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Who you got after Fultz?
Lonzo Ball
75%
 75%  [ 315 ]
Josh Jackson
15%
 15%  [ 64 ]
Jayson Tatum
1%
 1%  [ 8 ]
De'Aaron Fox
4%
 4%  [ 20 ]
Malik Monk
1%
 1%  [ 5 ]
Jonathan Isaac
0%
 0%  [ 4 ]
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PostPosted: Mon May 22, 2017 11:47 am    Post subject:

epak wrote:
http://www.nba.com/lakers/video/teams/lakers/2017/05/22/1495481763690-170522kuzma-kyle-1436411

Ben Simm... er Kyle Kuzma post workout interview.


I thought you were talking about playing style, but I clicked on the link and soon realized what you meant... lol
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PostPosted: Mon May 22, 2017 11:50 am    Post subject:

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Tania Ganguli‏Verified account @taniaganguli 58m58 minutes ago
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Jordan Clarkson, Ivica Zubac, Larry Nance Jr. and D'Angelo Russell out here practicing after the draft workout.

Tania Ganguli‏Verified account @taniaganguli 55m55 minutes ago
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Brandon Ingram sighting!


Randle must be working out behind an El Pollo Loco again...
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Watching workouts: Magic, Rob, Luke, Joey & Jesse Buss, Ryan West, Bill Bertka, Brian Shaw. Saw D'Angelo Russell hovering around earlier.

https://twitter.com/taniaganguli/status/866715010373787648

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PostPosted: Mon May 22, 2017 12:02 pm    Post subject:

AFireInside619 wrote:
MJST wrote:
Tania Ganguli‏Verified account @taniaganguli 58m58 minutes ago
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Jordan Clarkson, Ivica Zubac, Larry Nance Jr. and D'Angelo Russell out here practicing after the draft workout.

Tania Ganguli‏Verified account @taniaganguli 55m55 minutes ago
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Brandon Ingram sighting!


Randle must be working out behind an El Pollo Loco again...


Randle is there too. All our draft picks the last 3 years minus Brown are there today.
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PostPosted: Mon May 22, 2017 12:05 pm    Post subject:

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little list I made? It is little because we have the 3rd pick...Seriously Jim.....you had no presence in the draft thread until a week or so ago.....we have been discussing these players for months, and now you feel you are in a place to tell people what is what about the draft? How much time have you actually spent evaluating to top 10 guys? Going out on a thick limb here and guessing a minimal amount.


we have the 2nd pick. so time spent == better evaluation? disagree

the list looses credibility when Ball is not in the top 4
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PostPosted: Mon May 22, 2017 12:14 pm    Post subject:

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little list I made? It is little because we have the 3rd pick...Seriously Jim.....you had no presence in the draft thread until a week or so ago.....we have been discussing these players for months, and now you feel you are in a place to tell people what is what about the draft? How much time have you actually spent evaluating to top 10 guys? Going out on a thick limb here and guessing a minimal amount.


we have the 2nd pick. so time spent == better evaluation? disagree

the list looses credibility when Ball is not in the top 4


Thought some of y'all that are campaigning for Lonzo would enjoy this analysis by an actual scout and D-1 Analytics specialist that has reviewed every basketball action of this player.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1c2vDypRdI1n7kOZ4lfhN5EOckW05b7IedRm1OS7bK70/edit

Here's the original article he is responding to

http://www.libertyballers.com/2017/5/10/15580618/future-sixers-lonzo-ball-not-a-lead-guard-nba-draft-2017-passing-vision

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PostPosted: Mon May 22, 2017 12:18 pm    Post subject:

epak wrote:
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Watching workouts: Magic, Rob, Luke, Joey & Jesse Buss, Ryan West, Bill Bertka, Brian Shaw. Saw D'Angelo Russell hovering around earlier.


Nice.


Lot of eyes...lot of communication...looks like Magic is doing a lot of the right things as a President...being inclusive...valuing everyone's input...showing visible signs of unity.

Makes the organization look like it really knows what it's doing.

Good look for us.
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PostPosted: Mon May 22, 2017 12:18 pm    Post subject:

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Chase.button07 wrote:
adkindo wrote:


little list I made? It is little because we have the 3rd pick...Seriously Jim.....you had no presence in the draft thread until a week or so ago.....we have been discussing these players for months, and now you feel you are in a place to tell people what is what about the draft? How much time have you actually spent evaluating to top 10 guys? Going out on a thick limb here and guessing a minimal amount.


we have the 2nd pick. so time spent == better evaluation? disagree

the list looses credibility when Ball is not in the top 4


Thought some of y'all that are campaigning for Lonzo would enjoy this analysis by an actual scout and D-1 Analytics specialist that has reviewed every basketball action of this player.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1c2vDypRdI1n7kOZ4lfhN5EOckW05b7IedRm1OS7bK70/edit

Here's the original article he is responding to

http://www.libertyballers.com/2017/5/10/15580618/future-sixers-lonzo-ball-not-a-lead-guard-nba-draft-2017-passing-vision

#FactsShapeNarratives #IfYoureSearchingForTheTruth


i am not campaigning for anybody. like adkindo said, i haven't spent enough time to do it

i just find it funny how a guy who doesn't have Ball in his little list finds all the negative articles
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PostPosted: Mon May 22, 2017 12:23 pm    Post subject:

Chase.button07 wrote:
adkindo wrote:


little list I made? It is little because we have the 3rd pick...Seriously Jim.....you had no presence in the draft thread until a week or so ago.....we have been discussing these players for months, and now you feel you are in a place to tell people what is what about the draft? How much time have you actually spent evaluating to top 10 guys? Going out on a thick limb here and guessing a minimal amount.


we have the 2nd pick. so time spent == better evaluation? disagree

the list looses credibility when Ball is not in the top 4


you are the person who decides NBA draft credibility? So when countless big boards do not have Lonzo as high as you thought, they have no credibility? Do you know the difference between a "big board" and mock draft?

you better call Sports Illustrated because they have him @ 6...

https://www.si.com/nba/2017/04/19/2017-nba-big-board-draft-markelle-fultz-lonzo-ball-deaaron-fox

Fox Sports does not have him at #1 or #2 either

http://www.foxsports.com/nba/gallery/big-board-top-20-nba-draft-prospects-markelle-fultz-lonzo-ball-031317

here is another you will need to let know because they have him @ 6:

http://www.denverstiffs.com/2017/5/19/15661982/nba-draft-stiffs-big-board-4-0-with-upside-consideration

crap, your going to be busy because Sporting News does not have him in the top #3 either

http://www.sportingnews.com/nba/list/nba-draft-2017-mock-draft-combine-results-prospect-rankings-markelle-fultz-lonzo-ball-deaaron-fox/1nu120f7tqsnk1buz8k0ldkb8m/slide/1

the sixth sense dared not to put him in their top #2....

https://thesixersense.com/2017/05/16/philadelphia-76ers-2017-nba-draft-lottery-big-board/

I could list 30 more that have him as #1, #2, or #3....and 30 others that do not have him in their top 3.....but you can start with discrediting those.....

so much for spending 15 minutes on Draft Express and feeling like you got all the information you need
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PostPosted: Mon May 22, 2017 12:27 pm    Post subject:

adkindo wrote:
Chase.button07 wrote:
adkindo wrote:


little list I made? It is little because we have the 3rd pick...Seriously Jim.....you had no presence in the draft thread until a week or so ago.....we have been discussing these players for months, and now you feel you are in a place to tell people what is what about the draft? How much time have you actually spent evaluating to top 10 guys? Going out on a thick limb here and guessing a minimal amount.


we have the 2nd pick. so time spent == better evaluation? disagree

the list looses credibility when Ball is not in the top 4


you are the person who decides NBA draft credibility? So when countless big boards do not have Lonzo as high as you thought, they have no credibility? Do you know the difference between a "big board" and mock draft?

you better call Sports Illustrated because they have him @ 6...

https://www.si.com/nba/2017/04/19/2017-nba-big-board-draft-markelle-fultz-lonzo-ball-deaaron-fox

Fox Sports does not have him at #1 or #2 either

http://www.foxsports.com/nba/gallery/big-board-top-20-nba-draft-prospects-markelle-fultz-lonzo-ball-031317

here is another you will need to let know because they have him @ 6:

http://www.denverstiffs.com/2017/5/19/15661982/nba-draft-stiffs-big-board-4-0-with-upside-consideration

crap, your going to be busy because Sporting News does not have him in the top #3 either

http://www.sportingnews.com/nba/list/nba-draft-2017-mock-draft-combine-results-prospect-rankings-markelle-fultz-lonzo-ball-deaaron-fox/1nu120f7tqsnk1buz8k0ldkb8m/slide/1

the sixth sense dared not to put him in their top #2....

https://thesixersense.com/2017/05/16/philadelphia-76ers-2017-nba-draft-lottery-big-board/

I could list 30 more that have him as #1, #2, or #3....and 30 others that do not have him in their top 3.....but you can start with discrediting those.....

so much for spending 15 minutes on Draft Express and feeling like you got all the information you need


post anything after May 16:Draft Lottery Day. after the world knew we are picking that pick

its funny how you manipulated the dates. you posted SI thats from April 20 by same writer.

Here is their latest from May 17: https://www.si.com/nba/2017/05/17/nba-mock-draft-lottery-results-celtics-lakers-76ers


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starting to get that feeling that we may all be sleeping a little on Dennis Smith Jr. .
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Chase.button07 wrote:
adkindo wrote:
Chase.button07 wrote:
adkindo wrote:


little list I made? It is little because we have the 3rd pick...Seriously Jim.....you had no presence in the draft thread until a week or so ago.....we have been discussing these players for months, and now you feel you are in a place to tell people what is what about the draft? How much time have you actually spent evaluating to top 10 guys? Going out on a thick limb here and guessing a minimal amount.


we have the 2nd pick. so time spent == better evaluation? disagree

the list looses credibility when Ball is not in the top 4


you are the person who decides NBA draft credibility? So when countless big boards do not have Lonzo as high as you thought, they have no credibility? Do you know the difference between a "big board" and mock draft?

you better call Sports Illustrated because they have him @ 6...

https://www.si.com/nba/2017/04/19/2017-nba-big-board-draft-markelle-fultz-lonzo-ball-deaaron-fox

Fox Sports does not have him at #1 or #2 either

http://www.foxsports.com/nba/gallery/big-board-top-20-nba-draft-prospects-markelle-fultz-lonzo-ball-031317

here is another you will need to let know because they have him @ 6:

http://www.denverstiffs.com/2017/5/19/15661982/nba-draft-stiffs-big-board-4-0-with-upside-consideration

crap, your going to be busy because Sporting News does not have him in the top #3 either

http://www.sportingnews.com/nba/list/nba-draft-2017-mock-draft-combine-results-prospect-rankings-markelle-fultz-lonzo-ball-deaaron-fox/1nu120f7tqsnk1buz8k0ldkb8m/slide/1

the sixth sense dared not to put him in their top #2....

https://thesixersense.com/2017/05/16/philadelphia-76ers-2017-nba-draft-lottery-big-board/

I could list 30 more that have him as #1, #2, or #3....and 30 others that do not have him in their top 3.....but you can start with discrediting those.....

so much for spending 15 minutes on Draft Express and feeling like you got all the information you need


post anything after May 16:Draft Lottery Day. after the world knew we are picking that pick


that is called a mock draft....that is why I asked you if you understood the difference....my list is not a mock....those links are the latest Big Boards ranking prospects from those sites....it is simply who they think is BPA.
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PostPosted: Mon May 22, 2017 12:30 pm    Post subject:

So today Brian Windhorst said on the SAS Podcast that the Lakers are sending Vibes that they really like Josh Jackson. Windhorst said that he doesn't know if it is for trade purposes or just to get their fanbase ready for the disappointment of not drafting Ball, but he said the vibes are out there.

If any one cares to listen, it's 12 mins in if the second hour of the SAS podcast.

Is it time to move the Official Josh Jackson thread in LA Lakers Lounge?
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PostPosted: Mon May 22, 2017 12:31 pm    Post subject:

adkindo wrote:
Chase.button07 wrote:
adkindo wrote:
Chase.button07 wrote:
adkindo wrote:


little list I made? It is little because we have the 3rd pick...Seriously Jim.....you had no presence in the draft thread until a week or so ago.....we have been discussing these players for months, and now you feel you are in a place to tell people what is what about the draft? How much time have you actually spent evaluating to top 10 guys? Going out on a thick limb here and guessing a minimal amount.


we have the 2nd pick. so time spent == better evaluation? disagree

the list looses credibility when Ball is not in the top 4


you are the person who decides NBA draft credibility? So when countless big boards do not have Lonzo as high as you thought, they have no credibility? Do you know the difference between a "big board" and mock draft?

you better call Sports Illustrated because they have him @ 6...

https://www.si.com/nba/2017/04/19/2017-nba-big-board-draft-markelle-fultz-lonzo-ball-deaaron-fox

Fox Sports does not have him at #1 or #2 either

http://www.foxsports.com/nba/gallery/big-board-top-20-nba-draft-prospects-markelle-fultz-lonzo-ball-031317

here is another you will need to let know because they have him @ 6:

http://www.denverstiffs.com/2017/5/19/15661982/nba-draft-stiffs-big-board-4-0-with-upside-consideration

crap, your going to be busy because Sporting News does not have him in the top #3 either

http://www.sportingnews.com/nba/list/nba-draft-2017-mock-draft-combine-results-prospect-rankings-markelle-fultz-lonzo-ball-deaaron-fox/1nu120f7tqsnk1buz8k0ldkb8m/slide/1

the sixth sense dared not to put him in their top #2....

https://thesixersense.com/2017/05/16/philadelphia-76ers-2017-nba-draft-lottery-big-board/

I could list 30 more that have him as #1, #2, or #3....and 30 others that do not have him in their top 3.....but you can start with discrediting those.....

so much for spending 15 minutes on Draft Express and feeling like you got all the information you need


post anything after May 16:Draft Lottery Day. after the world knew we are picking that pick


that is called a mock draft....that is why I asked you if you understood the difference....my list is not a mock....those links are the latest Big Boards ranking prospects from those sites....it is simply who they think is BPA.


lol ok. i think you feel the need to post negative articles to justify why he is not in your little list


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PostPosted: Mon May 22, 2017 12:32 pm    Post subject:

AFireInside619 wrote:
So today Brian Windhorst said on the SAS Podcast that the Lakers are sending Vibes that they really like Josh Jackson. Windhorst said that he doesn't know if it is for trade purposes or just to get their fanbase ready for the disappointment of not drafting Ball, but he said the vibes are out there.

If any one cares to listen, it's 12 mins in if the second hour of the SAS podcast.

Is it time to move the Official Josh Jackson thread in LA Lakers Lounge?


no....there will be "vibes" sent out about 8-12 players before this thing is over.....maybe some will be real....most will not....like you said, keep other teams guessing, especially since everyone assumes they know our pick.
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lol ok.


to be clear, I have said I think Ball is the most likely selection by the Lakers @ #2.
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PostPosted: Mon May 22, 2017 12:33 pm    Post subject:

AFireInside619 wrote:
So today Brian Windhorst said on the SAS Podcast that the Lakers are sending Vibes that they really like Josh Jackson. Windhorst said that he doesn't know if it is for trade purposes or just to get their fanbase ready for the disappointment of not drafting Ball, but he said the vibes are out there.

If any one cares to listen, it's 12 mins in if the second hour of the SAS podcast.

Is it time to move the Official Josh Jackson thread in LA Lakers Lounge?


A few days ago, De'Aaron Fox was the guy that was most likely to upset Lonzo Ball as the #2 pick. This is just another writer throwing crap at the wall and hoping it sticks.
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PostPosted: Mon May 22, 2017 12:33 pm    Post subject:

AFireInside619 wrote:
So today Brian Windhorst said on the SAS Podcast that the Lakers are sending Vibes that they really like Josh Jackson. Windhorst said that he doesn't know if it is for trade purposes or just to get their fanbase ready for the disappointment of not drafting Ball, but he said the vibes are out there.

If any one cares to listen, it's 12 mins in if the second hour of the SAS podcast.

Is it time to move the Official Josh Jackson thread in LA Lakers Lounge?


Right cause SAS and Windhorst are great Laker sources. Might as well make Fox and Tatum threads too breh
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adkindo wrote:
AFireInside619 wrote:
So today Brian Windhorst said on the SAS Podcast that the Lakers are sending Vibes that they really like Josh Jackson. Windhorst said that he doesn't know if it is for trade purposes or just to get their fanbase ready for the disappointment of not drafting Ball, but he said the vibes are out there.

If any one cares to listen, it's 12 mins in if the second hour of the SAS podcast.

Is it time to move the Official Josh Jackson thread in LA Lakers Lounge?


no....there will be "vibes" sent out about 8-12 players before this thing is over.....maybe some will be real....most will not....like you said, keep other teams guessing, especially since everyone assumes they know our pick.


Yeah, Woj is saying Ball is too good of a story for the Lakers to pass up. And he knows Rob Pelinka, so that probably the most likely scenario.
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AFireInside619 wrote:
So today Brian Windhorst said on the SAS Podcast that the Lakers are sending Vibes that they really like Josh Jackson. Windhorst said that he doesn't know if it is for trade purposes or just to get their fanbase ready for the disappointment of not drafting Ball, but he said the vibes are out there.

If any one cares to listen, it's 12 mins in if the second hour of the SAS podcast.

Is it time to move the Official Josh Jackson thread in LA Lakers Lounge?


Right cause SAS and Windhorst are great Laker sources. Might as well make Fox and Tatum threads too breh


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bandiger wrote:
AFireInside619 wrote:
So today Brian Windhorst said on the SAS Podcast that the Lakers are sending Vibes that they really like Josh Jackson. Windhorst said that he doesn't know if it is for trade purposes or just to get their fanbase ready for the disappointment of not drafting Ball, but he said the vibes are out there.

If any one cares to listen, it's 12 mins in if the second hour of the SAS podcast.

Is it time to move the Official Josh Jackson thread in LA Lakers Lounge?


Right cause SAS and Windhorst are great Laker sources. Might as well make Fox and Tatum threads too breh


I ain't your breh...


But you are right. They are terrible Lakers sources.
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AFireInside619 wrote:
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AFireInside619 wrote:
So today Brian Windhorst said on the SAS Podcast that the Lakers are sending Vibes that they really like Josh Jackson. Windhorst said that he doesn't know if it is for trade purposes or just to get their fanbase ready for the disappointment of not drafting Ball, but he said the vibes are out there.

If any one cares to listen, it's 12 mins in if the second hour of the SAS podcast.

Is it time to move the Official Josh Jackson thread in LA Lakers Lounge?


no....there will be "vibes" sent out about 8-12 players before this thing is over.....maybe some will be real....most will not....like you said, keep other teams guessing, especially since everyone assumes they know our pick.


Yeah, Woj is saying Ball is too good of a story for the Lakers to pass up. And he knows Rob Pelinka, so that probably the most likely scenario.


I kind of feel like if we feel we know 100% who the pick is, then they did something wrong....even if it is Ball, i think their goal will be to plant seeds of doubt right up to the end. They want Philly to have to scenario plan. That being said, all it takes one of those top 3 or 4 guys besides Ball to go in there and show them exactly what they are looking for to change everything.
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PostPosted: Mon May 22, 2017 12:42 pm    Post subject:

bandiger wrote:
AFireInside619 wrote:
So today Brian Windhorst said on the SAS Podcast that the Lakers are sending Vibes that they really like Josh Jackson. Windhorst said that he doesn't know if it is for trade purposes or just to get their fanbase ready for the disappointment of not drafting Ball, but he said the vibes are out there.

If any one cares to listen, it's 12 mins in if the second hour of the SAS podcast.

Is it time to move the Official Josh Jackson thread in LA Lakers Lounge?


Right cause SAS and Windhorst are great Laker sources. Might as well make Fox and Tatum threads too breh


Correct... But remember, we have different management leaking info than past years. I normally wouldn't think twice about Windy's reporting on LAL, but things are different now.
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AFireInside619 wrote:
So today Brian Windhorst said on the SAS Podcast that the Lakers are sending Vibes that they really like Josh Jackson. Windhorst said that he doesn't know if it is for trade purposes or just to get their fanbase ready for the disappointment of not drafting Ball, but he said the vibes are out there.

If any one cares to listen, it's 12 mins in if the second hour of the SAS podcast.

Is it time to move the Official Josh Jackson thread in LA Lakers Lounge?


Right cause SAS and Windhorst are great Laker sources. Might as well make Fox and Tatum threads too breh


Correct... But remember, we have different management leaking info than past years. I normally wouldn't think twice about Windy's reporting on LAL, but things are different now.


I have grown to respect him over the past year.
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adkindo wrote:
starting to get that feeling that we may all be sleeping a little on Dennis Smith Jr. .


He's a top 3 talent.

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