fiendishoc, now I want some pancakes...
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2016 11:07 pm    Post subject:

Baron Von Humongous wrote:
fiendishoc wrote:
kobe_luver wrote:
The Brain wrote:
Seriously, what kind of thread is this? And why do you have a picture of Yi in a tank top, flexing?

And why is MWP taking his blouse off in that avatar, what the heck is going on here?


Men don't wear a blouse...they wear a shirt.


https://media.giphy.com/media/d9ltR6odFmQsE/giphy.gif

Thanks, fiendishoc, now I want some pancakes...


and grapes....... (bleep).
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2016 1:22 am    Post subject:

Baron Von Humongous wrote:
nash wrote:
Russell usage is almost Kobe level last time I saw it.

Sometimes it looks like Julius has the ball a lot just because he holds it a bit too much here and there, but overall he is not a featured player.

Huertas just like Russell is another player with the ball in his hands a lot.


In before the lock, but you do know that DLo posted a 27.4 USG% in preseason, which would be lower than any USG% Kobe posted outside of his 1st, 3rd, and 4th seasons (on much better teams than the current Lakers)? You do know that Kobe has a career 31.8 USG%, right? You do know how significant a difference it is between 27.4 and 31.8 when discussing USG%, no?


For the statistically uninclined, 4% would be one more use per 25 team possessions, at most, si?
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2016 1:56 pm    Post subject:

lou, swag, randle, clarkson. too many really
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2016 1:58 pm    Post subject:

i am actually lol-ing at "lou villains"
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